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Old 11-30-2021, 04:19 PM   #481
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I was all set to order it last night from Kino. After reading the last few pages, good thing I didn't. Hopefully, Arrow releases their own 4K UHD.
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I will learn more on it. I've self taught myself over the last 2 or three years about TV's and picture quality and such. I'm just not that deep in to it to worry about "compression".
We’re showing you that you can get something better for cheaper but you do you I guess .
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Old 11-30-2021, 04:27 PM   #483
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We’re showing you that you can get something better for cheaper but you do you I guess .
I have the Scream! Factory release already.
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Old 11-30-2021, 04:35 PM   #484
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We’re showing you that you can get something better for cheaper but you do you I guess .
So you're telling me watching Snatchers in DV is not a significant upgrade from the Blu Ray?
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Old 11-30-2021, 04:56 PM   #485
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I have the Scream! Factory release already.
You’d probably be good with the Shout version. It has a few compression issues but nowhere near as bad as the 4K disc though. It boosts the contrast and colors but clips highlight detail in some areas but brings out more detail in others. It’s weird.

You can make do with the Shout if you really don’t notice any compression problems. Or get the MGM one (which seems to be the best version right now) for like 6 bucks:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Invas...Blu-ray/14064/

Or this one:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Invas...Blu-ray/27573/

Those two are the same disc just different packaging.

I’d recommend sticking with the Shout one and waiting for someone else to license the 4K restoration and release a better 4K disc. It’s just a matter of time. You’ll probably see an announcement of one in the international market in the next few months or so.
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Old 11-30-2021, 05:00 PM   #486
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So you're telling me watching Snatchers in DV is not a significant upgrade from the Blu Ray?
I’d have to check. I only watched it in HDR10 because that’s the 4K standard. DV is optional and not everyone can play DV. There’s also the matter of potentially buying a display in the future (like a projector or Samsung TV) that won’t support DV. Hence why I’m focusing more on the HDR10 layer.

I can try checking tonight. But DV isn’t the standard, HDR10 is, so it shouldn’t be what a disc is judged by.
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Old 11-30-2021, 05:58 PM   #487
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I’d have to check. I only watched it in HDR10 because that’s the 4K standard. DV is optional and not everyone can play DV. There’s also the matter of potentially buying a display in the future (like a projector or Samsung TV) that won’t support DV. Hence why I’m focusing more on the HDR10 layer.

I can try checking tonight. But DV isn’t the standard, HDR10 is, so it shouldn’t be what a disc is judged by.
You mean you have the capabilty to watch it in DV - widely acknowledged to be superior to HDR10 in all circumstances - but you choose not to? Because one day you might NOT be able to watch it in DV?
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Old 11-30-2021, 06:11 PM   #488
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You mean you have the capabilty to watch it in DV - widely acknowledged to be superior to HDR10 in all circumstances - but you choose not to? Because one day you might NOT be able to watch it in DV?
This 100%. How bewildering! lol I guess if you were a reviewer I could see doing this, but otherwise it makes no sense.
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You mean you have the capabilty to watch it in DV - widely acknowledged to be superior to HDR10 in all circumstances - but you choose not to? Because one day you might NOT be able to watch it in DV?
From what I'm reading the movie looks fine in Dolby Vision, which is how I watch movies anyhow, so...still purchasing.
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I’d have to check. I only watched it in HDR10 because that’s the 4K standard. DV is optional and not everyone can play DV. There’s also the matter of potentially buying a display in the future (like a projector or Samsung TV) that won’t support DV. Hence why I’m focusing more on the HDR10 layer.

I can try checking tonight. But DV isn’t the standard, HDR10 is, so it shouldn’t be what a disc is judged by.
I can see that sentiment regarding DV. I choose to not use it because I will never own a television other than Samsung
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You mean you have the capabilty to watch it in DV - widely acknowledged to be superior to HDR10 in all circumstances - but you choose not to? Because one day you might NOT be able to watch it in DV?
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This 100%. How bewildering! lol I guess if you were a reviewer I could see doing this, but otherwise it makes no sense.
Yes. Again, HDR10 is the standard (not DV), not everyone can play DV (and I am basically reviewing the disc), and I’m also planning to get a projector in the future…

So I’m not just thinking of myself, nor what I currently have, but also of others and the future.

The fact HDR10 is the standard, and not DV, is reason alone to evaluate the disc in HDR10 and not DV. You guys seem very inclined to just assume the disc is fine for some reason when it’s definitely not good and has a bunch of compression errors lol.

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Old 11-30-2021, 06:38 PM   #492
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From what I'm reading the movie looks fine in Dolby Vision, which is how I watch movies anyhow, so...still purchasing.
Others also said it looked fine in HDR10 when it very clearly doesn’t. So I’d wait. But you do you. It’s interesting you can’t see compression artifacts though, but you can see the jump in quality from standard blu-ray to 4K?
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But DV isn’t the standard, HDR10 is, so it shouldn’t be what a disc is judged by.
Dolby Vision is the gold standard !
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Dolby Vision is the gold standard !
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Old 11-30-2021, 07:08 PM   #495
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I can see that sentiment regarding DV. I choose to not use it because I will never own a television other than Samsung
Sold my Samsung off after seeing DV vs HDR10 no comparison .
Since Samsung is to cheap to spring for DV I won't ever be buying another TV from them .
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Old 11-30-2021, 07:27 PM   #496
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Yea, I tried to read up on this compression business and, I'm sorry, it's too much numbers and data and jargon I just don't understand for me to comprehend or really care. Really just seems to depend on what set-up you have as to how some films look. That's how I see it.
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Old 11-30-2021, 07:31 PM   #497
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I agree with the HDR10 people completely!

Also, when viewing the disc on my 24" 1080p SDR television, I notice the film lacks fine grain detail and has very low contrast.
Really poor transfer and authoring, all together.

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Sold my Samsung off after seeing DV vs HDR10 no comparison .
Since Samsung is to cheap to spring for DV I won't ever be buying another TV from them .
When I switched to 4K last year, I made sure both my TV and player could do DV.
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Old 11-30-2021, 07:36 PM   #499
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When I switched to 4K last year, I made sure both my TV and player could do DV.
Same. Thankfully, I did a bit of research before buying a TV and player to get in to 4k.
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Just a PSA:

There are work-arounds to getting at least getting a lldv signal to a projector or Samsung TV.

Recently did this on my Epson projector with good results and am very happy being able to avoid these poor hdr10 encodes that keep creeping up without sacrificing projection.
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