The Official Energy Speakers Thread

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Clippins

I'm still trying to decide on what kind of surrounds to pair with the CF-70's. I know that it's just surrounds and they won't have as much of an impact as the mains and center, but I'd still like to know they were there and not drowned out by the fronts. It would seem like the cr10s would have a hard time being paired with the CF-70s due to their size. They seem dwarfed. At the same price, would the CB20s or even CB10s be a better surround match with the CF-70s?

dont worry about the CR10s, they will work just fine with the CF-70s, Energy even recommends them as surrounds in their HT systems package.
http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en...-5-1-overview/

I do like the design of the older surrounds, the CR-100s, better, however I wouldn't doubt that Energy spent a good amount of time designing their new surrounds to make a bad product. Don't worry, I would give Energy every benefit of the doubt on the CR-10s, and theyd be perfect to crossover at 80hz.

Now, I use bookshelfs in my place because i cannot use bi/di-poles. I used to have the C-100s(CB-10s) and for surrounds, they were excellent, and even when i tested them as mains, they were very good. I don't think that there is enough info in surrounds to need the deep bass of the CB-20s, however, if you want to splurge and get them, theyd be fantastic.

Right now I use a pair of Mission M30i's and a C-50 for surrounds in my 2/3.1 setup. I love the system as it is now, and even the C-50 holds its own on the heavy surround sound tracks.(you can see it in my gallery, the last Energy speaker I have)

I hope I helped, But Id go CR-10s if you can first and wall mount them, then I would go CB-10s next if you have a built-in bookshelf wall like I have.

[aces high]

Originally Posted by callas01

dont worry about the CR10s, they will work just fine with the CF-70s, Energy even recommends them as surrounds in their HT systems package.
http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en...-5-1-overview/

I do like the design of the older surrounds, the CR-100s, better, however I wouldn't doubt that Energy spent a good amount of time designing their new surrounds to make a bad product. Don't worry, I would give Energy every benefit of the doubt on the CR-10s, and theyd be perfect to crossover at 80hz.

Now, I use bookshelfs in my place because i cannot use bi/di-poles. I used to have the C-100s(CB-10s) and for surrounds, they were excellent, and even when i tested them as mains, they were very good. I don't think that there is enough info in surrounds to need the deep bass of the CB-20s, however, if you want to splurge and get them, theyd be fantastic.

Right now I use a pair of Mission M30i's and a C-50 for surrounds in my 2/3.1 setup. I love the system as it is now, and even the C-50 holds its own on the heavy surround sound tracks.(you can see it in my gallery, the last Energy speaker I have)

I hope I helped, But Id go CR-10s if you can first and wall mount them, then I would go CB-10s next if you have a built-in bookshelf wall like I have.

Have you ever tried using your last remaining Energy as a center?

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Clippins

Looks nice! How do you like 800's as surrounds with the energy's as your mains? It also looks like you have front heights. Are those 800's as well and if so how so you like the heights? I've thought about trying that out once I get everything together.

you don't have to use Energy surrounds, you can mix and match surrounds. Like I said in the post above, I have Dynaudio fronts, Mission surrounds and a single Energy back surround. I have heard the Pro 800s, they are decent. I can say that I liked my C-100s more then my brothers Pro 800s, for the $$ Id stick with Energy.

I will eventually buy Dynaudio DM 2/6s as surrounds, I like to stick with the same brand of speakers cause Im particular that way. The DM 2/6s play close enough to my Excites that Im sure I wouldn't notice the difference. And it would save me a lot of $$ not having to buy the Excite X12s.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by aces high

Have you ever tried using your last remaining Energy as a center?

No I have not, guess what Im gonna do RIGHT NOW!!

[aces high]

Originally Posted by callas01

No I have not, guess what Im gonna do RIGHT NOW!!

Hopefully it turns out better than my experiment of using an Atom Monitor as a center, let us know how it sounds.

[Clippins]

Originally Posted by callas01

dont worry about the CR10s, they will work just fine with the CF-70s, Energy even recommends them as surrounds in their HT systems package.
http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en...-5-1-overview/

I do like the design of the older surrounds, the CR-100s, better, however I wouldn't doubt that Energy spent a good amount of time designing their new surrounds to make a bad product. Don't worry, I would give Energy every benefit of the doubt on the CR-10s, and theyd be perfect to crossover at 80hz.

Now, I use bookshelfs in my place because i cannot use bi/di-poles. I used to have the C-100s(CB-10s) and for surrounds, they were excellent, and even when i tested them as mains, they were very good. I don't think that there is enough info in surrounds to need the deep bass of the CB-20s, however, if you want to splurge and get them, theyd be fantastic.

Right now I use a pair of Mission M30i's and a C-50 for surrounds in my 2/3.1 setup. I love the system as it is now, and even the C-50 holds its own on the heavy surround sound tracks.(you can see it in my gallery, the last Energy speaker I have)

I hope I helped, But Id go CR-10s if you can first and wall mount them, then I would go CB-10s next if you have a built-in bookshelf wall like I have.

The CR-10's and the CB-20s are the same price, but you are right. I highly doubt that 6.5 woofer on the CB-20 would be necessary in a surround. The CR-10s just seem so small, but I guess that's a good thing. I could save a little and get the CB10s though. Actually, what I need is to find some more Energy speaker promos like a couple weeks back. Everything seems to be back at full price now. I needs some Energy deals

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by aces high

Hopefully it turns out better than my experiment of using an Atom Monitor as a center, let us know how it sounds.

I think he's better off using his phantom center .

[callas01]

Originally Posted by aces high

Hopefully it turns out better than my experiment of using an Atom Monitor as a center, let us know how it sounds.

dialog is a little veiled in comparison, Off Axis sitting is better in that dialog comes from the center of the TV, Im watching some shitty movie called letters from juliet.... everything coming from the center speakers. OK, onto MTV movie awards... lets see when something comes in as 2-channel it sounds so much more clear. IDK, well see how this works... I don't think I can keep this setup this way... LOL. The Dyns make the center sound bad. I guess thats what happens when your mains cost nearly 7 times the cost of the center speaker.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

I think he's better off using his phantom center .

yeah, Ill probably change it tomorrow.....

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

dialog is a little veiled in comparison, Off Axis sitting is better in that dialog comes from the center of the TV, Im watching some shitty movie called letters from juliet.... everything coming from the center speakers. OK, onto MTV movie awards... lets see when something comes in as 2-channel it sounds so much more clear. IDK, well see how this works... I don't think I can keep this setup this way... LOL. The Dyns make the center sound bad. I guess thats what happens when your mains cost nearly 7 times the cost of the center speaker.

lol even my c-100 sounded bad with the Rainmakers it was not the best match I can tell you that much The Phamtom center sonded much better I have to say . I could not wait too long to get myself another center so I baught the Rainmaker and glad I did, Now you can wait 2 weeks using phantom center I guess

[aces high]

Originally Posted by callas01

dialog is a little veiled in comparison, Off Axis sitting is better in that dialog comes from the center of the TV, Im watching some shitty movie called letters from juliet.... everything coming from the center speakers. OK, onto MTV movie awards... lets see when something comes in as 2-channel it sounds so much more clear. IDK, well see how this works... I don't think I can keep this setup this way... LOL. The Dyns make the center sound bad. I guess thats what happens when your mains cost nearly 7 times the cost of the center speaker.

So in other words it turned out the same for you as it did for me, not something you would want as a long term setup. I only used it like that for one movie.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

lol even my c-100 sounded bad with the Rainmakers it was not the best match I can tell you that much The Phamtom center sonded much better I have to say . I could not wait too long to get myself another center so I baught the Rainmaker and glad I did, Now you can wait 2 weeks using phantom center I guess

Originally Posted by aces high

So in other words it turned out the same for you as it did for me, not something you would want as a long term setup. I only used it like that for one movie.

Yeah, can say that its not that great, sounds canned. And distant, but that may be the awards and the effect of the theater they are in. OK, The Game, it still sounds a little canned, but not as bad. Veiled tho.

I still like and promote Energy, but they don't hold up to the Dyns.

[cxr369]

Originally Posted by Clippins

Looks nice! How do you like 800's as surrounds with the energy's as your mains? It also looks like you have front heights. Are those 800's as well and if so how so you like the heights? I've thought about trying that out once I get everything together.

The 800's are great, they have a great design and the performance is awesome. I highly recommend the front heights. I was watching king kong and there is a scene where bugs are crawling above her head and you can hear it clear on the ceiling. I had one issue, which was the front heights would not play at the same as the surround backs. I was able to fix this by switching the surround backs to the surround terminals on the receiver and the auto calibrating it. They all play at the same time and now it's insane.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

Yeah, can say that its not that great, sounds canned. And distant, but that may be the awards and the effect of the theater they are in. OK, The Game, it still sounds a little canned, but not as bad. Veiled tho.

I still like and promote Energy, but they don't hold up to the Dyns.

Only 12 days of wait now I hope you find a way to easily integrate that X-22 to the TV stand.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

Only 12 days of wait now I hope you find a way to easily integrate that X-22 to the TV stand.

youre killing me.... The nice thing is that the X22 comes with a stand that angles up the center channel to the ears of the listener. Should be easy to integrate, I just need to get a barrier for the TV stand.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

youre killing me.... The nice thing is that the X22 comes with a stand that angles up the center channel to the ears of the listener. Should be easy to integrate, I just need to get a barrier for the TV stand.

yeah it's unfortunate what happened to your TT, you don't want your center speaker to suffer either but what kind of barrier do you have in mind?

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

yeah it's unfortunate what happened to your TT, you don't want your center speaker to suffer either but what kind of barrier do you have in mind?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Regalo-4-i...ayard/14894742

this is what I want to buy.

fixing the TT will cost $47....geez!

[-DLS-]

So after almost 2 weeks of owning the V-6.3's and letting them play for 8-10 hours /day I think I'm close enough or passed the 100 hour recommended break-in period. I think beacause I have speakers to directly compare them to I can say that there was not much difference if any from when I first hooked them up. I'm starting to believe more that break-in means just your ears getting used to the sound. If I didn't have the Paradigms beside them I might have believed they sounded different but the differences remained the same. I thought my Paradigms sounded better after a couple of weeks but I also played with the placement for the first couple of weeks til I got it sounding right.

I still think these are good speakers but even at the sale price of $2500 there are other speakers that I like better for the same price or even less. The main differencees between these and my Studio's is in the midrange which is very easy to tell with vocals but not so much with instruments. The bass stayed nice and clean but after re-positioning the 100's they sounded deeper with more chest thump than the 6.3's when playing old school rap music like Cypress Hill and NWA. The 6.3'd still had a tigher bass though. B-Real from Cypress Hill on the Black Sunday was pretty hard to listen to and I usually like to turn it up when I play that kind of music. They are still brighter sounding than the Studios but at times depending on what's playing sound more neutral. The Paradigms are the opposite more being neutral but at times can sound bright depending on the recording as well. I played all kinds of music with them and at times liked the 6.3's better but overall I think the Paradigms are the better speaker for me mostly because of the better - more natural sounding midrange to my ears.

I still have these for a couple of more weeks and just hooked them back up to the XPA-3 So I'll listen to them the rest of the time without the 100's hooked up and try to move them around and play some more with toe-in and placement.

[cxr369]

I have the CF 70's paired with the Definitive Pro 800 as surrounds and the Energy CC10 as the center channel. I also have it hooked up to a Pioneer Elite VSX 33 and a Klipsch SW 450 sub.

The best part was putting it all together now I don't know what to do or what else to get. I did the Auto calibration and it sounds great but I'm thinking it can sound a little better. Don't know what else to do though.

[Reference_head]

Originally Posted by cxr369

I have the CF 70's paired with the Definitive Pro 800 as surrounds and the Energy CC10 as the center channel. I also have it hooked up to a Pioneer Elite VSX 33 and a Klipsch SW 450 sub.

The best part was putting it all together now I don't know what to do or what else to get. I did the Auto calibration and it sounds great but I'm thinking it can sound a little better. Don't know what else to do though.

Adding a second sub will in most cases make a huge improvement.