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Old 06-19-2015, 02:38 PM   #5061
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Since all the criterions have clearly been restocked on amazon.ca, I decided to give them a call about my cancelled items from the infamous 'criterion price glitch'. As many know, Quebec has very strict laws on these facts, giving consumers, such as myself, the right to items ordered even in the instance of a price error.

I spoke to a great CS rep and she remade my order and readjusted the prices back down to where they were when I ordered initially (during the price error). Extremely happy with the service this time around.

Just thought I would mention this for other Quebec residents who tried to take advantage of this deal.

Either I got super lucky with a great CSR, or they are respecting the law.

Good luck to any of you who will attempt to get orders reinstated!
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Old 06-19-2015, 04:45 PM   #5062
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Since all the criterions have clearly been restocked on amazon.ca, I decided to give them a call about my cancelled items from the infamous 'criterion price glitch'. As many know, Quebec has very strict laws on these facts, giving consumers, such as myself, the right to items ordered even in the instance of a price error.

I spoke to a great CS rep and she remade my order and readjusted the prices back down to where they were when I ordered initially (during the price error). Extremely happy with the service this time around.

Just thought I would mention this for other Quebec residents who tried to take advantage of this deal.

Either I got super lucky with a great CSR, or they are respecting the law.

Good luck to any of you who will attempt to get orders reinstated!
I'll try that, but if it doesn't work I'll still order a few for the current sale prices.
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Old 06-19-2015, 05:55 PM   #5063
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Since all the criterions have clearly been restocked on amazon.ca, I decided to give them a call about my cancelled items from the infamous 'criterion price glitch'. As many know, Quebec has very strict laws on these facts, giving consumers, such as myself, the right to items ordered even in the instance of a price error.

I spoke to a great CS rep and she remade my order and readjusted the prices back down to where they were when I ordered initially (during the price error). Extremely happy with the service this time around.

Just thought I would mention this for other Quebec residents who tried to take advantage of this deal.

Either I got super lucky with a great CSR, or they are respecting the law.

Good luck to any of you who will attempt to get orders reinstated!
I'm not in Quebec but going to give this a shot anyways!
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:11 PM   #5064
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I'm not in Quebec but going to give this a shot anyways!
They issued me a $10 credit. I didn't push too hard, but something is better than nothing.
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Old 06-19-2015, 08:48 PM   #5065
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Almost all have been cheaper on amazon ca pre-glitch, that is to before the price glitch meaning I am not counting the error, in other words sans-pricing error, etc, etc, etc.
Still, I ordered 7 Crits, some have been on my wish list for ages, some are titles that are "educational, film-history-wise" that I'm almost ashamed I've never seen...all of them are within a buck (+/-) of their previous all-time low on .ca (sans errors). Cheaper than at HMV who sell them at MSRP. I'm still waffling on On the Waterfront, I don't think I've ever seen that either (not a Brando fan, but...).

None of the Crits that .ca charges outrageous prices for, way more than MSRP, were on sale. Wish they'd drastically correct those prices down to MSRP, and then put those titles on sale. I have no idea where they got their MSRPs for those particular titles, they were wrong way before release date (why I didn't pre-order) and have continued that way, often getting worse. Somebody re-checked the sale titles' prices, now they should go and check all the rest. Might sell a few more of these titles, I think they were originally mistakenly priced...(again, HMV sells these too at MSRP).

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Old 06-20-2015, 12:10 AM   #5066
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I spoke to a great CS rep and she remade my order and readjusted the prices back down to where they were when I ordered initially (during the price error). Extremely happy with the service this time around.
That's amazing! How did you talk to her about it?
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Old 06-20-2015, 12:44 AM   #5067
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Still, I ordered 7 Crits, some have been on my wish list for ages, some are titles that are "educational, film-history-wise" that I'm almost ashamed I've never seen...all of them are within a buck (+/-) of their previous all-time low on .ca (sans errors).
All?? No, just because it is amazon does not make it so, many yes but far from all, here is just a sample:
Eating Raoul Current Price:$42.49 Lowest Price:$25.99
Robinson Crusoe on Mars Current Price:$42.49 Lowest Price:$30.50
Bigger Than Life Current Price:$42.99 Lowest Price:$33.82
Life and Death of Colonel Blimp Current Price:$36.99 Lowest Price:$27.99
Paths of Glory Current Price: $38.90 Lowest Price:$25.99
America Lost and Found: The BBS Story Current Price:$103.93 Lowest Price:$81.49

Wrong on 'within a buck' of the ones on sale as well as this sample shows:

Cul-de-Sac Current Price:$32.88 Lowest Price:$30.13
The Phantom Carriage Current Price:$33.23 Lowest Price:$29.88
Rosemary's Baby Current Price:$28.49 Lowest Price:$25.99
Fantastic Mr. Fox Current Price:$28.99 Lowest Price:$25.99

Within $2 to $3 above lowest would be more accurate for most on sale.

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Cheaper than at HMV who sell them at MSRP.
You write as if you have not been in Hmv in years. The MSRP for most Criterion is $44 and the typical Hmv price is $35 and there are been lukewarm sales at $29.99 plus the newer Criterion are priced below $30. And no, the US MSRP does not count, this is Canada.
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Old 06-20-2015, 02:11 AM   #5068
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I ordered 4 Criterions from Amazon.ca last night since the prices are down to a semi-respectable price. $28ish is still an expensive movie but it's a hell of a lot better than than $35-$40. I'd never buy one at those prices.

With these 4 titles I ordered and Fantastic Mr Fox with I managed to still get at the incorrect glitch price I'll have a nice 5 movie start to my Criterion collection. I don't plan on getting many more though. I think most of the Criterion movies are much more "artsy" which aren't really my thing. I could see myself grabbing another 3-5 titles and that would be about it. If I like Wes Anderson's Fantastic Mr Fox and The Life Aquatic I may grab some of his other movies on Criterion along with a few other titles.
Based on your film collection, I would highly recommend you pick-up The Vanishing. http://www.criterion.com/films/677-the-vanishing
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Old 06-20-2015, 02:46 AM   #5069
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That's amazing! How did you talk to her about it?
I simply stated what had happened. Said that when I called initially they had told me it was not possible due to the items not being available anymore from amazon.ca. Citing the Quebec law and the fact that they were all clearly available, there was no problem whatsoever getting it done.

...Hope this somewhat helps... lol

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Old 06-20-2015, 05:39 AM   #5070
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I wouldn't call "The Vanishing" artsy, but it definitely wouldn't be everybody's cup of tea. There was a Hollywood remake under the same name with the same director as the original (starring Kiefer Sutherland, Jeff Bridges, and Sandra Bullock), but it follows the more stereotypical thriller movie tropes. The original is more of a character study than a thriller. Although the ending is certainly very chilling.

My personal favourite in the Criterion Collection is "Nashville" - definitely grab that one if you can find it for a good price. It really laid the ground work for large ensemble films like "Boogie Nights" and "Magnolia" and is quite an easy watch. Very entertaining film.

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Old 06-20-2015, 06:12 PM   #5071
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All?? ...etc. etc.
By "all", if you take it in the context I wrote it, I was speaking of all the ones I ordered. Obviously I wouldn't have mentioned this or bought these otherwise, I know how much they go for at different places, and I don't look at ones I don't care about.

I am only speaking of the local HMVs, the ones I've been to e.g. "seen". As you keep reminding us, they all seem to sometimes have different prices. The local ones sell "all" the titles that I got and have looked at at MSRP. I have the price list, but it's not complete (some OOP?, some spine numbers don't exist?), and some newest ones not on it. But they are "sticker happy" at HMV and who knows, managers seem to have some sway re prices, but I asked at two local stores and Crit prices are firmly "non-negotiable". They answered that in a way that I assume they get asked it a lot re Crits...

One thing that's a bit different is the local HMVs have some of the Crits in the original digipack (cardboard) packaging. For those collectors who care about having original versions. For instance, the last WA Crit I wanted (Bottle Rocket) and that I just got from "the sale" came in that unique clear Crit BD case, the type without a BR logo. A local HMV still has Bottle Rocket in this original cardboard packaging, $30.

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Old 06-20-2015, 06:31 PM   #5072
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I didn't really mean to refer to The Vanishing as "artsy" but a lot of Criterion titles more so in general. I'm a much more mainstream type so the vast majority of Criterion release wouldn't be for me. I am very glad though that this stuff does exist and that Criterion does a good job of making stuff that I would call "niche" available in a top quality package. I know there are a lot of people that are pretty hardcore into the Criterion titles. Almost all of it though to me isn't worth the gamble at the going prices for Criterions. They are pretty pricey! A hardcore Criterion and Steelbook addiction would be the worst!! Lol
The Vanishing was one of the titles I considered. It sounds like a good film. I had never heard of it until I first read the review when the Crit disc came out, so yeah, Criterion (and others) help make us aware of these films. I recommend the quality of Arrow too, sometimes better than Crit (who are not perfect...they don't claim to be, but the way some who should know better talk about them, including some review sites...).

If you have a region-free player, you can get many of the titles (non-Crit) in Region B for much cheaper. Sometimes they're better transfers, but with no or less or lower-quality extras, because Crit often compresses the film more to fit their extras on the (one) disc, or drops an audio track (e.g. only original mono, when "B" has the derived 5.1 lossless too). Almost always they are from the same master scan though. Crit does sometimes do some minor additional cleanup, but generally speaking they don't HD-scan the "unrestored" crap so it's not a night and day difference.

Sometimes the Reg. B transfers are from newer and better scans, but those are what you may call more "artsy" films. I'm not into artsy films either, but I just cannot stand to watch one more superhero or franchise reboot film with more and more CGI and less and less story/substance/acting. Too much copycatting and remakes. You know, sometimes the originals are better, just not as flashy.

Since you mentioned WA films, you really must get the Rushmore Crit, it is a really huge improvement over their original DVD, possibly one of the most impressive Crits (if you know the film). Especially the sound/music, I've never heard such a drastic improvement in audio going from a DVD to a BD before. The Life Aquatic is IMO also a great Crit, but it's got to be the least popular WA film [edit: or maybe TDL is, I like that one too]...this is a really nice BD, I actually quite like this film among the WA canon, and this kills the already-decent Crit DVD.

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Old 06-20-2015, 06:57 PM   #5073
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Got the Star Trek set today, not all had slips (as expected). ...more...
I got mine yesterday, only S2 had a slip. Looks fine, I haven't opened it yet. As we said before, not complaining for the price.

You can see .ca has links to two complete (NA) TOS sets. The items we were sent are different-looking than the ones our order links point to. The one I got has a Walmart sticker on it. If only WM had such deals in their own stores (here)...[edit: this must be from a Canadian Walmart after all, it's bilingual packaging]

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Old 06-22-2015, 10:45 AM   #5074
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Might be off topic a little but would appreciate if anyone who gotten The Cat Returns (Blu-ray) from Amazon.ca can enlighten me whether it comes with a slipcover or not. It is the only one on my shelf now that is without a slip and it is an eyesore. Thanks in advance!
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Old 06-22-2015, 12:30 PM   #5075
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Since all the criterions have clearly been restocked on amazon.ca, I decided to give them a call about my cancelled items from the infamous 'criterion price glitch'. As many know, Quebec has very strict laws on these facts, giving consumers, such as myself, the right to items ordered even in the instance of a price error.

I spoke to a great CS rep and she remade my order and readjusted the prices back down to where they were when I ordered initially (during the price error). Extremely happy with the service this time around.

Just thought I would mention this for other Quebec residents who tried to take advantage of this deal.

Either I got super lucky with a great CSR, or they are respecting the law.

Good luck to any of you who will attempt to get orders reinstated!
Perhaps you can point me to the Quebec law that covers this case that simply buying From a Quebec IP address means the law extends to companies outside of Quebec? I mean if you drove to Toronto to buy something, you wouldn't get this law just because you happen to live in Quebec.
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Old 06-22-2015, 12:37 PM   #5076
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Might be off topic a little but would appreciate if anyone who gotten The Cat Returns (Blu-ray) from Amazon.ca can enlighten me whether it comes with a slipcover or not. It is the only one on my shelf now that is without a slip and it is an eyesore. Thanks in advance!
I got mine without a slipcase. And yes, it is an eyesore. It's an ongoing debate going over on this thread.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...259386&page=20

I know some people say it's just a cardboard but once you have all 15 titles with slips, it doesn't look good for my OCD self.

The slipcase does exist but rare to find. I've been at Walmart and Best Buy and to no avail. Kind of stupid Disney did this for their last Ghibli title. I just ordered a copy via DMC. I will wait and see. If there is none that comes with it, at least I could call them and ask. I believe people here have donet that before.

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Old 06-22-2015, 01:22 PM   #5077
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Perhaps you can point me to the Quebec law that covers this case that simply buying From a Quebec IP address means the law extends to companies outside of Quebec? I mean if you drove to Toronto to buy something, you wouldn't get this law just because you happen to live in Quebec.
If a seller is selling inside of a province/state/country, whether it be at a physical location or a virtual one, it must abide by the laws that govern that particular land. It seems like a pretty logical and straight forward concept... don't know where your concern is really. If I go to Toronto and buy something there, well the store is not located in Quebec, so no it wouldn't have to abide by Quebec law. it would, however, have to abide by any law that is prevalent in Ontario. It is the same for virtual retailers, if they allow products to be sold in certain regions, it is because they abide by the regulations of that region.

You can see amazon.ca's specific policy about this under their Conditions of Use;

For Quebec consumers: These Conditions of Use and any dispute of any sort that might arise between you and Amazon.ca shall be governed by the laws of the Province of Quebec, without reference to its conflict of laws provisions, and the laws of Canada applicable therein, and any disputes will be submitted to the courts of competent jurisdiction of the District of Montreal (Quebec).

Either way, very happy that there is someone out there looking out for the multi-million(billion?) dollar corporations... us little guys are definitely out to get them....
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If a seller is selling inside of a province/state/country, whether it be at a physical location or a virtual one, it must abide by the laws that govern that particular land. It seems like a pretty logical and straight forward concept... don't know where your concern is really. If I go to Toronto and buy something there, well the store is not located in Quebec, so no it wouldn't have to abide by Quebec law. it would, however, have to abide by any law that is prevalent in Ontario. It is the same for virtual retailers, if they allow products to be sold in certain regions, it is because they abide by the regulations of that region.

You can see amazon.ca's specific policy about this under their Conditions of Use;

For Quebec consumers: These Conditions of Use and any dispute of any sort that might arise between you and Amazon.ca shall be governed by the laws of the Province of Quebec, without reference to its conflict of laws provisions, and the laws of Canada applicable therein, and any disputes will be submitted to the courts of competent jurisdiction of the District of Montreal (Quebec).

Either way, very happy that there is someone out there looking out for the multi-million(billion?) dollar corporations... us little guys are definitely out to get them....
Don't know what the point of the last paragraph was considering the irony of it if you think about it.
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Don't know what the point of the last paragraph was considering the irony of it if you think about it.
I don't see the irony seeing as how I quite clearly demonstrated how I was not out to get them, simply holding them to the legal standards set out by the province and agrred to by themselves.

I was simply making the point that with all their high paid lawyers and multi millionaire shareholders, it's good to know everyday people are still looking out for them.
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Since all the criterions have clearly been restocked on amazon.ca, I decided to give them a call about my cancelled items from the infamous 'criterion price glitch'. As many know, Quebec has very strict laws on these facts, giving consumers, such as myself, the right to items ordered even in the instance of a price error.

I spoke to a great CS rep and she remade my order and readjusted the prices back down to where they were when I ordered initially (during the price error). Extremely happy with the service this time around.

Just thought I would mention this for other Quebec residents who tried to take advantage of this deal.

Either I got super lucky with a great CSR, or they are respecting the law.

Good luck to any of you who will attempt to get orders reinstated!

Lucky bastard...
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