Halloween (2018)

[borgmatrix]

Originally Posted by postmodel

Sure, it could've been written differently, but with what was given to us it does make sense.

I think that's ultimately the point most of us would stress. Yeah, things needed to get set in motion, but in a more organic way and with the focus in the right place.

[omenboy]

Originally Posted by jess1581

Apparently according to this movie, Michael needed alot of help being Michael Myers... i mean he is up there in age afterall.

I don't want to spoil anything, but I did manage to find a secret production still from the upcoming sequel:

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by omenboy

I don't want to spoil anything, but I did manage to find a secret production still from the upcoming sequel:

Make sure it's an obsessive and crazy walking stick.

[myway]

I think all of the stuff with Sartain, and the "convenient" or "contrived" plot machinations were tied into a major theme in the movie; fate. Not only was it a great parallel to the original film, but the scene where Laurie's granddaughter was in class learning about fate worked to foreshadow and underscore the fact that it was Laurie's fate to encounter MM again. For that reason, I preferred the plot as is instead of (like the RZ movies, which I like for other reasons), MM just "being awesome" as someone said earlier and breaking out.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by myway

I think all of the stuff with Sartain, and the "convenient" or "contrived" plot machinations were tied into a major theme in the movie; fate. Not only was it a great parallel to the original film, but the scene where Laurie's granddaughter was in class learning about fate worked to foreshadow and underscore the fact that it was Laurie's fate to encounter MM again. For that reason, I preferred the plot as is instead of (like the RZ movies, which I like for other reasons), MM just "being awesome" as someone said earlier and breaking out.

Ok, that scene from Halloween 78 with Laurie in class was also a way of shaping what Michael was... the teacher was referring to fate as a natural element. Michael was evil personified, an unstoppable force of nature like the perfect storm or tornado... Tornados don't need help tearing up a trailer park.

[myway]

Point well taken re: Michael being a force of nature. But "unstoppable" as he may be, he still needs to physically get out of the hospital and nothing in the original film suggests that he can just punch his way through a brick wall.

[LucasGodzilla]

Originally Posted by omenboy

I don't want to spoil anything, but I did manage to find a secret production still from the upcoming sequel:

Did you hear? A trailer leaked out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZAh...ature=youtu.be

[borgmatrix]

Originally Posted by myway

I think all of the stuff with Sartain, and the "convenient" or "contrived" plot machinations were tied into a major theme in the movie; fate. Not only was it a great parallel to the original film, but the scene where Laurie's granddaughter was in class learning about fate worked to foreshadow and underscore the fact that it was Laurie's fate to encounter MM again.

And I don't think anyone has criticized that particular scene. I think the overarching themes are good, too. The problem isn't that scene or the wider themes, but so many other specific scenes and the way they chose to have things play out.

With Sartain, neither "convenient" nor "contrived" are descriptors that come to my mind. I'd say flat out ridiculous in places. There's a way of portraying some of these ideas that would work, but as we got well into the movie, his scenes felt melodramatic in the worst way.

This is a movie with a lot of potential and, generally, a good framework for the approach to the material. I just wish they'd had much better writers for the actual follow-through and execution.

[Lastyear]

I was pretty disappointed with this. Opening scene was the best one in the movie. All done hill after that.

[trans8010]

Originally Posted by flash.over

wrong. The point of the original ending was that he could be anywhere, not that he couldn’t be contained. Continuing it in any form is an automatic retcon, including Halloween II.

It had a double meaning. Carpenter goes on to say that yes he's out there, and all the places we once thought were safe are no longer the case, but because Loomis cannot kill him with 6 bullets, nor Laurie with two stab wounds to the neck and chest, and prior to his rampage in '78, he was kept in a dormant state for 15 years. After killing his sister, there wasn't a compulsion or need to kill again. It showcases the mysterious nature of evil, we don't know when or how it will take form, and when it will strike next. By not being able to vanquish Michael, Carpenter provides a commentary on evil itself, that it cannot be completely destroyed. There is an eternal struggle in the cosmos with the balance of good and evil, to provide that balance you have to have both. So what Green and McBride do, is postulate that the evil of Michael could only be placed in a dormant state, and if triggered, would reactivate.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by myway

Point well taken re: Michael being a force of nature. But "unstoppable" as he may be, he still needs to physically get out of the hospital and nothing in the original film suggests that he can just punch his way through a brick wall.

But maybe a transfer bus, he could be able to handle...

[myway]

I didn't notice a wallet in his hospital gown but I suppose he could hitchhike.

[trans8010]

Originally Posted by Lastyear

I was pretty disappointed with this. Opening scene was the best one in the movie. All done hill after that.

I happen to agree, somewhat. I thought the strongest portions of the film, were the beginning as well, but I did enjoy or was fascinated by much of the film. That long POV shot where he randomly picks off two women in the neighborhood. The bathroom sequence was just brutal, and I really felt my heart leap into my throat, but Laurie's story, is what made this from average remake/continuation to an amazing entry in a neverending saga of Michael Myers. Its amazing how poignant her story is, and how deeply down the rabbit hole she fell, refusing help, alienating her family with this driving obsession that herself as well as her family will not be safe as long as Michael is out there. In the real world, this crippling fear exists for many victims/survivors of such brutality, and even though Laurie is right in the end about her nightmare coming to a reality, it still doesn't make her any less of a fractured person, and its just not normal to carry on your life this way. Here was a 17 year old girl with so much life ahead of her, and one fateful night in 1978, it changed for the worse. Michael Myers took away her innocence, her security and left behind a twist version of her own self, frightful of the boogeyman and ahackled to that fear. I found Green's direction, Mcbride's screenplay (alongside Green and Radley) and Curtis's own performance to be moving, relatable and thrilling.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by ChainsawJedi

H2O? The chemical formula for water? Surely the title of the film is H20, as in the film came out twenty years after the original. Any other pronunciation is just proof of how many people weren't paying enough attention in school.

Not really. Plenty of people say “oh” instead of “zero” when referring to numbers, especially when giving out a phone number. Doesn’t mean they don’t know the difference between O and 0.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by levcore

I prefer the brother/ sister angle. I also think H20 should have been kept in the chronology.

If H20 had been kept in the chronology, how would you bring back Michael? Remake the first five minutes of Resurrection and say Laurie decapitated the wrong man again? Have a cult leader or mad scientist resurrect Michael like Frankenstein? The film wouldn’t be taken seriously and would just be another awkward and confusing sequel.

[ChainsawJedi]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Not really. Plenty of people say “oh” instead of “zero” when referring to numbers, especially when giving out a phone number. Doesn’t mean they don’t know the difference between O and 0.

They just choose to ignore it for the sake of appearing stupid.

[Steedeel]

Haters, get over it. It’s done well. Deal with it.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by myway

I didn't notice a wallet in hospital gown but I suppose he could hitchhike.

Or basically do what he did do which was kill a truck driver and his kid and take their wheels?

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

If H20 had been kept in the chronology, how would you bring back Michael? Remake the first five minutes of Resurrection and say Laurie decapitated the wrong man again? Have a cult leader or mad scientist resurrect Michael like Frankenstein? The film wouldn’t be taken seriously and would just be another awkward and confusing sequel.

H20 couldn't be kept in canon... that casualty was unfortunate but necessary.

[Creed]

Halloween earned a record-breaking $5.5 million on Halloween!