Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Lord-Oakbeard]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I have not been able to watch anything for nearly three weeks. I have been scanning slides for my friend, over 1740 of them so far, and converting them to digital files. These slides range from 26 to 72 years-old and all of them have age related damage, some severely so.

I have been trying to use software to repair some of this damage, but I can spend hours on just one picture. I am only trying to fix the best of the bunch, but that still leaves a lot in need of attention.

This work is very hard on the eyes. I also have to be careful not to sit at the computer too long or I suffer health consequences.

Tonight, though, I am taking a break and I plan to watch something, which something I don't know.

This film maybe apt:





Full respect from me to you for such an undertaking especially with your health issues.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lord-Oakbeard

This film maybe apt:





Full respect from me to you for such an undertaking especially with your health issues.

Good film, spoilt by the telecine wobble on disc.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Lord-Oakbeard

This film maybe apt:

[Show spoiler]

Full respect from me to you for such an undertaking especially with your health issues.

Sure would have been apropos to have watched it.

What I actually watched was:



...on Bapple TV as the Minions would call it. The movie was just ok; it started good, but then it just became weird and in a kinda way. Very colorful with good voice actors and it had a black cat in it. Gets a full star just for the black cat.

I finished the night with an episode from .

Art Garfunkel hosted and he used the opportunity to try and promote his solo singing career; he sang three times while his musical guest star only got to sing once. I think we know how well Art's solo career went.

John Belushi did an eerily foreshadowing skit where he played an old version of himself visiting the graves of his costars and lamenting their early deaths. He was the first of them to actually die nearly four years later, and almost to the day, on March 5, 1982 at the age of 33. This episode aired on March 11, 1978.

[the-pi-guy]

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[cheez avenger]

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[Steedeel]

Anyone seen this, and if so, thoughts please?

[alchav21]

Reavon is out of Business, did anyone buy one? They said the reason is lack of parts!

https://www.bing.com/search?q=is+rea...=QSRE1&ntref=1

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Reavon is out of Business, did anyone buy one? They said the reason is lack of parts!

https://www.bing.com/search?q=is+rea...=QSRE1&ntref=1

What's almost as interesting is why you are doing searches on 4K disc players. You have no interest in buying one nor in buying 4K discs, so why does this subject interest you so?

Is it time to tweak those disc lovers again?

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Vilya

What's almost as interesting is why you are doing searches on 4K disc players. You have no interest in buying one nor in buying 4K discs, so why does this subject interest you so?

Is it time to tweak those disc lovers again?

Didn't have to search it jumped out at me, I look at the Hardware side. So what do you think is it going to affect you much? It was suppose to replace the Oppo. I heard that Oppo's are going for $6000, are you guys going to buy these for Backups?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

So what do you think is it going to affect you much? It was suppose to replace the Oppo. I heard that Oppo's are going for $6000, are you guys going to buy these for Backups?

It won't affect me and given my situation I do not think that I need to concern myself with back-up players. What I have will almost certainly outlast me.

Used Oppo 203s can still be purchased for around a $1000-$1500. New in box can set you back $3000+.

New in box Oppo 205s can cost $4500+ with used ones running about $2100- $3100.

The prices fluctuate some, but these ranges are typical of what I see when I check on ebay.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Didn't have to search it jumped out at me, I look at the Hardware side. So what do you think is it going to affect you much? It was suppose to replace the Oppo. I heard that Oppo's are going for $6000, are you guys going to buy these for Backups?

I don’t see finding a player being a problem for at least 30 years looking at the history of vhs. Can’t say the same for digital given its unstable nature. It feels like one closes down every year or two.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Reavon closing is old news.

Reavon was a product by Groupe Archisoft, Paris, a.k.a. Laser Land. They were the parent company of Zappiti. Now they are the parent company of R_volution. It is unclear if Groupe Archisoft has a connection to Magnetar. At one time the US distributor for R_volution was the same folks for Magnetar but that distributor is now defunct. I know AV Science Sales sells Magnetar, Value Electronics may as well.

It is nice to see Tascam still sells their professional grade Blu-ray and UHD Blu-ray players, here.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Saying that "it's all digital" is meaningless and it really is damn sad if you can not understand why that is true. You continually say this in a weak attempt to create a false equivalency.

You are trying to imply that the up to 100gb digital file on a 4K disc is the same thing, and therefore the same quality, as what we get from streaming services and this has been proven false more often than you misunderstand things.

Below are two digital photos of the same flower. They are both "all digital", but are they equal? Surely even you can see the difference.



Oh, you could not back Wendell into a corner with a bulldozer; he is WAY out of your league in technical expertise.

I like to compare it to paper money yes a1$ bill and a 100$ bill is all paper money but sayiong that makes them the same is just ridiculous. And if someone really feals so I will gladly exchange my 1$ bills for their 100$ bills.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Shifting aspect ratios within a movie sound like a royal pain in the rear for you projectionists. I think that futzing with it might make me homicidal.

it is not all people with projections, most people have a fixed AR set-up just like TVs. But when you have a proper variable AR set-up it is annoying that you can't get the best out of your set-up. That being said I prefer mixed AR (if in the original creation) to P&S to get fixed AR. I just wish directors would stop doing that, pick an ER and go with it.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by veritas

I don’t see finding a player being a problem for at least 30 years looking at the history of vhs. Can’t say the same for digital given its unstable nature. It feels like one closes down every year or two.

I would say at least 30 years after the last one is produced, still a few manufacturers making players.

But it is alchev, somehow he always misses when decides stop supporting a given digital option because of planed obsolescence, when a given digital platform closes down, when a platform increases the prices, when they go down hill (looking to save on content)

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

What's almost as interesting is why you are doing searches on 4K disc players. You have no interest in buying one nor in buying 4K discs, so why does this subject interest you so?

Is it time to tweak those disc lovers again?

It’s the tingle.

[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by veritas

I don’t see finding a player being a problem for at least 30 years looking at the history of vhs. Can’t say the same for digital given its unstable nature. It feels like one closes down every year or two.

I wouldn't compare UHD players to VHS..LaserDisc is probably a better comparison in both longevity of the tech and future availability... you can still pick up LD players with a little bit of effort....EVERYONE still has a VHS player, somewhere even if they don't know exactly where..lol...

[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

it is not all people with projections, most people have a fixed AR set-up just like TVs. But when you have a proper variable AR set-up it is annoying that you can't get the best out of your set-up. That being said I prefer mixed AR (if in the original creation) to P&S to get fixed AR. I just wish directors would stop doing that, pick an ER and go with it.

I'm thinking my next expenditure will be for a MADVR setup... I've seen some amazing demos of their instant ratio switching on the fly. Their solution is done properly where you watch the scope image and the narrower ratios maintain constant height as though you are using the projectors lens memory...but without delay!

Just like the JELLYFIN server, it'll be a project for my son and I with parts we'll have lieing around (when he decides to update his supercomputer gaming rig again). It may mean losing the ZIDOO'S simple posterwall which the whole family loves and some ease of use ( which is my biggest concern) but I think this shifting ratio thing is unfortunately catching on...

[bhampton]

I remember when MadVR was free. I guess some version of it still is.

Here's a link to it but I don't recommend visiting the VideoHelp website with a PC.

[Show spoiler]https://www.videohelp.com/software/madVR

I used to use a HTPC with JRiver which had a Red October quality mode that used MadVR.

Variable Aspect Ratio doesn't bother me much. If it's a Christopher Nolan movie I just use my default 16/9 mode. That and some of the Mission Impossible movies.

[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I remember when MadVR was free. I guess some version of it still is.

Here's a link to it but I don't recommend visiting the VideoHelp website with a PC.

[Show spoiler]https://www.videohelp.com/software/madVR

I used to use a HTPC with JRiver which had a Red October quality mode that used MadVR.

Variable Aspect Ratio doesn't bother me much. If it's a Christopher Nolan movie I just use my default 16/9 mode. That and some of the Mission Impossible movies.

As much as seeing a scope image letterboxed and pillarboxed makes me cry, it's the actual shifting of the ratio mid movie, and worse, multiple times that makes me want jab a fork into my eye..

For the most part, I'm happy with simply matting to 2.2:1... I get most of the extra scene above and below the scope image during IMAX scenes and can barely notice the slight shift from 2.39:1 with thin black bars to the full screen with none.