Dark Force Entertainment Discussion Thread

[dawnofthediscs]

Originally Posted by Ruined

I wouldn't assume code red partnership is ending. I don't think dark force has any significant amount of content licenses to sell without code red and apparently they are continuing the drive in series with vol4 announcement next week. Probably just switching from Kino to another distro like MVD etc.

Is David DeFalco signing your paychecks?

Does he tell you what to say or does he let you freestyle?

When I went to see what one movie you have in your collection, I was REALLY surprised to see that it WASN'T Chaos.

You've done a really good job stirring the pot and keeping the thread going.

Does he pay you a commission or a bonus for that?

Is it Tax Free?

I'm not even trying to be mean, either. I am genuinely curious about your role with the company.

[NoirFan]

Originally Posted by painiac

"well received"

"huge success"


(Don't forget, this DeFalco fella measures these terms based upon 'the buzz we generated not the actual number of units sold'. )

[dawnofthediscs]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

"huge success"


(Don't forget, this DeFalco fella measures these terms based upon 'the buzz we generated not the actual number of units sold'. )

A very sound thought process...

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by dawnofthediscs

Is David DeFalco signing your paychecks?

Does he tell you what to say or does he let you freestyle?

When I went to see what one movie you have in your collection, I was REALLY surprised to see that it WASN'T Chaos.

You've done a really good job stirring the pot and keeping the thread going.

Does he pay you a commission or a bonus for that?

Is it Tax Free?

I'm not even trying to be mean, either. I am genuinely curious about your role with the company.

Lol.

Speaking of Chaos has DF announced the release date of the deluxe edition yet?

[Member-222782]

Unless I missed it, I saw no evidence that Kino had anything to do with distributing Offerings for Dark Force. Shouldn't there've been a Kino logo or other distinguishing marks on the packaging?

[dawnofthediscs]

Originally Posted by Cinema74

Unless I missed it, I saw no evidence that Kino had anything to do with distributing Offerings for Dark Force. Shouldn't there've been a Kino logo or other distinguishing marks on the packaging?

That was my thought as well. There wasn't anything on the Offerings case

[frakking toaster]

Originally Posted by Cinema74

Unless I missed it, I saw no evidence that Kino had anything to do with distributing Offerings for Dark Force. Shouldn't there've been a Kino logo or other distinguishing marks on the packaging?

I don't believe Kinos name pops up on the Code Red titles they distribute either.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Cinema74

Unless I missed it, I saw no evidence that Kino had anything to do with distributing Offerings for Dark Force. Shouldn't there've been a Kino logo or other distinguishing marks on the packaging?

The stock photo for Offerings has the classic slim blu ray banner that all Kino releases have.

Bottom of spine of case also has K23012 kino stock #

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by frakking toaster

I don't believe Kinos name pops up on the Code Red titles they distribute either.

I guess they only slap their logos on titles they directly collaborate with other labels on, like Scorpion. I've rearranged my shelves by label so I had to decide whether I wanted to put the Kino/Scorpion collaborations in the Kino or Scorpion sections (I chose Kino). I've got Offerings off to the side until I decide where to put them

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Cinema74

I guess they only slap their logos on titles they are not embarrassed for it to be on, like Scorpion. I've rearranged my shelves by label so I had to decide whether I wanted to put the Kino/Scorpion collaborations in the Kino or Scorpion sections (I chose Kino). I've got Offerings off to the side until I decide where to put them

FTFY

CR/DF releases probably too politically incorrect for them to want to attach their name to it.

[Braktastic]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Lol.

Speaking of Chaos has DF announced the release date of the deluxe edition yet?

You can laugh all you want, but I've never seen a person come across as a bigger shill than you have in this thread; and having spent so much time in the Code Red thread, that's really saying something!

[dawnofthediscs]

Originally Posted by Braktastic

You can laugh all you want, but I've never seen a person come across as a bigger shill than you have in this thread; and having spent so much time in the Code Red thread, that's really saying something!

Ain't that the truth.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Braktastic

You can laugh all you want, but I've never seen a person come across as a bigger shill than you have in this thread; and having spent so much time in the Code Red thread, that's really saying something!

Ok

Pardon me for not participating in the hate pile-on and conspiracy theories.

Dark Force announced cool titles I want, that's mostly what I care about, not the high school drama I've seen in this thread.

[frakking toaster]

Originally Posted by Cinema74

I guess they only slap their logos on titles they directly collaborate with other labels on, like Scorpion. I've rearranged my shelves by label so I had to decide whether I wanted to put the Kino/Scorpion collaborations in the Kino or Scorpion sections (I chose Kino). I've got Offerings off to the side until I decide where to put them

I organize mine the same way. All of the scorpion kino collabs are in the Scorpion section for me.

[dawnofthediscs]

Originally Posted by frakking toaster

I organize mine the same way. All of the scorpion kino collabs are in the Scorpion section for me.

Same here.

[frakking toaster]

Originally Posted by dawnofthediscs

Same here.

I have all of my studios organized alphabetically except Scorpion comes after Code Red since I always associate the two. Don't know where my Dark Force blus are going though since that collab might be over haha

[Braktastic]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Ok

Pardon me for not participating in the hate pile-on and conspiracy theories.

Dark Force announced cool titles I want, that's mostly what I care about, not the high school drama I've seen in this thread.

Best to not participate at all then, as I haven't until now. Your bending over backwards to come up with equally implausible alternative theories in their defense doesn't help the matter any more than all the piling on and conspiracy theories. It just makes you look like a shill because most people fail to see how else you would someone gain from that behavior.

I bought their first drive-in double-feature, and I finally got their second with HotEotP/LHoMS shipped from DDD, so I have no dog in The House that Vanished fight. For me, I'm not interested in a compromised release of that film, so I'll hold out for a better one.

[AKNewbie]

Originally Posted by mja345

Does this guy realize that consummate is primarily used in the context of boning? Nobody says, "I consummated that deal" because you think of sex, not signing a contract.

I think that use is apropos in this case.
Figure someone new is going to get f**ked.

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[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Braktastic

Best to not participate at all then, as I haven't until now. Your bending over backwards to come up with equally implausible alternative theories in their defense doesn't help the matter any more than all the piling on and conspiracy theories. It just makes you look like a shill because most people fail to see how else you would someone gain from that behavior.

Kind of sad that not jumping to mob-rule conclusions based on incomplete data is considered "shill" behavior. In reality, it's simply presenting a logical alternative that is also possible. Unless you work for Dark Force you don't know the truth behind some of the assumptions made in this thread.

I have noticed in this forum mob mentality is the way it goes. If you don't go along with the mob mentality you are branded a troll and now a shill. I don't care to go along with mob mentality thus if there are reasonable alternative explanations I will continue to discuss them.

I also find it entertaining that some keep calling to put me on an ignore list (or telling me to keep quiet) because reading opinions they don't agree with is apparently so mentally troubling for some on this forum. Although frankly, this is a problem with society in general these days. [emoji3]

[GilaFilms]

Time will tell if Code Red stays linked with Dark Force. Without Code Red's assistance, though, it's likely the label will fold, as Code Red was supplying both titles and transfers, and DeFalco's knowledge about the home media business is so limited that he wasn't even aware of what source material was used for THTV (print vs. IP vs. CRI, etc.). Also, his situation has become rather public within the boutique home media industry, with other label heads commenting on it and Kino dropping him...I doubt he'd find too many others interested in assisting him should Code Red withdraw.

I theorize that Dark Force essentially allows Code Red the ability to maintain a larger storefront while Bill Olsen is in Los Angeles, which is where DeFalco lives. Instead of just shutting down the Code Red cartel storefront, he can also operate thru Dark Force's.