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Old 01-26-2023, 02:06 AM   #5201
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I read it all. Interesting analysis, Mr. KK.
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Old 01-26-2023, 04:54 AM   #5202
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But really Danny made a mistake and unlocked it, knocked on the door, waited to here his Dad getting up (he knocks over boxes of food) and then skedaddled.

I don't remember this being depicted, nor implied.



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They DON'T SEE GHOSTS. They have psychological episodes from psychosis!


What are the odds of Danny and Wendy sharing exactly the same, psychotic vision...of the blood wave flowing from the Overlook elevators? This supports the idea of Danny's Shining presaging an event at the Overlook, one which Wendy actually witnesses, whatever its nature...which didn't strike me as psychosis.

At any rate, I can see you put a lot of thought into this, and I'll read through it again...but none of it clicked with me. Generally speaking, it feels a little too tight and pat, however interesting.

What's your take on the theme of determinism, Jack saying it was as if he knew what was going to be around every corner,
[Show spoiler]Grady assuring him he'd '....always been the caretaker,'...and Kubrick's closing shot of a man--the spitting image of Torrance--at the Overlook's July 4th Ball in 1921
? Seems to me The Shining is concerned with more than a strict, psychosis reading. It's a weird film...and they tend to wriggle away from being spelled out. That's fine by me, because I really enjoy re-experiencing and continuing to puzzle out Kubrick's masterly maze.

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Old 02-25-2023, 03:22 PM   #5203
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For those interested, Taschen is releasing a limited edition book about the movie and more, it's one of their famous expensive cult items:

https://www.taschen.com/en/limited-e...s-the-shining/

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Old 02-25-2023, 10:28 PM   #5204
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It looks good and for the first time ever will festure colour photographs from the original ending as well as all other deleted scenes and these are taken from pieces of actual film as well as many still photos and continuity Polaroids that have never been seen so finally a complete look at the filming of this movie as well as the many notes Kubrick took.
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Old 02-25-2023, 11:37 PM   #5205
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I hadn't heard about an "original ending" before, so I found this article:
https://lostmediawiki.com/The_Shinin...or_film;_1980)
This line caught my attention:
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[Kubrick] ordered Warner Bros. to contract an editor to psychically cut the scene from the reels it was included in at these early screenings.
(emphasis added) Maybe it was one of the ghosts.
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Old 03-05-2023, 11:17 AM   #5206
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Old 03-05-2023, 09:44 PM   #5207
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Put up their windshield wipers like they'll be back soon
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Old 03-07-2023, 02:08 AM   #5208
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Old 03-21-2023, 02:48 AM   #5211
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Watch the Yosemite video at 50% speed with the Shining Main Title playing . . .



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Old 03-24-2023, 08:36 AM   #5212
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Is Jack Daniel's Bourbon? Yes. And no. Jack Daniel's chooses not to call itself bourbon, but the historic brand applies for federal label approval under the class of bourbon and Tennessee whiskey is listed as straight bourbon in the North American Free Trade Agreement.


https://www.fredminnick.com/2017/11/...niels-bourbon/

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Old 03-24-2023, 09:06 AM   #5213
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Alll work and no play makes Jack a dull bot
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Old 03-28-2023, 03:59 AM   #5214
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I watched this last night, first time seeing it in 4K, and it looked amazing. Super clear and clean. It was great. It makes me wonder why they couldn't get Child's Play so clear and clean looking? That movie had tons and tons fuzziness all throughout the picture. I don't undertand it.

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This is the first truly great psychological film in film history. So lets listen to old KK dissect it for you guys!

[Show spoiler]Let's recap....

Jack promised earlier when Danny went to get his red fire truck engine that he would never ever ever hurt Danny or Wendy. Danny trusts his Dad because they all have psychological scars/problems, and Jack tells him he would never ever hurt him and he loves him more than anything else in the whole wide world, and would never do anything in the world to ever hurt him. In case you wondered.

His mother also told him that he'd have great time at the hotel way earlier in the film. That's how Jack is let out. He lies to his son Danny. Danny has psychological abuse related problems. No way you say? Just listen to the little kid sounding knocks at the walk in freezer door, before Jack wakes up and slips back into psychosis and imagines he is talking to Grady who murdered his 2 girls. It's also possible that Jack has Dissociative disorder. Dissociative disorders are mental disorders that involve experiencing a disconnection and lack of continuity between thoughts, memories, surroundings, actions and identity.

Yes, those knocks are the sound of a little child/toddler/kid etc. not a big old Ghost man! Can't you ever tell when a kid knocks on your door trying to sell cookies for school and the difference between an adult salesman? BINGO! But you say nope, nope, nope, like Jordan Banana Peele? Ok. Here me out.

Jack has a psychotic break way, way, way, before He even gets into it with his wife and she fears for her life and she whacks him over the head with a baseball bat.

Remember she discovers the typewriter with the repeating lines for hundreds of pages basically. Jack cracked at the typewriter, he cracked at the bar, he cracked in the restrooms etc. he cracks all over this hotel. Might he be cracked in the walk in freezer? I say YES!

Anyway after that ordeal he is dragged and is locked in the walk in freezer by his wife.

Wendy is shown later exhausted and goes upstairs and falls asleep/naps.

Kubrick then Cuts to Danny in a psychotic break upstairs in their bedroom with his Mom asleep. (Remember Jack and Danny break into psychosis whenever they look in mirrors or simply walk past them! (Bathroom Mirrors, Tony, Bartender, Bedroom Mirrors, Room 237, gold room mirrors etc.) He grabs Moms lipstick and Knife and writes REDRUM on a door chanting REDRUM like 40+x similar to his Dad writing 40+ pages on that typewriter they both have psychological problems. Remember bedroom mirror sets Danny off again most likely.


This is why Wendy see's Skeletons and Ghosts late in the film. She BREAKS too eventually! She looks into the abyss of this mirror and SNAPS into psychosis like Jack and Danny finally!

Now the definition.

Psychosis (also called a 'psychotic experience' or 'psychotic episode') is when you perceive or interpret reality in a very different way from people around you. You might be said to 'lose touch' with reality.

Kubrick uses MIRRORS to trigger psychosis in his characters in THIS FILM and try's to manipulate YOU the audience into believing that Jack is speaking with The Caretaker/Grady when he is just simply psychotic and having another of his many episodes/ notice the mirror like finish of the walk in freezer door! See Kubrick is just at the top of his game here he is doing what no other filmmaker ever did for his time! He tricks the entire audience!
That's how you know Jack is in another psychotic break! And not speaking to Ghosts like King would have you believe, but no this is simply Kubrick's master psychological film.

But really Danny made a mistake and unlocked it, knocked on the door, waited to here his Dad getting up (he knocks over boxes of food) and then skedaddled.

If you understand psychosis and family psychological abuse. You try to help people that you shouldn't etc. It might not make sense to you but this is Kubrick's film. If you want Ghosts go read Kings version.

You have to understand how psychology and psychosis work to understand this film and what is really going on. But it's NOT GHOSTS.

Jack
Wendy
Danny

They ALL 3 have psychological mental disorders. These characters "BREAK" at different points throughout Kubrick's tale, and the main characters have problems with Mirrors. This is not Stephen Kings The Shining. Kubrick takes the skeletons of the story and re imagines it his way! He psychologically abuses the audiences YOU who think it's going to be Kings take. Nope! No possessed shrubs here. So... forget what you know this is 100% Psychological Horror put to celluloid not paper.

Do they all look normal to you here? LOL nope. These are shots from them in their broken psychological states.


They DON'T SEE GHOSTS. They have psychological episodes from psychosis!

Why do you think you hear of a mass shooting spree on the news almost daily? Someone breaks. Now, don't let it be you! Spooky!! This is why the LONG Cut is Definitive it explains all of their actions through psychology/psychosis. The shorter cut leaves out a lot of the clues. Which might be another reason this film lives on in infamy and is so difficult for people to wrap their heads around. I would only watch the uncut version to understand it and the edited version if you wish to be confused as all hell.


I hope you all enjoy my film analysis Good day sirs!
Interesting.

Why was Jack in the picture at the end? What does it mean?
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Interesting.

Why was Jack in the picture at the end? What does it mean?
It's just a better ending than what Stephen King had come up with. So it stayed.
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It's just a better ending than what Stephen King had come up with. So it stayed.
Yeah but what is the meaning of it?
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Yeah but what is the meaning of it?
[Show spoiler]He was absorbed into the hotel.
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Old 04-21-2023, 07:41 AM   #5219
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I should know, I've always been here.

[Show spoiler]It suggests Endless Cycles Of Evil Reincarnation. Kubrick says so himself. But it's also a better ending than in the book, about the boiler blowing him up.

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My take would also be...

[Show spoiler]The film is partly about the violent legacy of American colonialism so having Jack ending up in a picture of a ball of rich representing that era
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