The Criterion Collection

[ShellOilJunior]

Originally Posted by Kull

Why, why, oh why only Region A? I'd buy half of criterion's catalogue if I could actually play it. :/

Could ask the same thing of MOC or BFI. Rights issues.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

Actually Rhys Meyers had the body for the earlier part of Henry VIII's reign, he didn't get fat until middle age after some hunting accident. He was a good looker back in the day. Rhys Meyers had the wrong colouring, Henry was a redhead (much like the current Prince). Elizabeth I got her colouring from him. Henry also was childish, which is why he was a tyrant. Most of his tyrannical behaviour came out of being a spoiled brat who was never supposed to be king. There were other liberties taken with this story that you didn't mention, but it's not as wildly outrageous as those horrid Philippa Gregory novels/films.

My main beef with Tudor history on film/tv is that they always portray Catherine of Aragon as olive skinned and dark hair. This is a painting of Catherine of Aragon:

[Show spoiler]

She also had a stronger claim to the throne than Henry VII or Henry VIII.

Sorry, I'll stop now. Henry VIII and his wives were the reason why I became a history major. I read Alison Weir's non-fiction book back when I was 13 for shits and giggles and have been a Tudor fan ever since. Actually, I'm a fan of English/British history in general, but the Tudors are my main interest.

Wow! Lot's of historical info in this post. I think people usually get confuse on the look of Catherine because she came from Spain but many people in Hollywood often forget that European royalty was extremely mixed and born in one country did not mean having the usual look of the people of that country.

As for Henry yes we all know he was a rather athletic guy up to a point in his life but what I mean is Laugthon does look the part, like I mention it's as if he walked out of a painting

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Wow! Lot's of historical info in this post. I think people usually get confuse on the look of Catherine because she came from Spain but many people in Hollywood often forget that European royalty was extremely mixed and born in one country did not mean having the usual look of the people of that country.

As for Henry yes we all know he was a rather athletic guy up to a point in his life but what I mean is Laugthon does look the part, like I mention it's as if he walked out of a painting

Sorry for being such a history nerd. I do agree with you that Laughton was perfect. Far better than Richard Burton was in Anne of the Thousand Days! Ray Winstone does a smashing job in the HBO mini-series Henry VIII as well. Laughton is perfect because at this point Henry is gaining weight and is losing his looks.

And I agree, Catherine of Aragon looked more English than Spanish because of her English ancestry. I honestly can't think of any instance where they actually had Catherine as a redhead, ad every portrayal I've seem has been with dark hair and olive skin. I nitpick too much.

I find that people focus on Henru VIII and the Tudors because it's all do soap operaish. Even then, most of them still have to tart it up with fiction as it isn't scandalous enough.

I'd like to see criterion release a dual pack of The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex and the Virgin Queen, as Bette Davis is such a fantastic Elizabeth. However, that's not going to happen as the former is Warner and the latter is Fox. Perhaps criterion might be able to release Young Bess with Jean Simmons as its MGM

[oildude]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

Actually Rhys Meyers had the body for the earlier part of Henry VIII's reign, he didn't get fat until middle age after some hunting accident.

My main beef with Tudor history on film/tv is that they always portray Catherine of Aragon as olive skinned and dark hair. This is a painting of Catherine of Aragon:

[Show spoiler]

She also had a stronger claim to the throne than Henry VII or Henry VIII.

I read Alison Weir's non-fiction book back when I was 13 for shits and giggles and have been a Tudor fan ever since. Actually, I'm a fan of English/British history in general, but the Tudors are my main interes.

Ha ha! So did I, at least the one titled The Six Wives of Henry VIII, as well as a couple of more by other authors. As you pointed out, Henry was considered the model Renaissance man - athletic, educated, mannered, versed in languages, etc, but volatile. He was considered very handsome and a great match for one of the royal houses of Europe, which was very important to his father Henry VII since the Tudors were not entirely secure on their throne (it was Henry VII who defeated Richard III on the battlefield to claim the crown, and brought an end to the thirty years dynastic struggle known as the Wars of the Roses by marrying Elizabeth of York and uniting the two warring factions). Henry VIII was the second son of Henry VII and never intended for the throne until his older brother died.

Nice post, BG. You have a fellow English/British history nerd on this thread. The late Medieval and Renaissance era is a particular favorite of mine.

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by oildude

Ha ha! So did I, at least the one titled The Six Wives of Henry VIII, as well as a couple of more by other authors. As you pointed out, Henry was considered the model Renaissance man - athletic, educated, mannered, versed in languages, etc, but volatile. He was considered very handsome and a great match for one of the royal houses of Europe, which was very important to his father Henry VII since the Tudors were not entirely secure on their throne (it was Henry VII who defeated Richard III on the battlefield to claim the crown, and brought an end to the thirty years dynastic struggle known as the Wars of the Roses by marrying Elizabeth of York and uniting the two warring factions). Henry VIII was the second son of Henry VII and never intended for the throne until his older brother died.

Nice post, BG. You have a fellow English/British history nerd on this thread. The late Medieval and Renaissance era is a particular favorite of mine.

That's the one! I read that so much in junior high I split the book in half! I have a ridiculous amount of Tudor texts. Actually, a ridiculous amount of History texts in general. some are historic items in themselves as they were initially published in the early 20th century. I've looked up the price on some of them, and they're ridiculously priced due to their OOPness.

Your post is also excellent. Believe it or not, the Wikipedis article of the day is Battle of Bosworth Field! The very battle you mentioned.

And yeah Tudors had a weak claim as they were from the "bastard line" of John of Gaunt. The kids were eventually legitimatised, but no one from the line was supposed to claim the throne. However, stability outweighed legitimacy. The Henrys faced a few rebellions, but most people wanted an end to the fighting so they were quashed quickly for the most part.

And yes, we all know how Henry married Arthur's widow Catherine of Aragon. If Charles V, the Holy Roman Emperor hadn't been Catherine's nephew, the Pope probably would have annulled that marriage and you wouldn't have had the English reformation of the church.

I'll stop now before I go completely overboard on the history lecture.

[ShellOilJunior]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

I'll stop now before I go completely overboard on the history lecture.

One of my degrees is in history so I don't mind. Although, my focus was CLAM.

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

One of my degrees is in history so I don't mind. Although, my focus was CLAM.

I'm admittedly not familiar with that abbreviation. Is it a US thing? Am I incorrect in assuming its Classics?

[BohemianGraham]

Cheap Canadian November preorders finally up! Rashomon and Week End are 27.99! Didn't check thr trilogy of life but heaven's gate is 35 due to the double dusk.

[Dieu]

Bonjour, I watch Lola Montes last night and I did some research on the movie just to realise that I just saw my first cinemascope pic.

It seems visualy weird to me. When the camera pan from side to side, the object (like a mountain in the background) just "pivot" on itself as it is going off frame.

Is it typical of the format?

[ShellOilJunior]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

I'm admittedly not familiar with that abbreviation. Is it a US thing? Am I incorrect in assuming its Classics?

Classical and Medieval.

Also, I took quite a few Japanese classes.

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Classical and Medieval.

Also, I took quite a few Japanese classes.

Ah gotcha, Classics where I went to university was within the history dept, but at the same time, was separate from History due to the emphasis on language in addition to history.

I took both Latin and German (and didn't do so well) for my language Reqs. I wish I had taken some more non-western history other than the intro classes. I became interested in the area too late.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

Cheap Canadian November preorders finally up! Rashomon and Week End are 27.99! Didn't check thr trilogy of life but heaven's gate is 35 due to the double dusk.

Thanks I just pre-ordered Rashomon, I also always keep an eye out for these since they end up raising the prices after the release

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Thanks I just pre-ordered Rashomon, I also always keep an eye out for these since they end up raising the prices after the release

I know, and we don't know what B&N will be doing in November yet. I preordered Rashomon and Week End. I may be paying a few bucks more per title, if the November sale does happen, but I won't be waiting a month for them. I'll use that sale for eclipse sets. I hope to only have about 6 BDs left on my backlog wish list by then.

[Darkcritic]

Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

You have never seen Easy Rider, or just the BD they released?

Never . I will probably start seeing the boxset one of these days. I shouldn't have bought the Eric Rohmer's Six Moral Tales before watching this as I will probably skip the thing again to watch that . I think the problem actually is that the supplements are so overwhelming that I don't think I have time to sit and watch them (I normally watch most of them after viewing just so I can have the film fresh in my mind). The only ones I hear just at times are commentaries.

Originally Posted by Simple Lines

You need to watch Five Easy Pieces and The Last Picture Show.

The King of Marvin Gardens is pretty good...

The rest is average or below average.

Excited about the whole set except for A Safe Place/Drive, He Said. Will give them a try.

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

you're being far too generous to A Safe Place by calling it "below average" and I would say Head is more than average and would switch The King of Marvin Gardens to must watch and the Last Picture Show as pretty good. of course we could also let Saul decide for himself as to what films are good.

The King of Marvin Gardens, Easy Rider and Five Easy Pieces are the ones I want to see the most but I will go in order .

[ShellOilJunior]

Originally Posted by Darkcritic

Excited about the whole set except for A Safe Place/Drive, He Said.

I'd recommend shutting off the Jaglom if it doesn't do anything for you after 10 minutes. It really is a waste of 90 minutes. It's pseudo-art house pretentious bull flop.

The Nicholson is worth one view at least but it is a bit of a mess.

[rkish]

Originally Posted by oildude

Ha ha! So did I, at least the one titled The Six Wives of Henry VIII, as well as a couple of more by other authors. As you pointed out, Henry was considered the model Renaissance man - athletic, educated, mannered, versed in languages, etc, but volatile. He was considered very handsome and a great match for one of the royal houses of Europe, which was very important to his father Henry VII since the Tudors were not entirely secure on their throne (it was Henry VII who defeated Richard III on the battlefield to claim the crown, and brought an end to the thirty years dynastic struggle known as the Wars of the Roses by marrying Elizabeth of York and uniting the two warring factions). Henry VIII was the second son of Henry VII and never intended for the throne until his older brother died.

Nice post, BG. You have a fellow English/British history nerd on this thread. The late Medieval and Renaissance era is a particular favorite of mine.

That was the book that Rick Wakeman picked up in a airport newsstand and motivated him to produce his famous first solo album of the same name. I have yet to read that book, but maybe the two of you have motivated me enough to do so now.

[rock, stone]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Could ask the same thing of MOC or BFI. Rights issues.

Well, MoC and BFI region lock only what they have to, while CC locks every single release.

So a little bellyaching is probably earned.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

Sorry for being such a history nerd. I do agree with you that Laughton was perfect. Far better than Richard Burton was in Anne of the Thousand Days! Ray Winstone does a smashing job in the HBO mini-series Henry VIII as well. Laughton is perfect because at this point Henry is gaining weight and is losing his looks.

They've both still got to up against Robert Shaw's cheerily violent-tendencies version in "A Man For All Seasons", though.
(And you thought he was scary in "The Sting"... )

[P@t_Mtl]

Picture of Pinic At Hanging Rock on Criterion FB page, does this mean's it's coming soon?

[ParticleDan]

Originally Posted by rock, stone

Well, MoC and BFI region lock only what they have to, while CC locks every single release.

So a little bellyaching is probably earned.

That's great to hear! I had no idea. I've been wanted to grab several MoC titles but don't want the hassle/expense of getting a region free player.

I see Sunrise is listed as region free. Any other big titles that aren't locked?