Offical Neon Genesis Evangelion Info/Update Thread - Page 266 - Blu-ray Forum

King Crimson · 09-01-2021, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by svenge

As far as I'm aware the following pieces of actual content are missing from the US/UK/AU Ultimate Edition that the JP Blu-ray boxes have:

* Non-telop ED
* The 1997 theatrical cut of "Death and Rebirth"
* 22x audio tracks from the series in 5.1 audio (also seen in Vol. 8 of the JP "Renewal" DVDs).
* "AR Rush" / "Animatic" video for a portion of "Rebirth"
* Teaser trailer for Hideaki Anno's 1998 film "Love & Pop" (was at the end of the theatrical presentation of EoE on Disc #7)

Regarding the extras found on Disc #7 of the Archives DVD set, I don't believe that anyone has ever subbed those. Someone did adapt the subs from the US DVD containing Death[True]² to the "Death[True] and Rebirth" version of the film exclusive to that box set, though.

I think the EPISODE:25' Love is destructive (partial animatic) is the

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* "AR Rush" / "Animatic" video for a portion of "Rebirth"

Can you elaborate please?

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* 22x audio tracks from the series in 5.1 audio (also seen in Vol. 8 of the JP "Renewal" DVDs).

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Someone did adapt the subs from the US DVD containing Death[True]² to the "Death[True] and Rebirth" version of the film exclusive to that box set, though.

Could you please PM if you know where these Subs are located? About to start the process of ripping the content from the discs and would like to find subs for the broadcast version of Evangelion OA 1-26 and the subs for Theatrical Death and Rebirth, Death[True] and Rebirth and Death[True]²

Catbug · 09-01-2021, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by King Crimson

Could you please PM if you know where these Subs are located? About to start the process of ripping the content from the discs and would like to find subs for the broadcast version of Evangelion OA 1-26 and the subs for Theatrical Death and Rebirth, Death[True] and Rebirth and Death[True]²

Please let me know if you get these!

svenge · 09-01-2021, 04:18 PM

@King Crimson:

If you look at the Japanese BD set's bonus features listing you can see that the AR Rush videos for Rebirth and Air occupy separate line items.

「EVANGELION:REBIRTH」
. 第25話「Air」（一部)

That said, it seems that I originally misinterpreted that the AR Rush for "Rebirth" is just a partial excerpt instead of actually being full-length. The line item for "Air" has 一部 (TL: "Part") at the end, while "Rebirth" doesn't. Of course this would make sense due to Rebirth being only slightly longer than a TV episode, while "Air" is roughly twice as long.

As for the 22x audio tracks in 5.1 audio, it's just like how it sounds. There's a 59-minute long video title that has all 22 songs running back-to-back with chapter stops, with the only visual content being the name of the track currently being played displayed in white on a black screen. For the Renewal Vol. 8 DVD there wasn't a menu option that allowed you to go directly to a given track, but that deficiency was remedied in the JP Blu-ray set's Disc #7.

I'll also PM you regarding your request at the end of your previous post.

Obento · 09-01-2021, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Catbug

Please let me know if you get these!

Be sure to let me know as well

Catbug · 09-01-2021, 05:58 PM

Does anybody know if the classic or official dubs have English closed captioning? I have a slight hearing impairment so I often leave subtitles on. It’s so annoying though when I’m watching dubbed anime and the only available English subtitles only work with the Japanese track…

Bobo1313 · 09-01-2021, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Catbug

Does anybody know if the classic or official dubs have English closed captioning? I have a slight hearing impairment so I often leave subtitles on. It’s so annoying though when I’m watching dubbed anime and the only available English subtitles only work with the Japanese track…

It says SDH for one of the subtitles, probably the Netflix version.

MDubs · 09-01-2021, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by King Crimson

So for the second video posted. The version on the left is what is included on the archives dvd set and the right side is the renewal version which is used in the platinum sets and blurays?

I just bought this set and the bluray set from Amazon jp

Aren't you the guy who was arguing against buying the JP bluray set earlier in this thread? I'm asking cause I'm confused, not trying to be contentious.

King Crimson · 09-01-2021, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MDubs

Aren't you the guy who was arguing against buying the JP bluray set earlier in this thread? I'm asking cause I'm confused, not trying to be contentious.

I wasn't arguing against it I was asking why do people buy it if they rip the discs, I was trying to understand how they do, why they do it, get info on how they do it / watch it with subs etc or burn modified ISO's, but got quickly modded and accused of supporting stealing IP even though in the past week I've bought the UC, the Archives of Eva DVD box and the Blu-ray Box set, go figure.

The Collector FX · 09-02-2021, 01:15 AM

Looks like Anime LTD freed up some stock from cancelled pre-orders.

kk1 · 09-02-2021, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by King Crimson

I wasn't arguing against it I was asking why do people buy it if they rip the discs, I was trying to understand how they do, why they do it, get info on how they do it / watch it with subs etc or burn modified ISO's, but got quickly modded and accused of supporting stealing IP even though in the past week I've bought the UC, the Archives of Eva DVD box and the Blu-ray Box set, go figure.

Next time preface your questions with "hey I'm thinking of buying the Japanese...", probably be less confusion that way.

Krycek7o2 · 09-02-2021, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by King Crimson

I wasn't arguing against it I was asking why do people buy it if they rip the discs, I was trying to understand how they do, why they do it, get info on how they do it / watch it with subs etc or burn modified ISO's, but got quickly modded and accused of supporting stealing IP even though in the past week I've bought the UC, the Archives of Eva DVD box and the Blu-ray Box set, go figure.

That's what I've done. I always buy the sets, rip them using software able to make MKVs and add my own audio/subtitles. This is also the reason why I bought the Ultimate Edition and the Italian collectors editions. The Italian sources tend to have higher video quality. Since I already own the Japanese 2015 boxset, I'll be using all three sources to make my personal ultimate set.

Gorgon · 09-03-2021, 01:01 AM

^^ That's....not a small chuck of coin.
I sincerely hope you are able to put together the set of your dreams.
Sounds like you have the right building blocks at least.

King Crimson · 09-03-2021, 01:54 PM

When is FMTTM used in Death?

Sylontack · 09-03-2021, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by King Crimson

When is FMTTM used in Death?

I don't recall it in Death (unless maybe it is playing in Shinji's walkman? I haven't watched Death since I was a kid), so I did a quick google and it does have an instrumental version of it in the score (track 11 on the OST, alternative arrangement of track 13 on OST III)

[Show spoiler]

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King Crimson · 09-03-2021, 08:53 PM

Well Well well, I'm VERY HAPPY to announce that OPPO 103D can use subtitle srt files from a usb stick, though none of the subtitles I found are properly sync'd to the Eva blu-ray box so I will need to resync everything, but this makes me very happy

Also I run a 5.1 setup through a 3.1 sound bar and LR and RR speakers, the codec for the bluray is LPCM but Im getting no audio from the center channel on 2 different tvs with similar surround sound setups, does anyone get a center channel use for those that have the Blu-ray box when listening in 5.1?

keitaro · 09-03-2021, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by King Crimson

Well Well well, I'm VERY HAPPY to announce that OPPO 103D can use subtitle srt files from a usb stick, though none of the subtitles I found are properly sync'd to the Eva blu-ray box so I will need to resync everything, but this makes me very happy

Also I run a 5.1 setup through a 3.1 sound bar and LR and RR speakers, the codec for the bluray is LPCM but Im getting no audio from the center channel on 2 different tvs with similar surround sound setups, does anyone get a center channel use for those that have the Blu-ray box when listening in 5.1?

I have the same 5.1 setup as you. You should not have a problem with the center channel. I usually upmix my 2.0 animes to 5.1. It's not that hard to do. Just read up on your stereo manual.

King Crimson · 09-03-2021, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by keitaro

I have the same 5.1 setup as you. You should not have a problem with the center channel. I usually upmix my 2.0 animes to 5.1. It's not that hard to do. Just read up on your stereo manual.

I've read else where that Samsung 3.1 soundbars and Samsung soundbars in general do not support LPCM 5.1, I'm not getting any response from the center channel even when connecting directly to the soundbar through HDMI audio out from my player. I select the surround mode on the remote and then center channel is getting used but dialogue is still coming out of the front left and right also.

the DD 5.1 from the platinum set mix's perfectly through the soundbar regardless.

Yeah I just checked the manual for my models, only LPCM 2.0 supported for LPCM !@#$

Obento · 09-03-2021, 10:48 PM

Can't you use the phono outs on the Oppo to feed the individual channels on the soundbar?

Krycek7o2 · 09-04-2021, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorgon

^^ That's....not a small chuck of coin.
I sincerely hope you are able to put together the set of your dreams.
Sounds like you have the right building blocks at least.

You're right. I had to get the wife's permission on this one before proceeding...
I sure hope so. I've learned a lot about audio syncing through Adobe Premiere in the last few months and have actually synced the ADV dub to the BD source. I know there are fan options for the dub, but all were not properly synced. Besides, I wanted to do it myself to practice.

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Originally Posted by King Crimson

When is FMTTM used in Death?

It's used during Kaji's phone message to Misato.
I believe this is the correct notes I wrote: 53:34.900ms - 54:15.251ms - [B4 - The Sorrow of Losing the Object of One's Dependence II]

Albie989 · 09-04-2021, 01:34 AM

To be honest, Spike Spencer's performance turned off on the original dub so I've only ever watched Eva subbed.

(full disclosure: my brother owns ADV's Platinum Edition set and the Manga DVDs of the movies)

Also, "Fly Me to the Moon" is a song I associate with the franchise but I understand why it's missing.

09-01-2021, 04:18 PM	#5303
svenge Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Washington State 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:474 DVD collection:157 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:67	@King Crimson: If you look at the Japanese BD set's bonus features listing you can see that the AR Rush videos for Rebirth and Air occupy separate line items. 「EVANGELION:REBIRTH」 . 第25話「Air」（一部) That said, it seems that I originally misinterpreted that the AR Rush for "Rebirth" is just a partial excerpt instead of actually being full-length. The line item for "Air" has 一部 (TL: "Part") at the end, while "Rebirth" doesn't. Of course this would make sense due to Rebirth being only slightly longer than a TV episode, while "Air" is roughly twice as long. As for the 22x audio tracks in 5.1 audio, it's just like how it sounds. There's a 59-minute long video title that has all 22 songs running back-to-back with chapter stops, with the only visual content being the name of the track currently being played displayed in white on a black screen. For the Renewal Vol. 8 DVD there wasn't a menu option that allowed you to go directly to a given track, but that deficiency was remedied in the JP Blu-ray set's Disc #7. I'll also PM you regarding your request at the end of your previous post. Last edited by svenge; 09-01-2021 at 04:41 PM.

09-03-2021, 08:53 PM	#5315
King Crimson Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2017 Location:Tokyo 4K collection:379 Blu-ray collection:760 DVD collection:47 Trading Score:32	Well Well well, I'm VERY HAPPY to announce that OPPO 103D can use subtitle srt files from a usb stick, though none of the subtitles I found are properly sync'd to the Eva blu-ray box so I will need to resync everything, but this makes me very happy Also I run a 5.1 setup through a 3.1 sound bar and LR and RR speakers, the codec for the bluray is LPCM but Im getting no audio from the center channel on 2 different tvs with similar surround sound setups, does anyone get a center channel use for those that have the Blu-ray box when listening in 5.1? Last edited by King Crimson; 09-03-2021 at 09:18 PM.

09-01-2021, 05:58 PM	#5305
Catbug Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2021 4K collection:400 Blu-ray collection:1302 DVD collection:477 Digital collection:45 iTunes collection:5 Prime collection:2	Does anybody know if the classic or official dubs have English closed captioning? I have a slight hearing impairment so I often leave subtitles on. It’s so annoying though when I’m watching dubbed anime and the only available English subtitles only work with the Japanese track…

09-02-2021, 01:15 AM	#5309
The Collector FX Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2019 Location:Utah 4K collection:13 Blu-ray collection:639 DVD collection:394 Trading Score:6	Looks like Anime LTD freed up some stock from cancelled pre-orders.

09-03-2021, 01:01 AM	#5312
Gorgon Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2015 Location:Great White North Trading Score:32	^^ That's....not a small chuck of coin. I sincerely hope you are able to put together the set of your dreams. Sounds like you have the right building blocks at least.

09-03-2021, 01:54 PM	#5313
King Crimson Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2017 Location:Tokyo 4K collection:379 Blu-ray collection:760 DVD collection:47 Trading Score:32	When is FMTTM used in Death?

09-03-2021, 10:48 PM	#5318
Obento Junior Member Member since:Aug 2021	Can't you use the phono outs on the Oppo to feed the individual channels on the soundbar?

09-04-2021, 01:34 AM	#5320
Albie989 Active Member Member since:Nov 2011	To be honest, Spike Spencer's performance turned off on the original dub so I've only ever watched Eva subbed. (full disclosure: my brother owns ADV's Platinum Edition set and the Manga DVDs of the movies) Also, "Fly Me to the Moon" is a song I associate with the franchise but I understand why it's missing.

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