First Blood / Rambo: First Blood Part II / Rambo III 4K UHDs (1982-1988)

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by DMRI2006

just wish they had fixed the audio before releasing it.

Forget it, Jake. It's Studio Canal town.

[Colson]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Forget it, Jake. It's Studio Canal town.

Now there's a movie I would kill to have on 4K UHD.

[PuppetMasterBlu]

Originally Posted by DMRI2006

Just received a review copy of II. The transfer from what I sampled looks nice, but the sole audio option is 5.1 and its the same 5.1 center channel heavy remix from the last Studio Canal release

The disc starts off asking what region you are in (US or Latin America), so does anyone know if the international release is going to have the original 2.0 there? So lame to go to the trouble of producing a UHD only to put the same muffled 5.1 track on it.

Is everything still slanted to one side? The old blu-ray was off center, you could tell by the titles.

[DMRI2006]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Forget it, Jake. It's Studio Canal town.

Yeah, unfortunately...

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by PuppetMasterBlu

Is everything still slanted to one side? The old blu-ray was off center, you could tell by the titles.

The remastered StudioCanal blu-rays from a few years back are corrected, so this should be no different.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by DMRI2006

the sole audio option is 5.1 and its the same 5.1 center channel heavy remix from the last Studio Canal release

Bummer.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

The remastered StudioCanal blu-rays from a few years back are corrected, so this should be no different.

When did they correct the framing for Part II?

[PuppetMasterBlu]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

The remastered StudioCanal blu-rays from a few years back are corrected, so this should be no different.

I was talking about the remastered blu-rays. Part 2 is slanted to one side. You can tell the most during the credits because they aren't centered.

[DMRI2006]

I didn't notice the "off" framing in the remastered Studio Canal BD's, so I will have to really do a comparison (is there a link/post that illustrates it?). One thing I did notice with the UHD is the Tri-Star logo is gone, replaced by Studio Canal's.

Transfer for 2 really looks nice. Less "orangey" than the remastered SC Blu-Rays, really good detail from the sections I checked -- visually I liked what I saw from spending more time with it last night.

On the audio side, I suppose there may be hope that the Euro (UK/France/Germany) release may have the original 2.0 tracks because THE FOG and THEY LIVE's UHDs both do (and they weren't announced to have them). Fingers crossed.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by DMRI2006

the original, proper stereo 2.0 mix

The original proper mix is the 4.2 of the 70MM engagements.
https://www.in70mm.com/library/engag...ambo/index.htm

[DMRI2006]

Is the 2.0 track when played back in surround essentially the 4.2 mix? Short of being able to hear that mix at home, the 2.0 track at least employs discrete, directional activity when properly matrixed in surround. The 5.1 remix folds most of the audio into the center channel. Its not unlistenable but if you have heard the 2.0 surround track you know its not right. Theres hardly any surround activity and many l/r stereo pans are confined to the center instead. It also sounds like the entire dynamic range has been clipped.

[Geoff D]

Pay no attention to Peter, he's just doing his weird thing of ignoring 35mm mixes just because a 70mm mix was available.

[bwshihtzu]

How soon can we expect reviews from Highdefdigest, HTF, Avsforum and Blu-Ray.com?

[indisposed]

Is anyone a little miffed that the old Tri-star ident wasn't included? Seems like there's always some kind of catch with the releases of the Rambo films over the years. Oh well, at least there's one ident there (Studio Canal). The old DVDs instantly started with the explosion at the rock quarry!

[Bourne1886]

Amazon U.K are taking the Michael. First Blood 4k is double the price of America! It’s so expensive being a U.K. customer.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Pay no attention to Peter, he's just doing his weird thing of ignoring 35mm mixes just because a 70mm mix was available.

Well 70MM was the preferred mix since they went through the expense to make 70MM prints just for the sound in the first place.

[indisposed]

Originally Posted by Bourne1886

Amazon U.K are taking the Michael. First Blood 4k is double the price of America! It’s so expensive being a U.K. customer.

Don't get me started.

[foxborough]

Originally Posted by indisposed

Don't get me started.

I went the WOWHD route at £14 each and cancelled my UK order in the end.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by DMRI2006

I didn't notice the "off" framing in the remastered Studio Canal BD's

Only Part II is misframed.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Well 70MM was the preferred mix since they went through the expense to make 70MM prints just for the sound in the first place.

Eh, people aren't asking what's better, they're asking what's the original. As with Atmos, just because it got remixed into 6-track doesn't mean it's the be all and end all of how the movie should sound. A 35mm Lt/Rt mix is just as "original" as your 70mm mix. One or the other is fine by me but I can't stand the way that you sweep the 35mm mixes under the carpet - then again I should really be used to it by now.