Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[veritas]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Well since I don't have iTunes, and only UV Providers I would say the common denominator is iTunes, and that's where the problem lies. My main Providers are Amazon and Vudu, and both are working fine.

That doesn't make any sense. If a person only had itunes and amazon they would have zero problems so by your logic the common denominator would be vudu. Have you made an itunes account to see if itunes is working properly?

Basically their are quite a few vudu specific problems including uhd movies turning into sd movies, sd movies staying sd movies that should upgrade to hd movies, a library collection glitch that shows 34 out of my 260 titles on refresh (noticed personally), movies from movies anywhere transferring to vudu in sd, some movies not transfering to vudu instantly (I think i got them all eventually) and a failure to overwrite purchases to upgrade quality on sd or hd qualitys to the better quality you own. Vudu actually has alot of bugs you may not have noticed them or been affected by them but they are all over the place since movies anywhere started up.

The list of bugs I have seen for itunes would be some movies not transfering to iTunes (instantly they all got their eventually for me) and movies in hd saying they are available in 4k or 4k movies that people got a free upgrade on playing in hd. Itunes actually has a very short list of bugs compared to vudu.

like I said people like to hate on apple but its like apple said free donuts with sprinkles and people are rioting over them running out of sprinkles. The only thing thats sort of broken on apples end is somthing they are giving away for free that vudu is to stingy to do at all.

[The_Donster]

I was wondering if some of the talk would migrate over here from the MA Thread? Up until this point I've used DMA, VUDU and iTunes for my digital needs. I've never had an issue with any of them in the past. DMA ported my Disney/Marvel films over to Amazon early on. Now with MA, I've got a few more options now, but will most likely stick with redeeming in either iTunes and VUDU depending on the benefits of either. Then just let them port to the other two. As far as physical needs, I pick up what I know I'm going to watch on a normal basis. Otherwise I buy a code off someone on the forum and call it a day. I don't worry about all this gloom and doom some of you do depending on what side of the format pendulum you are on. I've been around long enough to realize that there will always be a need for both as long as they are supported. Which is what makes both of them so damn competitive.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by The_Donster

I was wondering if some of the talk would migrate over here from the MA Thread? Up until this point I've used DMA, VUDU and iTunes for my digital needs. I've never had an issue with any of them in the past. DMA ported my Disney/Marvel films over to Amazon early on. Now with MA, I've got a few more options now, but will most likely stick with redeeming in either iTunes and VUDU depending on the benefits of either. Then just let them port to the other two. As far as physical needs, I pick up what I know I'm going to watch on a normal basis. Otherwise I buy a code off someone on the forum and call it a day. I don't worry about all this gloom and doom some of you do depending on what side of the format pendulum you are on. I've been around long enough to realize that there will always be a need for both as long as they are supported. Which is what makes both of them so damn competitive.

The key phrase being ‘as long as they are supported’. 3D has enough of a niche following to maintain a market and a profit even if it’s only going to be a small market. The industry isnt interested. They have their own agenda. That could easily apply to Digital HD OR disc going forward if either starts to drop dramatically.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Well since I don't have iTunes, and only UV Providers I would say the common denominator is iTunes, and that's where the problem lies. My main Providers are Amazon and Vudu, and both are working fine.

Apple are at a disadvantage because of the industry having a shit fit about them dominating the media scene. If codes went away it would be ITunes or Amazon, it’s that simple. The internet is full of people saying Vudu is full of artefacts and suffers on a projector. Hardly the exciting future for purists. I will stick to 4K disc thanks with one time rentals coming from ITunes for films I can’t get hold of on 4K/Blu-ray.

[ArmyOfDarknessAW]

This topic was started 10 years ago and the same arguments go on and on and on and on and on.

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[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by ArmyOfDarknessAW

This topic was started 10 years ago and the same arguments go on and on and on and on and on.

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No one is forcing you to read the thread.

[ArmyOfDarknessAW]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

No one is forcing you to read the thread.

Thanks for the insight...I was completely aware of that.

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[master gandhi]

Originally Posted by ArmyOfDarknessAW

This topic was started 10 years ago and the same arguments go on and on and on and on and on.

This thread was started 2 1/2 years ago, not 10 years ago. A lot has changed since then, and that really wasn’t that long ago. I’d say this topic has stayed somewhat fresh because of new developments that can inspire new points to make on each side of the argument.

There was a time that I was opposed to digital, and adamant about disc. Now I still recognize the importance of disc and its quality, but I find the quality and versatility of digital to be leaps and bounds beyond where it was years ago. I used to equate digital to being portable (for mobile devices). I never considered that you could watch it via an app on a TV until a few years ago. That changed everything for me.

[ArmyOfDarknessAW]

Originally Posted by master gandhi

This thread was started 2 1/2 years ago, not 10 years ago. A lot has changed since then, and that really wasn’t that long ago. I’d say this topic has stayed somewhat fresh because of new developments that can inspire new points to make on each side of the argument.

There was a time that I was opposed to digital, and adamant about disc. Now I still recognize the importance of disc and its quality, but I find the quality and versatility of digital to be leaps and bounds beyond where it was years ago. I used to equate digital to being portable (for mobile devices). I never considered that you could watch it via an app on a TV until a few years ago. That changed everything for me.

Point taken on the time. Complete F up on me. I use Tapatalk which aggregated all the current topics. I may have clicked another topic that was 10 years old thinking it was this. Completely my mistake...carry on.

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[dublinbluray108]

I found out from an Irish news service today that DisneyLife has been available in the Republic of Ireland since the 10th of October. Irish residents pay a subscription of €7 a month. If people sign up to the app they will have access to a large range of movies, TV-shows & books from the Disney Catalogue.

There are some restrictions in the service though which most notably includes a lack of full support for Chromecast. The lack of support from it arises when you can only stream in English only & also no subtitles are available for the content. Another issue with Chromecast is that you can't stream in HD at all; it's streaming from DisneyLife is available in SD only.

The content is also restricted to only family-friendly content when you set up for a Irish DisneyLife account. That means no Marvel content or Star Wars movies for a lot of the older fan bases are available on the Irish service.

https://www.thejournal.ie/disneylife...38616-Oct2017/

Would these features be exactly the same for DisneyLife in the UK?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by dublinbluray108

I found out from an Irish news service today that DisneyLife has been available in the Republic of Ireland since the 10th of October. Irish residents pay a subscription of €7 a month. If people sign up to the app they will have access to a large range of movies, TV-shows & books from the Disney Catalogue.

There are some restrictions in the service though which most notably includes a lack of full support for Chromecast. The lack of support from it arises when you can only stream in English only & also no subtitles are available for the content. Another issue with Chromecast is that you can't stream in HD at all; it's streaming from DisneyLife is available in SD only.

The content is also restricted to only family-friendly content when you set up for a Irish DisneyLife account. That means no Marvel content or Star Wars movies for a lot of the older fan bases are available on the Irish service.

https://www.thejournal.ie/disneylife...38616-Oct2017/

Would these features be exactly the same for DisneyLife in the UK?

It’s available for Apple TV (proper app) Fire Stick, Fire box, Android tv but not a Roku yet. I believe it is restricted to family friendly stuff but I feel this is a test bed for a fully loaded subscription service which (imo) will include the latest Marvel and Star Wars stuff. I think Disney virtually confirmed it anyway several weeks ago.

That’s all UK stuff. If the Irish version differs, I dare say it will catch up soon.

By the way, I am not certain of the Chrome Cast stuff. I wasn’t aware of any restrictions.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Well since I don't have iTunes, and only UV Providers I would say the common denominator is iTunes, and that's where the problem lies. My main Providers are Amazon and Vudu, and both are working fine.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Apple are at a disadvantage because of the industry having a shit fit about them dominating the media scene. If codes went away it would be ITunes or Amazon, it’s that simple. The internet is full of people saying Vudu is full of artefacts and suffers on a projector. Hardly the exciting future for purists. I will stick to 4K disc thanks with one time rentals coming from ITunes for films I can’t get hold of on 4K/Blu-ray.

Well on my Sony UHD TV Streaming from Vudu is outstanding with no artefacts. Now with MA it's a toss up on where to watch my Movies. Amazon and Vudu were my main Providers, But now with MA, Sony Ultra, YouTube, Crackle, FandangoNow, and the list goes on and on. There is so much Streaming Content that I just see the Disc slowly fading away. The only reason I buy Disc anymore is for the Digital Copy, whether with Code or D2D. UV Codes are fading, but now with MA maybe the Digital Code will be rejuvenated.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Well on my Sony UHD TV Streaming from Vudu is outstanding with no artefacts. Now with MA it's a toss up on where to watch my Movies. Amazon and Vudu were my main Providers, But now with MA, Sony Ultra, YouTube, Crackle, FandangoNow, and the list goes on and on. There is so much Streaming Content that I just see the Disc slowly fading away. The only reason I buy Disc anymore is for the Digital Copy, whether with Code or D2D. UV Codes are fading, but now with MA maybe the Digital Code will be rejuvenated.

The Digital code that comes with a disc you mean? That one?

Also, I wouldn’t get too carried away with your tv’s apps. Don’t forget, they all need constant updates which don’t always happen with the newer boys on the block. You would be better off with a Roku or even better, APPLE TV!

By the way, if you are getting excited about YouTube and Crackle supplying your 4K goodness, maybe you are better off sticking with streaming.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Well on my Sony UHD TV Streaming from Vudu is outstanding with no artefacts. Now with MA it's a toss up on where to watch my Movies. Amazon and Vudu were my main Providers, But now with MA, Sony Ultra, YouTube, Crackle, FandangoNow, and the list goes on and on. There is so much Streaming Content that I just see the Disc slowly fading away. The only reason I buy Disc anymore is for the Digital Copy, whether with Code or D2D. UV Codes are fading, but now with MA maybe the Digital Code will be rejuvenated.

Movies Anywhere is seven years too late. This is what UV needed to be and wasn’t. The ship has sailed.

[Steedeel]

Right, I’m off again guys. If you don’t hear from me have a great Halloween and then Christmas! Santa is bringing me 60 Blu-rays!

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Well on my Sony UHD TV Streaming from Vudu is outstanding with no artefacts. Now with MA it's a toss up on where to watch my Movies. Amazon and Vudu were my main Providers, But now with MA, Sony Ultra, YouTube, Crackle, FandangoNow, and the list goes on and on. There is so much Streaming Content that I just see the Disc slowly fading away. The only reason I buy Disc anymore is for the Digital Copy, whether with Code or D2D. UV Codes are fading, but now with MA maybe the Digital Code will be rejuvenated.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The Digital code that comes with a disc you mean? That one?

Also, I wouldn’t get too carried away with your tv’s apps. Don’t forget, they all need constant updates which don’t always happen with the newer boys on the block. You would be better off with a Roku or even better, APPLE TV!

By the way, if you are getting excited about YouTube and Crackle supplying your 4K goodness, maybe you are better off sticking with streaming.

For now the Digital Code that comes with a Disc keeps the pricing low, and then I could sell the Disc to people like you but you guys want it dirt cheap. As for updates, Sony is doing a great job remember I'm Hard Wired so updates are no problem. To me Roku is a downgrade, and I would never go to The Dark Side and get an Apple TV. I would rather go with a Panasonic or Oppo Player that has Streaming Features. As for 4K Content, I use Sony Ultra or Amazon.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Movies Anywhere is seven years too late. This is what UV needed to be and wasn’t. The ship has sailed.

MA is what UV has evolved into, the ship has just started. Digital HD is on a roll now, and there is no stopping it!

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Right, I’m off again guys. If you don’t hear from me have a great Halloween and then Christmas! Santa is bringing me 60 Blu-rays!

Don't go, things are just starting to spice up again but I guess you like to leave on what you think is a High Note!

[wolfpackTri]

Originally Posted by alchav21

MA is what UV has evolved into, the ship has just started. Digital HD is on a roll now, and there is no stopping it!



Don't go, things are just starting to spice up again but I guess you like to leave on what you think is a High Note!

He's leaving because no one will agree with his views.

[RyRyMcNizzy13]

For me personally I like owning Physical because you know what your getting at all times and can play it at all times. I also have a large digital collection and tend to use that much more but basically every physical movie out now has a digital copy with it so I feel like I can have both for the price of 1.

I’ll tell you this though, with ALOT of my older movies on Vudu and iTunes I usually will wait to double dip into 4k until the price is right. I’ll still buy new movies like Baby Driver and such but when movies like Warrior, or Dark Knight Trilogy release I’ll wait until I like the price since I already have them in my digital collection.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by wolfpackTri

He's leaving because no one will agree with his views.

Rubbish, if I did that I wouldn’t even be posting in any thread! . It doesn’t matter either way. I predicted the UV situation a long time ago. You guys pretend that wasn’t the case. Anyway, laters for real.