Dark Force Entertainment Discussion Thread - Page 281 - Blu-ray Forum

Hedji · 04-21-2019, 02:28 PM

I don't think most are complaining about the gimmick. My earlier posts are very supportive of the light up feature.

I think the complaints come on the heels of the sideshow barker marketing of Screams of a Winter Night and the choppy, deliberate sales strategy of stimulating the collectors' Pavlovian response to perceived, yet engineered, rarity.

Customers are anticipating a similar approach of fueling an unnatural compulsion to scramble over (let's be honest) a ho-hum film from the twilight years of 80s horror.

Honestly, I can just imagine what Dark Force's facebook hype posts would look like when viewed through a pair of They Live sunglasses.

True_Story1011 · 04-21-2019, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by True_Story1011

Are we looking at a June/July release for this Dead Pit?

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Originally Posted by CODE RED DVD

worst cheap offwr for an expensive LITE box case.

DEAL IS CANCELLED.

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Originally Posted by barsalou

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this mean? Is it in relation to Dead Pit?

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Originally Posted by Dark Force

He was mad that people were lowballing the price of Dead Pit with the custom box where the eyes light up. Don't worry about it. We are still moving forward with the release.

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Originally Posted by CODE RED DVD

still moving? Being ready for May is impossible.

no contract signed.

Watching a company who have close connections argue publicly is troubling.

Babylon's fall?

Stay tuned to WW(d)F for all the updates!

Antemasque · 04-21-2019, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by True_Story1011

Watching a company who have close connections argue publicly is troubling.

Babylon's fall?

Stay tuned to WW(d)F for all the updates!

They're probably doing it because they think it'll drive sales up. It's the same game over and over again.

I don't like banana man but I'll still respect and support him. I don't like the dark force guy and i don't respect nor will i ever support him. It sucks but thats the way it is. I just can't get over his childish games, his attitude towards customers and the way he runs a business. It's simple to not buy something and it's hard to earn the trust and support of your customers. I thought after the constant backlash he'd change his ways but it seems like he fuels off of it.

I do find it funny that they don't get as many comments on facebook and some of their stuff is taking longer to sell out as compared to a few months ago. I can't even feel bad. You'd think the dude would change the way he does things by now except he seems to be so full of himself he cant stop.

Marsupial Werewolf · 04-22-2019, 07:58 PM

Love the idea of doing DEAD PIT with a retro style box complete with light-up eyes.

Hopefully Dave won't play availability games with this. Just put it up and let it sell, dude. It's a great idea and I hope it's a big success for you.

Coatchief · 04-23-2019, 07:41 AM

I finally got and watched my copy of The Last Victim/Forced Entry on the weekend.

Is The Last Victim cut on this BD even the same as the original film that was released in 1975? This was my first time watching and it still seemed like it had been re-cut and the change in quality really threw me off. The majority was very nice looking but It still looked like material (some different shots/angles) that perhaps they re-shot after filming initially wrapped was inserted back in 2008 when it says these 2 cuts were created.

I definitely enjoyed The Last Victim over Forced Entry as released on this BD. Anyone who has watched the different cuts on this, is it worth the effort to track down the 88 minute version of Forced Entry for further comparison?

Zarak · 04-23-2019, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Coatchief

Anyone who has watched the different cuts on this, is it worth the effort to track down the 88 minute version of Forced Entry for further comparison?

John Lyons did a pretty extensive comparison of the cuts earlier in this thread:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=5504

RickWJ324 · 04-23-2019, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by True_Story1011

Watching a company who have close connections argue publicly is troubling.

Babylon's fall?

Stay tuned to WW(d)F for all the updates!

What's the deal with this back-and-forth between the two? I'm familiar with Code Red and have purchased from them, but I gather DEAD PIT is a Code Red title but offered through DF (which I've never purchased from).

I'm not familiar with this movie but I'd like to grab it. Is their arguing cause for alarm?

PS...not interested in the gimmick box btw. If offered with or without it, I'll take "without" especially if it inflates the price.

Thomas Irwin · 04-23-2019, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RickWJ324

What's the deal with this back-and-forth between the two? I'm familiar with Code Red and have purchased from them, but I gather DEAD PIT is a Code Red title but offered through DF (which I've never purchased from).

I'm not familiar with this movie but I'd like to grab it. Is their arguing cause for alarm?

PS...not interested in the gimmick box btw. If offered with or without it, I'll take "without" especially if it inflates the price.

I wouldn't worry too much yet. It seems a bit like the Bad Cop, Worse Cop routine from Tango & Cash.

RickWJ324 · 04-23-2019, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Irwin

I wouldn't worry too much yet. It seems a bit like the Bad Cop, Worse Cop routine from Tango & Cash.

What exactly is the fighting about? Just curious...

Thomas Irwin · 04-23-2019, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RickWJ324

What exactly is the fighting about? Just curious...

It started with people proffering what Bill felt would be low offers for the release, given the cost that would be involved in manufacturing the unique slipcover, and perhaps other expenses. He left a somewhat cryptic message stating "Deal canceled." Dark Force came on to say that it's still going forth, wherein Code Red chimed in, stating that all the details hadn't been finalized, and that it would be nigh impossible to get it out within the initially projected timeframe. From what I can gather.

RickWJ324 · 04-23-2019, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Irwin

It started with people proffering what Bill felt would be low offers for the release, given the cost that would be involved in manufacturing the unique slipcover, and perhaps other expenses. He left a somewhat cryptic message stating "Deal canceled." Dark Force came on to say that it's still going forth, wherein Code Red chimed in, stating that all the details hadn't been finalized, and that it would be nigh impossible to get it out within the initially projected timeframe. From what I can gather.

Haha...

Braktastic · 04-23-2019, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Irwin

It started with people proffering what Bill felt would be low offers for the release, given the cost that would be involved in manufacturing the unique slipcover, and perhaps other expenses. He left a somewhat cryptic message stating "Deal canceled." Dark Force came on to say that it's still going forth, wherein Code Red chimed in, stating that all the details hadn't been finalized, and that it would be nigh impossible to get it out within the initially projected timeframe. From what I can gather.

trouble in "paradise"?

stinky bean · 04-23-2019, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarak

John Lyons did a pretty extensive comparison of the cuts earlier in this thread:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=5504

Some helpful info and version comparison stuff here (not some screen caps are NOT safe for work):

http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/c...Blu-ray-Review

whedon · 04-23-2019, 03:44 PM

This was one of Bill's most recent posts in the CR thread:
"DEAD PIT is property of CODE RED DVD
DEAL is not signed or paid.
Its up for grabs of any one has money to pay"

So basically if someone wants they can sweep in and get Dead Pit from df.

Hedji · 04-23-2019, 10:55 PM

So I guess, interpreting Facebook posts, now it's Mirror Mirror that will use the light up LED technology on its case.

Don't know if Dead Pit is going to be through Dark Force, but they seem determined to use the light up feature any way they can.

Which is fine and good, but what I really need to know is, will it be a MAJOR COLLECTOR'S ITEM????

Antemasque · 04-23-2019, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hedji

So I guess, interpreting Facebook posts, now it's Mirror Mirror that will use the light up LED technology on its case.

Don't know if Dead Pit is going to be through Dark Force, but they seem determined to use the light up feature any way they can.

Which is fine and good, but what I really need to know is, will it be a MAJOR COLLECTOR'S ITEM????

Light up instead of making the mirror reflective? Missed opportunity.

Hedji · 04-24-2019, 12:17 AM

I could be remembering wrong, but didn't the original Mirror Mirror cover have a hologram? It was totally around that time when holograms were all the rage on comic book covers and such.

frakking toaster · 04-24-2019, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedji

So I guess, interpreting Facebook posts, now it's Mirror Mirror that will use the light up LED technology on its case.

Don't know if Dead Pit is going to be through Dark Force, but they seem determined to use the light up feature any way they can.

Which is fine and good, but what I really need to know is, will it be a MAJOR COLLECTOR'S ITEM????

It'll be the fastest selling, most talked about cult tile of ALL TIME.

gbm82 · 04-24-2019, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedji

I could be remembering wrong, but didn't the original Mirror Mirror cover have a hologram? It was totally around that time when holograms were all the rage on comic book covers and such.

He said on FB that it'd already been done...

Ruined · 04-24-2019, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gbm82

He said on FB that it'd already been done...

Looking at the mirror mirror art DF has been posting I could imagine how the light up eyes would look cool with the face in the mirror

04-21-2019, 02:28 PM	#5601
Hedji Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2015 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:944 DVD collection:73 Trading Score:17	I don't think most are complaining about the gimmick. My earlier posts are very supportive of the light up feature. I think the complaints come on the heels of the sideshow barker marketing of Screams of a Winter Night and the choppy, deliberate sales strategy of stimulating the collectors' Pavlovian response to perceived, yet engineered, rarity. Customers are anticipating a similar approach of fueling an unnatural compulsion to scramble over (let's be honest) a ho-hum film from the twilight years of 80s horror. Honestly, I can just imagine what Dark Force's facebook hype posts would look like when viewed through a pair of They Live sunglasses.

04-22-2019, 07:58 PM	#5604
Marsupial Werewolf Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2012 4K collection:806 Blu-ray collection:4368 DVD collection:295 Digital collection:53 Trading Score:1	Love the idea of doing DEAD PIT with a retro style box complete with light-up eyes. Hopefully Dave won't play availability games with this. Just put it up and let it sell, dude. It's a great idea and I hope it's a big success for you.

04-23-2019, 07:41 AM	#5605
Coatchief Special Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2018 Location:Canada 4K collection:285 Blu-ray collection:3922 DVD collection:933	I finally got and watched my copy of The Last Victim/Forced Entry on the weekend. Is The Last Victim cut on this BD even the same as the original film that was released in 1975? This was my first time watching and it still seemed like it had been re-cut and the change in quality really threw me off. The majority was very nice looking but It still looked like material (some different shots/angles) that perhaps they re-shot after filming initially wrapped was inserted back in 2008 when it says these 2 cuts were created. I definitely enjoyed The Last Victim over Forced Entry as released on this BD. Anyone who has watched the different cuts on this, is it worth the effort to track down the 88 minute version of Forced Entry for further comparison?

04-23-2019, 03:44 PM	#5614
whedon Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2011 4K collection:493 Blu-ray collection:6219 Digital collection:143 iTunes collection:34 Prime collection:23	This was one of Bill's most recent posts in the CR thread: "DEAD PIT is property of CODE RED DVD DEAL is not signed or paid. Its up for grabs of any one has money to pay" So basically if someone wants they can sweep in and get Dead Pit from df.

04-23-2019, 10:55 PM	#5615
Hedji Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2015 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:944 DVD collection:73 Trading Score:17	So I guess, interpreting Facebook posts, now it's Mirror Mirror that will use the light up LED technology on its case. Don't know if Dead Pit is going to be through Dark Force, but they seem determined to use the light up feature any way they can. Which is fine and good, but what I really need to know is, will it be a MAJOR COLLECTOR'S ITEM????

04-24-2019, 12:17 AM	#5617
Hedji Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2015 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:944 DVD collection:73 Trading Score:17	I could be remembering wrong, but didn't the original Mirror Mirror cover have a hologram? It was totally around that time when holograms were all the rage on comic book covers and such.

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