2013 Oscar Discussion Discussion Thread

[Shanester]

I think Leo suffers from the Tom Cruise syndrome when it comes to Academy members.

Yes he's a big star and his films make a sh!tload of money but can we really give this guy an Oscar?

[runnersdialzero]

If the performance is good enough. Yes. Cruise should have won for Magnolia. Leo could have easily won for Gilbert Grape.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by runnersdialzero

If the performance is good enough. Yes. Cruise should have won for Magnolia. Leo could have easily won for Gilbert Grape.

Cruise has been nominated, what three times now? Or only twice? Dicaprio was nominated for Gilbert Grape.

[runnersdialzero]

Cruise for Magnolia, Born on the Fourth of July and Jerry Maguire. DiCaprio for Gilbert Grape and The Aviator I think

[Taipan]

Originally Posted by RJ Smoove

Great watch. Thanks for sharing.

I'm going to plow through the rest of the videos, with actors, writers, etc.

I would like to see the actors interview if its available.

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by runnersdialzero

Cruise for Magnolia, Born on the Fourth of July and Jerry Maguire. DiCaprio for Gilbert Grape and The Aviator I think

DiCaprio for Blood Diamond as well. Personally I think he should have been up for Revolutionary Road too, I thought his performance, whilst not showy, was the srongest of the film. Even above Michael Shannon.

[runnersdialzero]

Agreed about Revolutionary Road. Winslet has been so good in their two movies that he is really overshadowed. Because he was great in both.

DiCaprio will win one day. Patience is key. Just look at Scorsese and Michael Caine.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by runnersdialzero

Agreed about Revolutionary Road. Winslet has been so good in their two movies that he is really overshadowed. Because he was great in both.

DiCaprio will win one day. Patience is key. Just look at Scorsese and Michael Caine.

Even though I'm not a big Leo DiCaprio fan, but he gave a superb performance in The Basketball Diaries.

[LaNsLyDe]

i thought for sure i'd see cloud atlas on here

guess it wins "best sleeper"

[Kevin Holly]

It really makes you wonder if there was any point to expanding the Best Picture nominee field, if they are essentially automatically going to pick one of the ones also nominated for Best Director anyways.

Also, I don't know if it's right that the first film in 31 years to grab all four acting nominations is Silver Linings Playbook. Maybe it is right though.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly

It really makes you wonder if there was any point to expanding the Best Picture nominee field, if they are essentially automatically going to pick one of the ones also nominated for Best Director anyways.

Also, I don't know if it's right that the first film in 31 years to grab all four acting nominations is Silver Linings Playbook. Maybe it is right though.

Not really De Niro only really has one big emotional scene, and for the rest of the film he's De Niro-ing it. Didn't even think about Weaver getting nominated. They're both good, but there were more better suited competitors in both categories.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly

It really makes you wonder if there was any point to expanding the Best Picture nominee field, if they are essentially automatically going to pick one of the ones also nominated for Best Director anyways.

Also, I don't know if it's right that the first film in 31 years to grab all four acting nominations is Silver Linings Playbook. Maybe it is right though.

The point was to draw in more viewers. I get what you're saying. But the ratings for the Oscars have been declining, so they opened up the Best Picture category hoping to lure more film fans.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

The point was to draw in more viewers. I get what you're saying. But the ratings for the Oscars have been declining, so they opened up the Best Picture category hoping to lure more film fans.

Well, it wasn't just that--Ohh, HOW many years have I been explaining this?:
It started rather coincidentally the year after everyone grumbled that Slumdog Millionaire won for 2008, even though no one was particularly excited it being "all they had" in the lineup, followed by wondering why Pixar's Wall-E "had" to be exiled off to its annual pickup of Best Animated Feature. Gee, wouldn't it have been neato if it'd been Wall-E versus Slumdog?--We'd have tuned in to watch that! Too bad there're probably rules against that...Uh, what're the rules against it again, anyway?
The next year, they decided to (ahem-ahem) "Up" the ante by trying to follow the Golden Globes' lead for nominating Comedies and Musicals and getting "more popular mainstream movies" into the lineup...Anyone want to hazard a guess which mainstream movies they had in mind?

In 2010, Toy Story 3 was considered one of the Top Five runners, alongside Hurt Locker and Social Network, and finally "broke the glass ceiling" where those same '08 complainers were concerned.
Last year and this year, Best Animated has felt the loss of Pixar, with only Cars 2 and Brave in the running, and coincidentally enough, those same years...the Academy has started saying "Well, maybe we don't need ten nominees, we could do eight or nine... "

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by EricJ

Well, it wasn't just that--Ohh, HOW many years have I been explaining this?:
It started rather coincidentally the year after everyone grumbled that Slumdog Millionaire won for 2008, even though no one was particularly excited it being "all they had" in the lineup, followed by wondering why Pixar's Wall-E "had" to be exiled off to its annual pickup of Best Animated Feature. Gee, wouldn't it have been neato if it'd been Wall-E versus Slumdog?--We'd have tuned in to watch that! Too bad there're probably rules against that...Uh, what're the rules against it again, anyway?
The next year, they decided to (ahem-ahem) "Up" the ante by trying to follow the Golden Globes' lead for nominating Comedies and Musicals and getting "more popular mainstream movies" into the lineup...Anyone want to hazard a guess which mainstream movies they had in mind?

In 2010, Toy Story 3 was considered one of the Top Five runners, alongside Hurt Locker and Social Network, and finally "broke the glass ceiling" where those same '08 complainers were concerned.
Last year and this year, Best Animated has felt the loss of Pixar, with only Cars 2 and Brave in the running, and coincidentally enough, those same years...the Academy has started saying "Well, maybe we don't need ten nominees, we could do eight or nine... "

Not Pixar...The Dark Knight. After the Dark Knight snub, that's when they went to ten (or nine or whatever)

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Not Pixar...The Dark Knight. After the Dark Knight snub, that's when they went to ten (or nine or whatever)

You seriously think the Acadmy are worried about what the Internet think about The Dark Knight

[Kevin Holly]

Originally Posted by EricJ

[Show spoiler]Well, it wasn't just that--Ohh, HOW many years have I been explaining this?:
It started rather coincidentally the year after everyone grumbled that Slumdog Millionaire won for 2008, even though no one was particularly excited it being "all they had" in the lineup, followed by wondering why Pixar's Wall-E "had" to be exiled off to its annual pickup of Best Animated Feature. Gee, wouldn't it have been neato if it'd been Wall-E versus Slumdog?--We'd have tuned in to watch that! Too bad there're probably rules against that...Uh, what're the rules against it again, anyway?
The next year, they decided to (ahem-ahem) "Up" the ante by trying to follow the Golden Globes' lead for nominating Comedies and Musicals and getting "more popular mainstream movies" into the lineup...Anyone want to hazard a guess which mainstream movies they had in mind?

In 2010, Toy Story 3 was considered one of the Top Five runners, alongside Hurt Locker and Social Network, and finally "broke the glass ceiling" where those same '08 complainers were concerned.
Last year and this year, Best Animated has felt the loss of Pixar, with only Cars 2 and Brave in the running, and coincidentally enough, those same years...the Academy has started saying "Well, maybe we don't need ten nominees, we could do eight or nine... "

All true, but my point stands. None of the "extra" nominees have anything more than a trivial chance at winning.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Foggy

You seriously think the Acadmy are worried about what the Internet think about The Dark Knight

No, ABC was concerned about declining ratings, and there were many complaints about the exclusion of the Dark Knight. So the Academy expanded the field, hoping the change from 5 to 10 would draw more viewers. That's what happened. It wasn't about Pixar and Wall*E, it was about ratings, and complaints about the exclusion of the Dark Knight in the Best Picture category.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Foggy

You seriously think the Acadmy are worried about what the Internet think about The Dark Knight

Hands up, those kids five years later who remember Dark Knight getting a Best Picture nomination when it didn't.
Now, hands up, those kids five years later who remember Wall-E getting a Best Picture nomination when it didn't.

...I hope to rest my case about Committee motivations.
(Don't mess with the Pixarista Oscar voters, they've been nonstop pushing for a Best Picture win since Toy Story 2. They campaigned to give a Best Actor to "Ratatouille" just to hope to get a Picture nom the year after, how scary is that? )

[tommyboy81]

Originally Posted by Taipan

I would like to see the actors interview if its available.

Here's the newest ones from the actors. You can find last years too, with actors and Directors.

I would post the writers one on here but it was really boring and the first 15mins was the interviewer focusing and picking apart Mark Boal and his Zero Dark Thirty script.

The Actors: Full Uncensored Interview - YouTube

The Actresses: Full Uncensored Interview - YouTube

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

No, ABC was concerned about declining ratings, and there were many complaints about the exclusion of the Dark Knight. So the Academy expanded the field, hoping the change from 5 to 10 would draw more viewers. That's what happened. It wasn't about Pixar and Wall*E, it was about ratings, and complaints about the exclusion of the Dark Knight in the Best Picture category.

Proved success as well didn't ... Oh wait...