The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

[MrHT]

Just blind bought this and watched it. I liked it, but am really confused by the ending.

[Show spoiler]Does Batman live or die? I was convinced he died until I saw Alfred at the restaurant. Not sure if that scene was real or imaginative.

[Mandalorian]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Just blind bought this and watched it. I liked it, but am really confused by the ending.

[Show spoiler]Does Batman live or die? I was convinced he died until I saw Alfred at the restaurant. Not sure if that scene was real or imaginative.

[Show spoiler]He lives. Batman as a symbol is dead, but Bruce is alive.

[joenostalgia23]

Originally Posted by RJ Smoove

[Show spoiler]He lives. Batman as a symbol is dead, but Bruce is alive.

[Show spoiler] he's still alive as a symbol as well. That's what JGL was preparing himself for. Maybe he won't call himself batman, but they have a new bag symbol and people will always remember what he did

[V400]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Just blind bought this and watched it. I liked it, but am really confused by the ending.

[Show spoiler]Does Batman live or die? I was convinced he died until I saw Alfred at the restaurant. Not sure if that scene was real or imaginative.

[Show spoiler]further evidence that he lived was the discovery that The Bat's auto-pilot was fixed and the missing pearl neck-less

[Mandalorian]

Originally Posted by joenostalgia23

[Show spoiler] he's still alive as a symbol as well. That's what JGL was preparing himself for. Maybe he won't call himself batman, but they have a new bag symbol and people will always remember what he did

I meant the

[Show spoiler]Batman as a person is dead, as far as Gotham knows, not his symbol.

[joenostalgia23]

Originally Posted by RJ Smoove

I meant the

[Show spoiler]Batman as a person is dead, as far as Gotham knows, not his symbol.

That's true.

[Show spoiler] And the only people who know that Bruce is alive are the people who knew he was The Batman

[Extremis]

[Show spoiler]Blake will become the Batman. Why would anyone think he's actually Robin of Nightwing?

[joenostalgia23]

Originally Posted by ryan4butler

[Show spoiler]Blake will become the Batman. Why would anyone think he's actually Robin of Nightwing?

[Show spoiler]Yeah they had his name be Robin as a little joke. But it seems clear that he's just going to use whatever Bruce left behind, which is all Batman stuff. Unless Bruce Wayne decided to screw him over, and only left behind a shiny yellow cape, a bright red vest and some green shorts.

[Extremis]

Originally Posted by joenostalgia23

[Show spoiler]Yeah they had his name be Robin as a little joke. But it seems clear that he's just going to use whatever Bruce left behind, which is all Batman stuff. Unless Bruce Wayne decided to screw him over, and only left behind a shiny yellow cape, a bright red vest and some green shorts.

LOL

[Show spoiler]And the direct title card after JGL rising is kind of obviouse who he's going to be and has just become.

[unsung122212]

Originally Posted by ryan4butler

LOL

[Show spoiler]And the direct title card after JGL rising is kind of obviouse who he's going to be and has just become.

[Show spoiler]Also, don't forget that he fixed the bat signal on the police station roof. Thus, indicating that batman will live, but be slightly different since jgl will take the helm. Almost forgot, Nolan actually tells us in an interview that Bruce does live and is with Selina at the end.

[Extremis]

Originally Posted by unsung122212

[Show spoiler]Also, don't forget that he fixed the bat signal on the police station roof. Thus, indicating that batman will live, but be slightly different since jgl will take the helm. Almost forgot, Nolan actually tells us in an interview that Bruce does live and is with Selina at the end.

Yes, I know.

[Show spoiler]people to this day actually think Bruce is dead and Alfred is just dreaming :|

[unsung122212]

Originally Posted by ryan4butler

Yes, I know.

[Show spoiler]people to this day actually think Bruce is dead and Alfred is just dreaming :|

That was what I was wondering at first, but realized that wasn't the case.

[Early Memphis]

I've never seen so many spoiler tags in all my life.

[Show spoiler]Actually, I've never understood the whole question. Batman/Bruce being dead had about as much basis as the whole "Paul is Dead" fiasco. I first saw the conjecture here in this thread long before I got to see the film, but once I saw the Blu-ray, there was simply no question but that Bruce & the "new" Batman (ugh) had survived.

[Mandalorian]

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

I've never seen so many spoiler tags in all my life.

Thank the maker some people on this site still understand their purpose.

[GuruAskew]

So I watched the trilogy yesterday. The shifting IMAX ratios are far more arbitrary, gimmicky and distracting than any 3D movie I've ever experienced.

TDKR being the least-engaging of the 3 movies certainly doesn't help, especially when there's a greater percentage of IMAX footage in TDKR.

It quickly became a game of spotting the aspect ratio change from cut-to-cut and there are some hilariously-underwhelming IMAX choices. It would be one thing if IMAX was used uninterrupted but there are bizarre things like 35mm shots surrounded by IMAX footage and vice versa and before you know it you're laughing about how Nolan thought it was a good idea to film Christian Bale on a staircase or Anne Hathaway entering a modest living room or Matthew Modine sitting in a car with a large-format camera. It also tends to shoot the non-IMAX scenes in the foot, it's almost as if the films themselves are telling you that the sequence you're watching is "less-than."

The footage itself looks great, much to the detriment of the non-IMAX footage as well.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by ryan4butler

Yes, I know.

[Show spoiler]people to this day actually think Bruce is dead and Alfred is just dreaming :|

[Show spoiler]Well if you watch it again, you see a shot with Batman inside The Bat and then seconds later, it explodes. That's not enough time for Batman to escape even if he did eject and use auto-pilot. It's just not possible. You're talking about a nuclear bomb here! As far as I'm concerned, Batman died! Boo Nolan for killing off an amazing superhero!

[Zen_Amako]

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[SHOCKWAVE6464]

My friend thought of this theory that

[Show spoiler]in the ending, Alfred was coming back to the cafe for his 6th or 7th glass of wine. He then sees a hallucination of Bruce. He then says Blake becomes Robin and forms the Teen Titans.

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by MrHT

[Show spoiler]Well if you watch it again, you see a shot with Batman inside The Bat and then seconds later, it explodes. That's not enough time for Batman to escape even if he did eject and use auto-pilot. It's just not possible. You're talking about a nuclear bomb here! As far as I'm concerned, Batman died! Boo Nolan for killing off an amazing superhero!

Yes, that bit was horridly edited

[Show spoiler] - to get you to think Batman/Bruce died (still - horridly edited). The only rational explanation : BatBruce was controlling a drone from the real BatPlane. If so, a mere mention of having backups of everything earlier would've sufficed to set things up. But, I agree with you : we are talking a nuclear bomb and, as edited, it was absurd.

[Extremis]

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

Yes, that bit was horridly edited

[Show spoiler] - to get you to think Batman/Bruce died (still - horridly edited). The only rational explanation : BatBruce was controlling a drone from the real BatPlane. If so, a mere mention of having backups of everything earlier would've sufficed to set things up. But, I agree with you : we are talking a nuclear bomb and, as edited, it was absurd.

[Show spoiler]Or was it masterful editing or did Bruce actually die?

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