The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

[Cabby]

Originally Posted by GuruAskew

There's no way the climax of Nolan's trilogy will be retconned to a gimmicky Superman crossover. No ****ing way.

I hope this is true but it seriously wouldn't surprise me if Joseph Gordon-Levitt ended up being Batman in the Justice League movie.

Also, what worries me is that fact that Nolan isn't denying that the ending of TDKR is directly a link to the Justice League. He was asked about it and I remember seeing that he simply said "You know I can't answer that" and then smiled. That's hardly a denial. He could have just said "my trilogy stands on it's own feet" but he didn't and that could be a hint that Blake is in fact JL's Batman.

But of course Nolan could be just egging people on.

I hope his trilogy is left alone and has nothing to do with JL. It would, to me, undermine the ending of TDKR (which I thought was a perfect ending to Nolan's masterful Bruce Wayne arc).

[GuruAskew]

I have zero problem with putting JGL in the Justice League movie as Batman.

The way I see it, there have been plenty of Batman movies that deal with Batman's personal side and they don't need to spend precious screentime on Batman in a movie with a whole team of superheroes. This is basically the approach Bruce Timm took on the Justice League cartoons.

If the entire Justice League movie went by without showing Batman unmasked or saying his real name it would be fine by me, and in that case it wouldn't really matter if they cast JGL. It would give audiences the option of interpreting it as a Dark Knight Trilogy connection without compromising the trilogy itself with all this crossover nonsense. And if people wanted to consider JGL was playing a version of Bruce Wayne or if a kid was watching it and had no idea Batman was anything but a guy in a bat costume they could interpret it that way as well.

[Extremis]

Originally Posted by aiman04

My theory, the ending of Man of Steel shows

[Show spoiler]Superman flying to Gotham at the speed of sound, in a wide shot, straight to The Bat a fraction of seconds before the detonation. We see it detonates and fade to black.

We'll see both of them next in Justice League.

Seriously?

[eagleskins]

The countdown to detonation was a huge plot hole. There wouldn't be a set time, and surely not to the second. I was really disappointed in this movie. Nowhere near as good as the previous two.

[joenostalgia23]

Originally Posted by eagleskins

The countdown to detonation was a huge plot hole. There wouldn't be a set time, and surely not to the second. I was really disappointed in this movie. Nowhere near as good as the previous two.

How is that a plot hole?
There was a timer on the bomb. The clock was ticking.

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by joenostalgia23

How is that a plot hole?
There was a timer on the bomb. The clock was ticking.

I think he means that time was running out because the stuff inside was destablizing the longer it was away from the machine that turned the power inside into clean energy, so figuring out the precise second when it would become unstable enough to actually blow is a tad silly. I agree, but I can overlook it.

[Ironhorse75]

Originally Posted by joenostalgia23

How is that a plot hole?
There was a timer on the bomb. The clock was ticking.

People are grossly misusing the term plot hole.

There are a lot of dumb cliche things in this movie, but they aren't plot holes.

If The Godfather came out today, people all over would be crying plothole because we weren't shown how Michael ended up in Italy. Did he teleport? You would think the other families would be monitoring the airports, how did he get over there? Seriously, PLOT HOLE.

[Nuova]

Originally Posted by mzupeman

I think he means that time was running out because the stuff inside was destablizing the longer it was away from the machine that turned the power inside into clean energy, so figuring out the precise second when it would become unstable enough to actually blow is a tad silly. I agree, but I can overlook it.

Every element has a half-life. If you know the half-life, you can find the time until it decomposes completely.

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by Nuova

Every element has a half-life. If you know the half-life, you can find the time until it decomposes completely.

Decomposing, sure, but the exact moment it becomes unstable enough to blow might be trickier, no? Regardless, as I said, not a big deal.

[Geoff D]

Yeah, it's not a massive problem that derails the film, it just a bit odd. The filmmakers did it because it's more dramatic - the bomb cannot be defused unless the core is replaced, unlike a 'regular' bomb countdown that can be stopped by flicking a switch or clipping a wire - but them being able to time the explosion down to the last second is a very clunky way of dealing with it.

[ChrisToad]

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

Communication Breakdown, let's try again : NO special features disc for TDKR will have Spanish subtitles : ninguno, nada. This is true for ALL versions : regular, Best Buy, Target, etc. There are NO Spanish subtitles, me amigo. Lo siento.

P.S. You should delete the post before your last, the one that just says "EDIT" (click on the Edit button and then click Delete).

I'm confused.

On my Bluray bonus disc (bought in the US, BD combo pack)... there is a subtitle selection for Latin Spanish (Also French and B. Portuguese) and it plays Spanish subtitles for all of the special features. Now granted, the packaging only lists English SDH. I included some screen shots for clarification. So, I'm confused with your comment. Or maybe we're talking about 2 different things?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/aplrflngog...3.32%20HDR.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2gph7ofwh1...4.03%20HDR.jpg

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by ChrisToad

I'm confused.
On my Bluray bonus disc (bought in the US, BD combo pack)... there is a subtitle selection for Latin Spanish (Also French and B. Portuguese) and it plays Spanish subtitles for all of the special features. Now granted, the packaging only lists English SDH. I included some screen shots for clarification. So, I'm confused with your comment. Or maybe we're talking about 2 different things?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/aplrflngog...3.32%20HDR.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2gph7ofwh1...4.03%20HDR.jpg

Hey, thank you. Neither my Trilogy (BB) nor the other single Dark Knight discs I owned had any subtitles for the Special Features. Best Buy assured me that they wouldn't delete subtitles on theirs if it was on the original release () and a friend who had two other editions told me no Spanish subtitles. I was just trying to help the guy out. If you're correct, and you seem to be, I hope he catches this.

[llama]

Question: watching the Dark Knight Rises, I found dialogue to be completely indiscernible for, like, the second half of the movie. Is this inherent to the movie's sound design, or the discs' audio track? Though, it's always a possibility that it can be attributed to my less-than-stellar speaker set-up.

[Lantz]

Watched TDKR just now and loved it! Loved Bane, great villain!

PQ was very good in the IMAX scenes, but I felt detail and clarity surprisingly muddy in the regular ones - anyone felt the same?

[Agent Bond]

How Bruce Wayne got back to Gotham is a total plot hole!

[sunnya23]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

How Bruce Wayne got back to Gotham is a total plot hole!

How so? Remember, Bruce Wayne is Batman. He has mastered the art of stealth through League of Shadows training. After getting out of the pit it took him roughly 3 weeks to get back to Gotham. You are telling me he didn't have connections or resources to help him make that journey back to Gotham? Also, I highly doubt every entryway into Gotham was blocked, mainly just the bridges. Bane couldn't have cameras installed on every street of Gotham in addition to his men and the army making sure people got out or in. Also, being Batman I am sure he knows every single crack of Gotham city and knows the most secret paths and ways back to Gotham. After all, Bruce is no ordinary citizen of Gotham, we have seen him in all parts of Gotham throughout this trilogy. It is hardly surprising he got back to Gotham at all actually after thinking about all that.

[bttfiii]

There are so many ways Bruce or anyone can get into Gotham. Bane didn't have that many men and the cops were only interested in preventing people from getting out of Gotham

the fact that he took so long to get back IS the plothole.. heh

[HarcourtMudd]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

How Bruce Wayne got back to Gotham is a total plot hole!

Originally Posted by sunnya23

How so? Remember, Bruce Wayne is Batman. He has mastered the art of stealth through League of Shadows training. After getting out of the pit it took him roughly 3 weeks to get back to Gotham. You are telling me he didn't have connections or resources to help him make that journey back to Gotham? Also, I highly doubt every entryway into Gotham was blocked, mainly just the bridges. Bane couldn't have cameras installed on every street of Gotham in addition to his men and the army making sure people got out or in. Also, being Batman I am sure he knows every single crack of Gotham city and knows the most secret paths and ways back to Gotham. After all, Bruce is no ordinary citizen of Gotham, we have seen him in all parts of Gotham throughout this trilogy. It is hardly surprising he got back to Gotham at all actually after thinking about all that.

In addition, he spent seven years running with the criminal element, and knew perfectly well how to get from place to place (obviously he would not have used his credit card, or he would have been traced). Boxcars, plains full of live poultry (reference?), etc are not beyond what he would/could utilize.

It continues to amuse me reading all of the supposed "plot holes" that really aren't, and can be explained by a little common sense and by paying attention to the film. While there are indeed some holes/problems with the editing, there really are no more than any other film; in fact, I would argue that there are fewer.

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

How Bruce Wayne got back to Gotham is a total plot hole!

Guys, I'm pretty sure he was joking - right, Agent Bond?

[MifuneFan]

It'd be kind of cool if the teaser credits after Man of Steel showed Superman flying to Gotham and saving Batman right before the detonation, and thus serving as a bridge to the Justice League movie.