Titanic 4K UHD (1997)

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by Bernardo A.

What LD player would you recommend for a beginner?

I’ve got a pretty sizeable collection, but no way of watching them.

Drop in here and say hello!
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...5#post21934115

I agree with punisher that Pioneer players are worth going after.

[grayskale]

Originally Posted by gazza1975

Did anyone else find the atmos track on this very underwhelming ? there were times i was waiting to feel it but i only remember 2 instances during the whole film that stood out as discrete effects - when the horn goes off just before setting sail and during the boat breaking scene - the resulting wave - was very disappointed particularly during that sequence as i think its an amazing special effect and was expecting may more immersion - the review on here was praising it ? i even had to check my atmos speakers were even on ? i hope the abyss sounds better ...

Yes - underwhelming use of Atmos.

Even dialogue driven films like 'Gandhi' and 'Sense & Sensibility' from the Columbia Classics 4k UHD sets were more immersive than this..

[oijryshour]

Apologies if this has been addressed elsewhere. During my first viewing of the UHD, when we get to the scene with Jack and Rose getting onto the door in the water, I noticed flashes of red in the water. A good example of this occurs at 2:46:47 - 2:46:56.

Did anyone else notice this?

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Home video isn't mastered with white at 255. White is mastered at 235. Anything over 235 is overshot. With everything being done in digital now, there is zero reason to not clip at 235 otherwise you are just wasting range in the display.

yeah true but beside the point here since we are just focusing on color balance

[dalemc]

Originally Posted by bmick23

You're seriously misinterpreting the point. All I wanted to convey with the sky example is that the colors do not look natural with that grade, and I'm not the only one to think so. There is plenty of discussion about this on other forums, and there's no need to be rude about it. If you're in love with the green tint, then great.

For what it's worth - I whole-heartedly agree with you on the green tint. You are right, it does look dull, and a bit distracting. And It does suck how the colour grading has shifted more and more towards the green end of the spectrum with each release (though the grading for the 4k and 2012 bluray seems to be exactly the same, so it thankfully hasn't gotten even more green with the recent 4k!!)

But yeah - I'm sorry you're being antagonized about this. ****ing sucks how people are so quick to attack, about an opinion that is totally valid and plain to see. The sky SHOULD be blue - it's blue in the actual 35mm film strips I've got. In the trailers, TV spots, VHS release, and two previous DVD releases, blues are BLUE, whites are bright and warm, skin tones are natural and rich.

You are not wrong.

[SpookyDollhouse]

[Show spoiler]

Originally Posted by feedmebeans

All these Cameron movies should be blue I do not know why the teal tint apologists are now lying saying that the prints were teal like that guy in the True Lies thread smh.

I'm sending you more beans

[sojrner]

Cranking it up now... da Mike has hads enough of da teeel.

[starmike]

I'm catching up on old movies I haven't watched in a long time, and "Young Doctors in Love" was last on my rotation. I haven't seen it since it was on HBO a century ago. Anyway, I forgot there was a spitting contest scene in it. Did Jim lift his from this?

[Bishop_99]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I just find myself marvelling at it, especially the quality of the filmouts for the CG shots which are incredibly good for the mid '90s, hell, or any decade since. There's hardly any drop in resolution, the grain doesn't spike, the colourimetry doesn't skew away from the camera neg, it's just amazing work.

Seriously? I am still waiting for my copy, which arrives on Monday. From some of these screencaps, it doesn't look like a film shot in the 80's - 90's.

I will be blown away if most of the movie has a look similar to The Fugitive 4K, Terminator 1 Blu-ray, Safe House Blu-ray, Predator 4K, Misery 4k and so on, with a few random smooth parts. If this is like Batman Begins 4k Blu-ray, I will be perfectly fine with True Lies 4K.

But if it isn't an issue like Batman Begins 4k Blu-ray, meaning it doesn't have a filmic look like The Last Action Hero does, I am surprised to see you marvelling at this transfer.

I understand if it's just your opinion and how much you enjoy the new look though.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Bishop_99

Seriously? I am still waiting for my copy, which arrives on Monday. From some of these screencaps, it doesn't look like a film shot in the 80's - 90's.

I will be blown away if most of the movie has a look similar to The Fugitive 4K, Terminator 1 Blu-ray, Safe House Blu-ray, Predator 4K, Misery 4k and so on, with a few random smooth parts. If this is like Batman Begins 4k Blu-ray, I will be perfectly fine with True Lies 4K.

But if it isn't an issue like Batman Begins 4k Blu-ray, meaning it doesn't have a filmic look like The Last Action Hero does, I am surprised to see you marvelling at this transfer.

I understand if it's just your opinion and how much you enjoy the new look though.

Random quote, but I'm talking about the VFX there, some folks thought it one notch above dogshit I had to say "nay!". But, as it happens, I like the UHD as well.

[Bishop_99]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Random quote, but I'm talking about the VFX there, some folks thought it one notch above dogshit I had to say "nay!". But, as it happens, I like the UHD as well.

Thanks! Maybe it isn't as bad as Predator Blu-ray (remastered) or T2 4K. If i isn't to my liking, I'll repurchase True Lies from Spain.

Edit: sorry, for a minute I thought this was the True Lies thread.

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by Bishop_99

Thanks! Maybe it isn't as bad as Predator Blu-ray (remastered) or T2 4K. If i isn't to my liking, I'll repurchase True Lies from Spain.

Edit: sorry, for a minute I thought this was the True Lies thread.

No, it isn't as bad. Due to the native 4K scan, there's remarkable clarity and detail. The colour also looks much better as they removed the green wash over the image that was there on the 2012 Blu-ray. However, DNR and AI manipulation has been done. In scenes where an actor close to the camera moves their head, the detail on their forehead and cheeks disappear and the faces look very waxy. The detail on those parts returns when they stop moving their heads. Plus, there's some dialogues missing as well.

[Bishop_99]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

No, it isn't as bad. Due to the native 4K scan, there's remarkable clarity and detail. The colour also looks much better as they removed the green wash over the image that was there on the 2012 Blu-ray. However, DNR and AI manipulation has been done. In scenes where an actor close to the camera moves their head, the detail on their forehead and cheeks disappear and the faces look very waxy. The detail on those parts returns when they stop moving their heads. Plus, there's some dialogues missing as well.

Thanks. It was my mistake as I thought I was in the True Lies thread. I haven't purchased the 4K disc of Titanic yet, but from the 4K version I skimmed through in iTunes, it looked good.

[Brian81]

Knowing this was AI touched, it makes me wonder if I should just go back to the more purist option of the BD. Was the audio line missing on the US UHD on the old Paramount BD?

[Bernardo A.]

Originally Posted by Brian81

Knowing this was AI touched, it makes me wonder if I should just go back to the more purist option of the BD. Was the audio line missing on the US UHD on the old Paramount BD?

IIRC the BDs (both 1080p and 3D) were considered reference-quality at the time.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by Brian81

Knowing this was AI touched, it makes me wonder if I should just go back to the more purist option of the BD. Was the audio line missing on the US UHD on the old Paramount BD?

All three missing lines are present on the BD, as far as I know.

[Bernardo A.]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

All three missing lines are present on the BD, as far as I know.

I wish the only problem with Cameron's films in UHD were missing lines, if you get my drift.

[samuelkhan999]

Any news Paramount is doing a disc replacement program for the missing audio?

[Bernardo A.]

Originally Posted by samuelkhan999

Any news Paramount is doing a disc replacement program for the missing audio?

Are people still hoping/waiting for that, at this point?

[samuelkhan999]

Originally Posted by Bernardo A.

Are people still hoping/waiting for that, at this point?

Idk. It's just a question in my mind. I simply want to get hold.of the 4k disc from Paramount release rather than the Fox one so that I could house the discs into my Fox 3D steelbook.

However, after purchasing the US 4k Disc, I've sold it off on eBay.