The Official Energy Speakers Thread

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Miker107

As it stands now it sounds fantastic. With an extra set of RCs and a 12" sub it's going to be insane.

You know, you could do like Olivier was saying and get the Energy V-10 sub and the RC-10s for the same price as getting the Hsu VTF-2.4, then you could be done. Ive heard the S10.3 and if oliver says the V-10 is better, then the V-10 woudl be a very good sub.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Miker107

I had my old setup in the living room for years, but when I purchased my 47" Toshiba TV, believe it or not the wife didn't want it in the living room because she likes her entertainment center and the 27" tv, so I started moving everything into the small bedroom and began upgrading from there.

My wife hates my ginormous sub, but I just told her "Deal!"

She hates my sub...

[Miker107]

Originally Posted by callas01

You know, you could do like Olivier was saying and get the Energy V-10 sub and the RC-10s for the same price as getting the Hsu VTF-2.4, then you could be done. Ive heard the S10.3 and if oliver says the V-10 is better, then the V-10 woudl be a very good sub.

hmm, but do you think that Energy sub could compare to the HSU in sound and build quality? I looked at the specs and the look pretty good, not quite as good as the HSU obviously, but for my small room it would probably perform just fine. I could always upgrade again later I guess.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Miker107

hmm, but do you think that Energy sub could compare to the HSU in sound and build quality? I looked at the specs and the look pretty good, not quite as good as the HSU obviously, but for my small room it would probably perform just fine. I could always upgrade again later I guess.

The 12" Hsu will push more air and probably punch you in the chest a little more then the Energy. However the S10.3 played surprisingly well when I heard it and filled up a rather large room to my surprise. The issue I had with that sub is that everyone wanted $529 for it. I was able to buy my eD for $350, and it was a bigger brute of a sub, that played deeper and heavier. I figured if I was gonna pay over $500 I wanted the Hsu. But the wife didn't want to spend $500 on a sub at that time, so I got the eD, and its been a great sub.

Now for you and your room, Im sure a very good 10" sub would be fine. Even if you wanted more bass, you could get a second one, which would be better then 1 12" sub. Of course you could buy the Hsu STF-2 for about the same price and get basically the same thing, a little less power but have the Hsu you wanted.

[kayvan79]

Originally Posted by callas01

I don't think he needs to move out, he just needs to tell the wife he's taking over the living room..

Any decision can change with the proper persuasion. That will be his next upgrade.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

You know, you could do like Olivier was saying and get the Energy V-10 sub and the RC-10s for the same price as getting the Hsu VTF-2.4, then you could be done. Ive heard the S10.3 and if oliver says the V-10 is better, then the V-10 woudl be a very good sub.

This sub can fill a 20x14x8 room so 10x10 is easy for it to fill and is faster and more accurate too.

The bass will be tight.

[Miker107]

Originally Posted by callas01

The 12" Hsu will push more air and probably punch you in the chest a little more then the Energy. However the S10.3 played surprisingly well when I heard it and filled up a rather large room to my surprise. The issue I had with that sub is that everyone wanted $529 for it. I was able to buy my eD for $350, and it was a bigger brute of a sub, that played deeper and heavier. I figured if I was gonna pay over $500 I wanted the Hsu. But the wife didn't want to spend $500 on a sub at that time, so I got the eD, and its been a great sub.

Now for you and your room, Im sure a very good 10" sub would be fine. Even if you wanted more bass, you could get a second one, which would be better then 1 12" sub. Of course you could buy the Hsu STF-2 for about the same price and get basically the same thing, a little less power but have the Hsu you wanted.

thank you guys for helping me through this process. You have all been very helpful as usual.

Steve, I was thinking the same thing early this morning as I was lying awake in bed. I think I might give that Energy sub a try, and like you said I can always get another one down the road. On the other hand, I did want a down firing sub, and that's what I liked about the HSU and Outlaw subs. I do think 10" would be fine; even Pete over at HSU told me a 10" would be fine for my small space.
I've decided that I'm going to get another pair of RC-10's for the surrounds, but now it's between Energy and HSU for the sub. I should be ready early next week to order whatever I decide.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Miker107

thank you guys for helping me through this process. You have all been very helpful as usual.

Steve, I was thinking the same thing early this morning as I was lying awake in bed. I think I might give that Energy sub a try, and like you said I can always get another one down the road. On the other hand, I did want a down firing sub, and that's what I liked about the HSU and Outlaw subs. I do think 10" would be fine; even Pete over at HSU told me a 10" would be fine for my small space.
I've decided that I'm going to get another pair of RC-10's for the surrounds, but now it's between Energy and HSU for the sub. I should be ready early next week to order whatever I decide.

Nothing against Energy subs, but I love Hsu subs, and the warranty is unbeatable. That'd get my vote. Congrats, cant wait to see the completed HT setup.

[Miker107]

Originally Posted by callas01

Nothing against Energy subs, but I love Hsu subs, and the warranty is unbeatable. That'd get my vote. Congrats, cant wait to see the completed HT setup.

Well Steve, I went back to the HSU site this morning and reviewed the specs and also looked around the web to see what others were saying about the Energy sub. Although people liked the Energy very much the comment that most frequently came across was that they can't complete with a nice HSU 12" sub for lower extension. I'm kind of leaning back to the 12" HSU again although that could change in the next 5 minutes.

The HSU STF 2 and RC-10 combo has the slight edge price wise. It's the cheapest combo so for at a total of 671.88, and the Energy sub and RC-10 setup comes behind that at 679.87.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Miker107

Well Steve, I went back to the HSU site this morning and reviewed the specs and also looked around the web to see what others were saying about the Energy sub. Although people liked the Energy very much the comment that most frequently came across was that they can't complete with a nice HSU 12" sub for lower extension. I'm kind of leaning back to the 12" HSU again although that could change in the next 5 minutes.

The HSU STF 2 and RC-10 combo has the slight edge price wise. It's the cheapest combo so for at a total of 671.88, and the Energy sub and RC-10 setup comes behind that at 679.87.

personally, I dont think you need a 12" sub, but do what you want. Id personally suggest the STF-2 and RC-10s. add another STF-2 down the road maybe....

[Miker107]

Originally Posted by callas01

personally, I dont think you need a 12" sub, but do what you want. Id personally suggest the STF-2 and RC-10s. add another STF-2 down the road maybe....

That's what I'm leaning towards at the moment. Just emailed Pete to get his thoughts.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by Miker107

That's what I'm leaning towards at the moment. Just emailed Pete to get his thoughts.

Tha makes a lot of sense, for this size room a good 10 will be a killer, nevermind the low end extension 20hz is quite low and do not buy a sub only based on speacs or any other speakers and your Yammy will not compete with any of those. Maybe i could offer you my sub Mike

The STF-2 would be a great sub and in a larger room in pair it would be really nice.

[Miker107]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

Tha makes a lot of sense, for this size room a good 10 will be a killer, nevermind the low end extension 20hz is quite low and do not buy a sub only based on speacs or any other speakers and your Yammy will not compete with any of those. Maybe i could offer you my sub Mike

The STF-2 would be a great sub and in a larger room in pair it would be really nice.

Yea, you might be right there Olivier. I was a little concerned that it would not go low enough for movies. I think I read that it could reach down to about 23hz if handled properly. From what I've read on other forums people seem to like it, and they say it has a nice balance between output and extension.
Others say that it doesn't go low enough for their taste. It a hard decision when you can't hear it personally.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by Miker107

Yea, you might be right there Olivier. I was a little concerned that it would not go low enough for movies. I think I read that it could reach down to about 23hz if handled properly. From what I've read on other forums people seem to like it, and they say it has a nice balance between output and extension.
Others say that it doesn't go low enough for their taste. It a hard decision when you can't hear it personally.

23hz is no slouch look at all the subs like Klipsch and other big companies other than online direct sub manufacturer and you will notice that 23hz is not so bad, Now of course it aint a 12 or 15 inch that can reach 12 to 16hz or 17 hz but I will tell you this if you get a 12 you might get too much air displacement for your roomsize, I know the Veritas sub is great and can fill a much bigger room but there is always better out there. Up to you.

Depends a lot on preference, look at Dynaudio subs, they don't even go nearly as low as this for the most part. It does not make them bad.

[Miker107]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

23hz is no slouch look at all the subs like Klipsch and other big companies other than online direct sub manufacturer and you will notice that 23hz is not so bad, Now of course it aint a 12 or 15 inch that can reach 12 to 16hz or 17 hz but I will tell you this if you get a 12 you might get too much air displacement for your roomsize, I know the Veritas sub is great and can fill a much bigger room but there is always better out there. Up to you.

Depends a lot on preference, look at Dynaudio subs, they don't even go nearly as low as this for the most part. It does not make them bad.

Thanks Olivier. Steve also gave me a good talking to over in the HSU thread, saying basically the same things you are. I'm sorry for guys. I guess I'm just the type of person that if I'm going to spend hundreds of dollars on something I want to know what I'm getting and that it's going to work for me.
I looked back at my email correspondence with Pete over at HSU, we talked about the VTF 1, and he told me that would work fine, which has identical specs to the STF 2, so I guess either would work.
I'll see how much I get from my dad early next week and go from there. I'll be ordering something by the middle of next week I'm sure.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by Miker107

Thanks Olivier. Steve also gave me a good talking to over in the HSU thread, saying basically the same things you are. I'm sorry for guys. I guess I'm just the type of person that if I'm going to spend hundreds of dollars on something I want to know what I'm getting and that it's going to work for me.
I looked back at my email correspondence with Pete over at HSU, we talked about the VTF 1, and he told me that would work fine, which has identical specs to the STF 2, so I guess either would work.
I'll see how much I get from my dad early next week and go from there. I'll be ordering something by the middle of next week I'm sure.

If you have a good 10 hitting in the low 20s I think you will be in Heaven seriously, you don't want it to be overkill either.

Well a good 10 will pound like there is no tomorrow in this small room and later in a bigger room if you run dual 10 in a 16x12 room it will also be insane.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

23hz is no slouch look at all the subs like Klipsch and other big companies other than online direct sub manufacturer and you will notice that 23hz is not so bad, Now of course it aint a 12 or 15 inch that can reach 12 to 16hz or 17 hz but I will tell you this if you get a 12 you might get too much air displacement for your roomsize, I know the Veritas sub is great and can fill a much bigger room but there is always better out there. Up to you.

Depends a lot on preference, look at Dynaudio subs, they don't even go nearly as low as this for the most part. It does not make them bad.

nope, Dyn subs don't go super low. However its interesting cause talking to my Dyn dealer he had a SUB300 from Dynaudio, he said he was comparing it to the JL f113 and he was saying how it gave up power and sub 20 hz performance, but was better at being more textured and musical in ways the JL couldn't meet. I was kinda shocked cause he isn't going to stock the Dyn subs, even tho he liked it a little better. I think it has to do with what will sell more, IMO.

[Miker107]

So guys, it looks like I will order a VTF-1 next week. Pete said the VTF-1 will give me the ability to fine tune since the STF-2 is fixed. I will give you guys my impressions when I get it. Thanks so much for all your patience and helping me work through this.

[Miker107]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

If you have a good 10 hitting in the low 20s I think you will be in Heaven seriously, you don't want it to be overkill either.

Well a good 10 will pound like there is no tomorrow in this small room and later in a bigger room if you run dual 10 in a 16x12 room it will also be insane.

Pete told me the 12" would be fine, but I would probably have to lower the gain to reduce the sound pressure level for my room. He also told me I probably should leave the door to the room open slightly.
I think the 10" will be fine. After all, I don't want to tear my room to shreds, I just want to be able to feel the bass and not just hear it.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by Miker107

Pete told me the 12" would be fine, but I would probably have to lower the gain to reduce the sound pressure level for my room. He also told me I probably should leave the door to the room open slightly.
I think the 10" will be fine. After all, I don't want to tear my room to shreds, I just want to be able to feel the bass and not just hear it.

And feel you will with that 10.