Warner Bros. making the jump to DTS-HD MA?

[davcole]

Ok, now this is very, very interesting if true. I don't ever know of DVDACTIVE putting up fake stuff, they've always been legit. I don't see Zach Snyder having enough pull to mandate a DTSMA track. Either way this makes for very interesting news.

It would be interesting to see if Warner has additional releases in DTSMA. This studio has never been DTS-friendly in any of it's incarnations. I am guessing if they do have a codec switch, it's due to bandwidth savings. DTSMA's big advantage is that the legacy codec is built-in so you don't have to have the bandwidth for an additional 640 or 448 track. It will be interesting to see if the Watchmen track is at the usual 16bit or upped to 24bit.

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by davcole

Ok, now this is very, very interesting if true. I don't ever know of DVDACTIVE putting up fake stuff, they've always been legit. I don't see Zach Snyder having enough pull to mandate a DTSMA track. Either way this makes for very interesting news.

It would be interesting to see if Warner has additional releases in DTSMA. This studio has never been DTS-friendly in any of it's incarnations. I am guessing if they do have a codec switch, it's due to bandwidth savings. DTSMA's big advantage is that the legacy codec is built-in so you don't have to have the bandwidth for a 640 or 448 track. It will be interesting to see if the Watchmen track is at the usual 16bit or upped to 24bit.

if its bandwidth saving,let hope they don't dnr it to death.

[ewwgurt]

o thats just a load of horse hooey. keep dreaming.

[thommycain]

Originally Posted by VenomBrock

Here's something interesting. DVDActive just put up the back cover for the upcoming 'Watchmen: Director's Cut', and check out the audio specs at the bottom!

Let's hope this is legit- in my opinion it should all be mastered in DTS HD MA 7.1- am I the only one in the 21st century? C'mon, guys, we've been listening to ex/es for a decade now; why do the powers that be still insist on mastering everything in 5.1? Could you imagine the home-theater viewing experience of The Dark Knight in DTS HD 7.1?

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by thommycain

Let's hope this is legit- in my opinion it should all be mastered in DTS HD MA 7.1- am I the only one in the 21st century? C'mon, guys, we've been listening to ex/es for a decade now; why do the powers that be still insist on mastering everything in 5.1? Could you imagine the home-theater viewing experience of The Dark Knight in DTS HD 7.1?

How many times are you going to copy and paste the same post?

[saginawjuggalo]

Originally Posted by davcole

I am guessing if they do have a codec switch, it's due to bandwidth savings. DTSMA's big advantage is that the legacy codec is built-in so you don't have to have the bandwidth for a 640 or 448 track. It will be interesting to see if the Watchmen track is at the usual 16bit or upped to 24bit.

You mean space, not bandwidth. DTS MA takes up more bandwidth due to the higher bitrate (1.5mbps) core. TrueHD's legacy core is half that. Warner's TrueHD encodes tend to be in the 1-3MBPS range. Yes, Warner wastes space with a secondary DD even though TrueHD has the core built-in from the get go. Reportedly early BD players (may) have trouble picking up that DD track from the TrueHD codec. This only matters for people using the optical or coaxial digital outs. Warner likes to play things safe. Interestingly enough if Warner switched to DTS it will leave early BD players with just the core no matter if your HDMI equipped or not.. Not that this really matters with most studios already on DTS's side... All this means is that early Blu-ray owners will feel the need to upgraded even sooner.

[STARSCREAM]

Originally Posted by red_5ive

Add Kung Fu Panda to that list. Reference quality.

I was gonna add that one but had already finished my post and decided not to edit. I knew somone would throw that one in there and it didn't take long.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by thommycain

Let's hope this is legit- in my opinion it should all be mastered in DTS HD MA 7.1- am I the only one in the 21st century? C'mon, guys, we've been listening to ex/es for a decade now; why do the powers that be still insist on mastering everything in 5.1? Could you imagine the home-theater viewing experience of The Dark Knight in DTS HD 7.1?

Might as well argue that everything should be in 16:9 aspect ratio and shot in digital only.

It's up to the directors to create things as they see fit. If they want 5.1 audio, that's their choice. If they want stereo, that's fine too. Even mono is fine if that's what they want.

No one cares if your home theatre isn't getting used to its maximum just like no one cares if your screen has black bars. That's how it is meant to be presented and to complain about it is foolish.

[andyman1970]

Originally Posted by saprano

It probably was the directors choice.

I was thinking the same thing. That maybe Zack Snyder wanted this.

Originally Posted by davcole

Ok, now this is very, very interesting if true. I don't ever know of DVDACTIVE putting up fake stuff, they've always been legit. I don't see Zach Snyder having enough pull to mandate a DTSMA track. Either way this makes for very interesting news.

It would be interesting to see if Warner has additional releases in DTSMA. This studio has never been DTS-friendly in any of it's incarnations. I am guessing if they do have a codec switch, it's due to bandwidth savings. DTSMA's big advantage is that the legacy codec is built-in so you don't have to have the bandwidth for a 640 or 448 track. It will be interesting to see if the Watchmen track is at the usual 16bit or upped to 24bit.

I would love to see WB using DTS HD MA on all their upcoming releases. This would mean LOTR would be in DTS the way it should be.

[RiseDarthVader]

Another great TrueHD track is The Incredible Hulk in the areas that Paramount owned the distribution for. Sounds as great as what you guys are saying in the US. Such a great mix.

[red_5ive]

Originally Posted by STARSCREAM

I was gonna add that one but had already finished my post and decided not to edit. I knew somone would throw that one in there and it didn't take long.

[bone crusher]

I was looking on dvdactive.com and they show a back cover shot of Zack Snyder's Watchmen and it has the DTS HD logo on it. To the bet of my knowledge WB has never used DTS HD or DTS in general, is Watchmen the first to do so?

[The Matador]

Amazon.com is showing the same back cover on their website too.
Link

[Scorxpion]

Any clue on Terminator Salvation distributed by Warner too

[Alan Gordon]

Originally Posted by davcole

Ok, now this is very, very interesting if true. I don't ever know of DVDACTIVE putting up fake stuff, they've always been legit.

WB has released rear cover-art before with incorrect specs. "The Perfect Storm" for example... which showed plain Dolby Digital, but when the title was released, the rear cover art stated that the audio was "Dolby Digital TrueHD" (not a typo). The release of Season Three of "The Venture Bros." states that it contains a "Dolby Digital: English 5.1" soundtrack, but according to a review here on Blu-ray.com, actually contains a Dolby TrueHD soundtrack.

I'm not saying that it's not legit, as I'm going to assume it is until a reviewer says otherwise... or revised cover-art is released, I'm just saying that the specs could be wrong without any wrong-doing on the part of DVDActive.com.

Originally Posted by davcole

I don't see Zach Snyder having enough pull to mandate a DTSMA track. Either way this makes for very interesting news.

Rear cover-art for the upcoming re-release of "300" shows Dolby TrueHD, so if he mandated it on "Watchmen", apparently he didn't feel it was worth it to mandate one for the re-release of "300", or couldn't justify the added expense of re-encoding the audio for it.

Originally Posted by davcole

It would be interesting to see if Warner has additional releases in DTSMA. This studio has never been DTS-friendly in any of it's incarnations.

HBO currently uses DTS-HD MA. Though handled by different people, New Line used DTS-HD MA as well until WB brought the encoding "in-house."

~Alan

[ganthc]

Originally Posted by Alan Gordon

HBO currently uses DTS-HD MA. Though handled by different people, New Line used DTS-HD MA as well until WB brought the encoding "in-house."

~Alan

Correct, the early blu-ray titles came with dts-hdma as the lossless track.

Pan's Labyrinth
Hairspray
The Orphanage
Rush Hour 3

to name a few.

[bajor27]

Could care less if they switch or not. I just want them to put lossless on all titles.

I do, however, think that if they are switching, they would probably be moving to including lossless on all titles finally. (I'm still really worried about all their TV releases this year not having it)

[doctorD]

It will be interesting if this is true. Dolby TrueHD for Matrix and Dark Knight is pretty awesome but my personal favorite is DTS-HD MA.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by davcole

It will be interesting to see if the Watchmen track is at the usual 16bit or upped to 24bit.

Nope, warner loves down rezzing movies to 16bit. they have yet to release a movie in 24bit audio.

Originally Posted by TTUBatfan2008

That's interesting. Hopefully they don't screw up the video transfer with DNR and EE.

Sorry but this is warner were talking about. the movie will have both.

Originally Posted by andyman1970

I was thinking the same thing. That maybe Zack Snyder wanted this.



I would love to see WB using DTS HD MA on all their upcoming releases. This would mean LOTR would be in DTS the way it should be.

Spielberg did the samething with close encounters. thats why theres both a Dolby TrueHD track and a DTS-MA track. dont think zack has the same power as him though

LOTR having DTS would be up to peter jackson.

[pdawg2003_03]

I see the future and the future is DTS-HDMA for all studios.


DTS-HDMA Studios

Fox/MGM
Disney/Buena Vista (NEXT YEAR JOINING WITH DISNEY) DREAMWORKS
Universal
Lionsgate
Sony ???????
Warner Brothers/New Line ??????

Dolby TureHD Studios

Paramount


So The Future is DTS-HDMA

JUST LIKE BLU-RAY BEAT HD-DVD
DTS-HDMA BEATS DOLBY TRUEHD
NEXT BLU-RAY DEFEATS DVD

THE FUTURE IS BLU-RAY & DTS-HDMA