Activision CEO threatens to Stop Supporting Sony - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

Marine Mike · 06-19-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rike255

It all makes sense to me now. He wants a price drop because he knows nobody can afford a PS3 AND their crazy expensive games...

Yup. Lets say that you are a brand new gamer and want to play it on a PS3 for the cheapest price. So you need to purchase a PS3 plus the Band Hero bundle because you do not have any instruments.

PS3 80GB - $400 / Wii $250 / XBox $200 (arcade)
Band Hero (bundle) - $200
=$600 / $450 / $400

Poetic · 06-19-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by heathward

i don't think i own a single game that has the word "activision" written on the box anywhere. maybe dead space? should i be concerned about this?

Dead Space is EA I think. The previous evil empire. Activision has definitely taken over that title. You can put out crap and expect ps3 owners to buy it. We're too used to games like MGS4, Infamous, Little Big Planet, Killzone 2, Uncharted, etc etc etc.

Cplhicks · 06-19-2009, 03:16 PM

Honestly, except for Call of Duty (which I know a lot of people like, though I personally don't) what the heck has Activision made recently that's worth a damn? All they do is keep milking Guitar Hero and Tony Hawk. And instead of making DLC for GH, they keep releasing new damn games. Guess what, Activision? I don't buy your games cause I'm sick of buying the same thing over and over. New, decent songs for download would be a lot better than buying a whole new game that doesn't support downloads or songs from previous games. Welcome to the HD generation, Activision, where you don't have to keep pumping out discs just to have a few new songs. Ugh. Rock Band's way is so much better (though Beatles is a bit of an exception). And uh, yeah, why not blow of 40% or more of your game sales? Good idea, schmuck. Seriously, Activision has been doing nothing but going downhill since they merged with Blizzard and got a buttload of cash. They got rid of most of the interesting games in their portfolio and became the old EA.

Goodintentions · 06-19-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cplhicks

Honestly, except for Call of Duty (which I know a lot of people like, though I personally don't) what the heck has Activision made recently that's worth a damn? All they do is keep milking Guitar Hero and Tony Hawk. And instead of making DLC for GH, they keep releasing new damn games. Guess what, Activision? I don't buy your games cause I'm sick of buying the same thing over and over. New, decent songs for download would be a lot better than buying a whole new game that doesn't support downloads or songs from previous games. Welcome to the HD generation, Activision, where you don't have to keep pumping out discs just to have a few new songs. Ugh. Rock Band's way is so much better (though Beatles is a bit of an exception). And uh, yeah, why not blow of 40% or more of your game sales? Good idea, schmuck. Seriously, Activision has been doing nothing but going downhill since they merged with Blizzard and got a buttload of cash. They got rid of most of the interesting games in their portfolio and became the old EA.

does activision actually make games ?? i thought they were just a publisher !?!?

yobrenoops · 06-19-2009, 03:30 PM

I personally think if Activision stop doing PS3 games, it'll be the death knell of support for the console, other than 1st party. This is exactly what happened to the Dreamcast. I'm hoping this is just a bit of corporate smack-talk and not a statement of intent.

Toxa · 06-19-2009, 03:42 PM

The Most important is

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Just spoke to SCEE PR. A statement's being prepared, we were told, and it “shouldn't be too much longer”.

Velmeran · 06-19-2009, 03:45 PM

Also worth pondering, several in Infinity Ward (IMO the only DevStudio under activision worth a damn) have made a lot of statements that seem to put them at odds with Activision's overall goals and objectives

While still a subsidiary of Activision, this could potentially become an interesting wrinkle in that relationship...

It's not like the initial team at Infinity Ward hasn't aleady broken off from a different company to form their own before....

Total speculation, I'm just very confused by a lot of Activision's actions and comments lately.

Marine Mike · 06-19-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxa

The Most important is

Oh snap dizzle!

STARSCREAM · 06-19-2009, 03:55 PM

Oh wow, this would be huge if it happened. I'm not liking what I'm hearing here. This is the same exact stuff that started happening with Dreamcast as other have already mentioned. I got a Dreamcast on launch day and it was awesome, I loved it. The 2k football game on it blew me and my friends away with its graphics at the time and overall presentation. As soon as companies announced no support for it or no more support for it that system died fast. Now I'm not saying the PS3 is going to go away as I don't think it would becasue SONY has way more money and power than SEGA did. However, the system would definately suffer big time.

For those that think Call Of Duty series wouldn't be a big loss........yeah right. Those games are huge and sometimes system sellers. Would be a gigantic loss.

Marine Mike · 06-19-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxa

The Most important is

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Sony Computer Entertainment Europe responded to our request for comment by issuing the following statement: "We respect our third parties' opinions and their right to express those opinions but we will not be commenting on this story."

Hrm...

Toxa · 06-19-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marine Mike

Hrm...

bajor27 · 06-19-2009, 04:02 PM

To whomever mentioned it, Dead Space is indeed made by EA.

Just quickly looked through my collection of Wii, PS3, and DS games - don't see any Activision titles at all. Last Activision purchases of mine looks to be for the Gamecube (2 Spider-man games and 2 X-men Legends games)

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Originally Posted by Velmeran

Also worth pondering, several in Infinity Ward (IMO the only DevStudio under activision worth a damn) have made a lot of statements that seem to put them at odds with Activision's overall goals and objectives

While still a subsidiary of Activision, this could potentially become an interesting wrinkle in that relationship...

It's not like the initial team at Infinity Ward hasn't aleady broken off from a different company to form their own before....

Total speculation, I'm just very confused by a lot of Activision's actions and comments lately.

Is it Infinity Ward that has a lot of guys that used to work for EA making Medal of Honor games but left because they weren't happy with the direction EA was taking it? Would be funny if that happened again. Maybe they can break off, stay independent, and then release through EA Partners :P Wouldn't that be hilarious

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Originally Posted by STARSCREAM

Oh wow, this would be huge if it happened. I'm not liking what I'm hearing here. This is the same exact stuff that started happening with Dreamcast as other have already mentioned. I got a Dreamcast on launch day and it was awesome, I loved it. The 2k football game on it blew me and my friends away with its graphics at the time and overall presentation. As soon as companies announced no support for it or no more support for it that system died fast. Now I'm not saying the PS3 is going to go away as I don't think it would becasue SONY has way more money and power than SEGA did. However, the system would definately suffer big time.

The Dreamcast (at least to my memory) didn't seem to get as far into it's life cycle though. And it was also the follow up to the bomb that was the Sega Saturn. I think that had a lot to do with how it turned out. It certainly wasn't just losing EA that killed it.

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Originally Posted by STARSCREAM

For those that think Call Of Duty series wouldn't be a big loss........yeah right. Those games are huge and sometimes system sellers. Would be a gigantic loss.

And while I definitely made out like it wouldn't be a big loss, I know it would be big. I just don't think it would be a system killing loss. I think a lot of people who would have bought a console for COD, already bought one for COD or will with MW2 (which being this far along, would be unlikely not to come to PS3 regardless of what Activision does I think).

I guess I just see it more of a Paramount switching to Red, than a WB switching to Blu situation. It would suck, but wouldn't be the end of us.

Rike255 · 06-19-2009, 04:03 PM

I just hope this spurs some action up at Sony HQ. If it doesn't, I'm willing to bet my good pair of shoes Activision does nothing.

Velmeran · 06-19-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bajor27

Is it Infinity Ward that has a lot of guys that used to work for EA making Medal of Honor games but left because they weren't happy with the direction EA was taking it? Would be funny if that happened again. Maybe they can break off, stay independent, and then release through EA Partners :P Wouldn't that be hilarious

One and the same

which is why I figured it should be worth pondering as speculation. I also know Infinity Ward (and most fans of the CoD series) are getting very sick of the rotating the games back and forth with Treyarch.

Would be great if we could see Activisions ploy and hypocritical comments come back to bite them.

Musashi · 06-19-2009, 04:11 PM

Activision will never cut off PlayStation. Europe and Japan all but guarantee that.

dk3dknight · 06-19-2009, 04:12 PM

Lol I did the samething went through my games and realized I have not purchased a activision game since PS2 days, and they all were used games.

scratch... hmm

Activision has some good IPs in its inventory but there locked away never to see light again....

They have a good mechwarrior like IP (Heavy Gear)
and FPS/RTS Hyprid IP

Both collect dust..

It seems the companys that are making money take risks.. they use to take risks, but now there in conservative mode, COD+ROCKBAND+TonyHAWK mode...

SGIBES · 06-19-2009, 04:15 PM

I think Sony was planning on a price cut anyway, and now Activision will try to take credit for it.

BluOgre · 06-19-2009, 04:16 PM

Let's be honest here, the world wide sales are nearly equal in multiplat games for Ps3 and X360. This attach rate crap argument I keep reading about is BS.

I find it funny that the CEO is claiming they will stop supporting Sony because they THINK the sales are going drop. Who in their right mind are going to give up half their sales? After all the *****ing and moaning developers do about costs to develop games and here this moron is talking about cutting half their sales?

Don't for one second think this is ever going to happen, I can't see stockholders thinking it was wise to cut their sales in half because Sony is rivialing them for the most overpriced hardware.

aphex · 06-19-2009, 04:24 PM

Obviously Activision wants to make more money. So they threaten Sony with wishes to make Sony drop the ps3 price which will sell more ps3's and in turn give them more money.

I think it's lame though, now Sony will look like chumps even though they've had a price drop planned for a while now.

I guess Sony should have announced at E3?

Well whatever.

Elandyll · 06-19-2009, 04:36 PM

All companies want to make money, it's nothing new (aside from the not for profit, obviously).

Like it has been mentionned, it's simply a scare tactic, and a matter of saving face.
Before E3, the Activision CEO declared that the PS3 had to lower its price. He was probably expecting a price drop duiring E3, after which he could have said "Sony listens to us "the most important company ever", and that is good.
Then nothing happened, and he got pissed.

This being said, I cannot imagine Activision dropping a market of 22+ million consoles to concentrate on 2 markets of 30 million and 60 million ones. Why lose up to 25% of your potential sales on a whim ?

Now, I have seen a whole lot of denial too in this thread. Let's also be realists:
since the 360 price drop, the market share of the 360 has indeed pulled away, although not in huge numbers, comparatively speaking. So yes, the PS3 is losing ground (for now).
Activision/ Blizzard is just as big as EA, and their franchises are some of the biggest in gaming:
- Call of Duty
- Guitar Hero
- Tony Hawk
- Doom
- Warcraft (PC)
- Starcraft (PC - for now)

to only mention a few

In the end it might start a war of words between Activision and Sony, and in the worst case trigger a knee jerk reaction from Sony who might not want to appear as if they were b*tch slapped by a game publisher and thus delay the price drop.

I hope it will have the opposite effect, but who knows?

06-19-2009, 03:55 PM	#49
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	Oh wow, this would be huge if it happened. I'm not liking what I'm hearing here. This is the same exact stuff that started happening with Dreamcast as other have already mentioned. I got a Dreamcast on launch day and it was awesome, I loved it. The 2k football game on it blew me and my friends away with its graphics at the time and overall presentation. As soon as companies announced no support for it or no more support for it that system died fast. Now I'm not saying the PS3 is going to go away as I don't think it would becasue SONY has way more money and power than SEGA did. However, the system would definately suffer big time. For those that think Call Of Duty series wouldn't be a big loss........yeah right. Those games are huge and sometimes system sellers. Would be a gigantic loss. Last edited by STARSCREAM; 06-19-2009 at 04:01 PM.

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Cplhicks Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 4K collection:276 Blu-ray collection:1997 DVD collection:798 MA collection:457 Digital collection:581 iTunes collection:668 Prime collection:446 Trading Score:31	Honestly, except for Call of Duty (which I know a lot of people like, though I personally don't) what the heck has Activision made recently that's worth a damn? All they do is keep milking Guitar Hero and Tony Hawk. And instead of making DLC for GH, they keep releasing new damn games. Guess what, Activision? I don't buy your games cause I'm sick of buying the same thing over and over. New, decent songs for download would be a lot better than buying a whole new game that doesn't support downloads or songs from previous games. Welcome to the HD generation, Activision, where you don't have to keep pumping out discs just to have a few new songs. Ugh. Rock Band's way is so much better (though Beatles is a bit of an exception). And uh, yeah, why not blow of 40% or more of your game sales? Good idea, schmuck. Seriously, Activision has been doing nothing but going downhill since they merged with Blizzard and got a buttload of cash. They got rid of most of the interesting games in their portfolio and became the old EA.

06-19-2009, 03:30 PM	#45
yobrenoops Active Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Leeds, UK	I personally think if Activision stop doing PS3 games, it'll be the death knell of support for the console, other than 1st party. This is exactly what happened to the Dreamcast. I'm hoping this is just a bit of corporate smack-talk and not a statement of intent.

06-19-2009, 03:45 PM	#47
Velmeran Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Minnesota Blu-ray collection:268 Trading Score:8	Also worth pondering, several in Infinity Ward (IMO the only DevStudio under activision worth a damn) have made a lot of statements that seem to put them at odds with Activision's overall goals and objectives While still a subsidiary of Activision, this could potentially become an interesting wrinkle in that relationship... It's not like the initial team at Infinity Ward hasn't aleady broken off from a different company to form their own before.... Total speculation, I'm just very confused by a lot of Activision's actions and comments lately.

06-19-2009, 04:03 PM	#53
Rike255 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:AB, Canada PSNetwork: Rike255 Home Theater Gallery:44 Blu-ray collection:57	I just hope this spurs some action up at Sony HQ. If it doesn't, I'm willing to bet my good pair of shoes Activision does nothing.

06-19-2009, 04:11 PM	#55
Musashi Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Manchester, CT Home Theater Gallery:5 4K collection:25 Blu-ray collection:337 Blu-ray reviews: 1	Activision will never cut off PlayStation. Europe and Japan all but guarantee that.

06-19-2009, 04:12 PM	#56
dk3dknight Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2007 Location:Arlington, Texas PSNetwork: dk3dknight PostCount: 0001 Blu-ray collection:44 Blu-ray reviews: 2	Lol I did the samething went through my games and realized I have not purchased a activision game since PS2 days, and they all were used games. scratch... hmm Activision has some good IPs in its inventory but there locked away never to see light again.... They have a good mechwarrior like IP (Heavy Gear) and FPS/RTS Hyprid IP Both collect dust.. It seems the companys that are making money take risks.. they use to take risks, but now there in conservative mode, COD+ROCKBAND+TonyHAWK mode...

06-19-2009, 04:15 PM	#57
SGIBES Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Chicago IL Trading Score:1	I think Sony was planning on a price cut anyway, and now Activision will try to take credit for it.

06-19-2009, 04:16 PM	#58
BluOgre Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007	Let's be honest here, the world wide sales are nearly equal in multiplat games for Ps3 and X360. This attach rate crap argument I keep reading about is BS. I find it funny that the CEO is claiming they will stop supporting Sony because they THINK the sales are going drop. Who in their right mind are going to give up half their sales? After all the *****ing and moaning developers do about costs to develop games and here this moron is talking about cutting half their sales? Don't for one second think this is ever going to happen, I can't see stockholders thinking it was wise to cut their sales in half because Sony is rivialing them for the most overpriced hardware.

06-19-2009, 04:24 PM	#59
aphex Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Scottsdale Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	Obviously Activision wants to make more money. So they threaten Sony with wishes to make Sony drop the ps3 price which will sell more ps3's and in turn give them more money. I think it's lame though, now Sony will look like chumps even though they've had a price drop planned for a while now. I guess Sony should have announced at E3? Well whatever.

06-19-2009, 04:36 PM	#60
Elandyll Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Location:MD Blu-ray collection:188 Trading Score:1	All companies want to make money, it's nothing new (aside from the not for profit, obviously). Like it has been mentionned, it's simply a scare tactic, and a matter of saving face. Before E3, the Activision CEO declared that the PS3 had to lower its price. He was probably expecting a price drop duiring E3, after which he could have said "Sony listens to us "the most important company ever", and that is good. Then nothing happened, and he got pissed. This being said, I cannot imagine Activision dropping a market of 22+ million consoles to concentrate on 2 markets of 30 million and 60 million ones. Why lose up to 25% of your potential sales on a whim ? Now, I have seen a whole lot of denial too in this thread. Let's also be realists: since the 360 price drop, the market share of the 360 has indeed pulled away, although not in huge numbers, comparatively speaking. So yes, the PS3 is losing ground (for now). Activision/ Blizzard is just as big as EA, and their franchises are some of the biggest in gaming: - Call of Duty - Guitar Hero - Tony Hawk - Doom - Warcraft (PC) - Starcraft (PC - for now) to only mention a few In the end it might start a war of words between Activision and Sony, and in the worst case trigger a knee jerk reaction from Sony who might not want to appear as if they were b*tch slapped by a game publisher and thus delay the price drop. I hope it will have the opposite effect, but who knows?

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