What will come after Blu-ray?

[Diesel]

The studios will beam movies directly into our skulls starting in 2015

[PH3AR]

Red-ray

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by PH3AR

Red-ray

Psh, get with the times man, we already had that (DVD)

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Grumpz

Anyways, there's no doubt in my mind, physical media is almost dead.

Why do people say this? CDs aren't even close to dead, and that's the physical medium with the most competition from downloaded sources. Just because you download everything doesn't mean everyone else does or wants to or is even willing to. If they stopped pressing CDs, I'd probably stop buying music altogether.

Flash and solid state drives or variations there of are the future. They'll easily handle new media formats.

They're still too expensive to give high quality presentations. I'm sure they'll become cheaper to produce in the future, but for the here-and-now, optical discs are WAY cheaper to produce. Or do you believe they can produce a solid state drive with 50 GB for about a dollar?

[Grumpz]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

Why do people say this? CDs aren't even close to dead, and that's the physical medium with the most competition from downloaded sources. Just because you download everything doesn't mean everyone else does or wants to or is even willing to. If they stopped pressing CDs, I'd probably stop buying music altogether.


They're still too expensive to give high quality presentations. I'm sure they'll become cheaper to produce in the future, but for the here-and-now, optical discs are WAY cheaper to produce. Or do you believe they can produce a solid state drive with 50 GB for about a dollar?

When I say almost, it's relative...correct? When I say dead, it's relative too. I don't think a decade is a long time. Will physical media be around in decade...likely. Will it be mainstream...NOT A CHANCE.

I'm not going through this again. However flash media has gone from 60 bucks a gig to less than 2 bucks a gig in less than 4 yrs. Do you think it will get more expensive per gb over the next 4 yrs?

Nuff said.

[P@t_Mtl]

After Blu-ray, the way the ozone layer is leaving us it's going to be UV-rays

[maximiza]

There is nothing after blu-ray. This will be the last great physical media.

[Stereo24192]

Yes, optical discs are still cheaper to make than memory cards -but for how long?
Maybe some form of heavily copy-protected ROM-card(Read Only Memory) for those who want the feeling of owning a physical product and the ease of use compared to downloads(at least the way it is today).And no moving parts would be an advantage over Blu-ray.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Grumpz

When I say almost, it's relative...correct? When I say dead, it's relative too. I don't think a decade is a long time. Will physical media be around in decade...likely. Will it be mainstream...NOT A CHANCE.

I'm not going through this again. However flash media has gone from 60 bucks a gig to less than 2 bucks a gig in less than 4 yrs. Do you think it will get more expensive per gb over the next 4 yrs?

Nuff said.

yup, enough said, that is the most ridiculous thing I ever read.

1) chances are that disks will still be mainstream with most of the market even in 10 years

2) if anything will be around for more then 10 years and extremely healthy then calling it almost dead is just nuts. everything will eventually disappear but is that is the definition of almost dead then you and I are almost dead as well and so is a new born that has his whole life in front of him (even if he lives to be 100)

3) Flash will never be a media for sale of content. why
--- a) it is extremely expensive, no one will ever sell 50 cent drives even if we assumed they could be made for the necessary size at that price, that is why you can't buy 8mb cards any more, when the bigger ones become cheap enough the smaller ones get dumped
--- b) the benefit of the disk is that it is replicated, plastic goes in and a working disk comes out, it takes seconds to make a BD, Flash can't be replicated, it needs to be manufactured and then the data needs to be transferred, even if we assume it is extremely fast 50GB (or what ever the size will be) will take minutes per film.
--- c) you talk of 2$ a GB, but for 50GB that would cost 100$ to create the flash + at least an other 20$ for transferring the data (time is money), that brings it to 120$ on the other hand the price is more then 100* too big.
--- d) there is no benefit. Do people say "I hate disks, give me flash"? Do studios say "flash would be better"? Do CEs say "we don't like making disk players we can make some profit off of, we would rather make cheap flash readers that most people get free anyways"? Why would anyone push for a change from disk to flash (unless there is a real change which disk can’t handle)

[aygie]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

yup, enough said, that is the most ridiculous thing I ever read.

1) chances are that disks will still be mainstream with most of the market even in 10 years

2) if anything will be around for more then 10 years and extremely healthy then calling it almost dead is just nuts. everything will eventually disappear but is that is the definition of almost dead then you and I are almost dead as well and so is a new born that has his whole life in front of him (even if he lives to be 100)

3) Flash will never be a media for sale of content. why
--- a) it is extremely expensive, no one will ever sell 50 cent drives even if we assumed they could be made for the necessary size at that price, that is why you can't buy 8mb cards any more, when the bigger ones become cheap enough the smaller ones get dumped
--- b) the benefit of the disk is that it is replicated, plastic goes in and a working disk comes out, it takes seconds to make a BD, Flash can't be replicated, it needs to be manufactured and then the data needs to be transferred, even if we assume it is extremely fast 50GB (or what ever the size will be) will take minutes per film.
--- c) you talk of 2$ a GB, but for 50GB that would cost 100$ to create the flash + at least an other 20$ for transferring the data (time is money), that brings it to 120$ on the other hand the price is more then 100* too big.
--- d) there is no benefit. Do people say "I hate disks, give me flash"? Do studios say "flash would be better"? Do CEs say "we don't like making disk players we can make some profit off of, we would rather make cheap flash readers that most people get free anyways"? Why would anyone push for a change from disk to flash (unless there is a real change which disk can’t handle)

Agree with this.

And decent flash media is still way off. SSD is stupidly expensive, i bought 2 16 GB P2 cards for £1,000 ($1,600).

[JillyBean819]

My guess is that we'll be forced to go back to VHS simply because they are more sturdy. I could drop kick a VHS movie, body-slam it, then punch it and it would still play back the movie.

[anomynous]

It better have a laser 7 output

[[1080-p]]

Originally Posted by dvdking21

I was just wondering If anyone had a Idea what would come after Blu-ray? Will we still be using physical discs? Will there be a higher resolution then
1080P? I know I'm crazy for asking this because Blu-ray Is just beginning to become popular, but I've always been Interested how movies would be In the future.

i hope we still have optical discs even higher res.
because i read a dumb article in pcplus about life after blu-ray that everything would be online which a load of rubbish because not everyone has internet or want it

[[1080-p]]

Originally Posted by JillyBean819

My guess is that we'll be forced to go back to VHS simply because they are more sturdy. I could drop kick a VHS movie, body-slam it, then punch it and it would still play back the movie.

i find that hard to believe because i can knock the screws right out a vhs

[Grumpz]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

yup, enough said, that is the most ridiculous thing I ever read.

1) chances are that disks will still be mainstream with most of the market even in 10 years

2) if anything will be around for more then 10 years and extremely healthy then calling it almost dead is just nuts. everything will eventually disappear but is that is the definition of almost dead then you and I are almost dead as well and so is a new born that has his whole life in front of him (even if he lives to be 100)

3) Flash will never be a media for sale of content. why
--- a) it is extremely expensive, no one will ever sell 50 cent drives even if we assumed they could be made for the necessary size at that price, that is why you can't buy 8mb cards any more, when the bigger ones become cheap enough the smaller ones get dumped
--- b) the benefit of the disk is that it is replicated, plastic goes in and a working disk comes out, it takes seconds to make a BD, Flash can't be replicated, it needs to be manufactured and then the data needs to be transferred, even if we assume it is extremely fast 50GB (or what ever the size will be) will take minutes per film.
--- c) you talk of 2$ a GB, but for 50GB that would cost 100$ to create the flash + at least an other 20$ for transferring the data (time is money), that brings it to 120$ on the other hand the price is more then 100* too big.
--- d) there is no benefit. Do people say "I hate disks, give me flash"? Do studios say "flash would be better"? Do CEs say "we don't like making disk players we can make some profit off of, we would rather make cheap flash readers that most people get free anyways"? Why would anyone push for a change from disk to flash (unless there is a real change which disk can’t handle)

Originally Posted by Aygie

Agree with this.

And decent flash media is still way off. SSD is stupidly expensive, i bought 2 16 GB P2 cards for £1,000 ($1,600).

You both assume flash media will stay exactly the same as the technology advances. The first flash drive I had was as volatile as TNT. The cruzer I use now, heck, I don't even eject it or stop it's service through windows as directed. Had it 8 months and haven't lost a bit of information.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Grumpz

You both assume flash media will stay exactly the same as the technology advances. The first flash drive I had was as volatile as TNT. The cruzer I use now, heck, I don't even eject it or stop it's service through windows as directed. Had it 8 months and haven't lost a bit of information.

no I just don't assume impossible things will happen. The issue is not that they remain the same but that no one can afford to make cheap flash. Does Intel still make a Pentium chip? does any one still make an 8mb SD card? The answer is no, why tech advanced and those are to old to be profitable. This is what happens, new chip/flash comes out which performs better, it has a premium price, older stuff gets knocked down a peg and the oldest (cheapest) stops getting made. The issue is this. No one will manufacture a flash drive/card that sells for less then 1$, in order for it to be used for packaged movies it needs to be less then that, so that once you add recording, printing (You want to know what movie it is) and packaging it is a reasonable price.


I don't know if one day there will be 20$ 1 TB drives, but that is un interesting, will there ever be .25$ 50GB drives in bulk? then we can talk about a flash distribution system, replacing disks.

[Grumpz]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

no I just don't assume impossible things will happen. The issue is not that they remain the same but that no one can afford to make cheap flash. Does Intel still make a Pentium chip? does any one still make an 8mb SD card? The answer is no, why tech advanced and those are to old to be profitable. This is what happens, new chip/flash comes out which performs better, it has a premium price, older stuff gets knocked down a peg and the oldest (cheapest) stops getting made. The issue is this. No one will manufacture a flash drive/card that sells for less then 1$, in order for it to be used for packaged movies it needs to be less then that, so that once you add recording, printing (You want to know what movie it is) and packaging it is a reasonable price.


I don't know if one day there will be 20$ 1 TB drives, but that is un interesting, will there ever be .25$ 50GB drives in bulk? then we can talk about a flash distribution system, replacing disks.

You seem intelligent so I don't understand your stubborness towards change. They'll be printing, yes, that's right, printing batteries soon. What makes you think they can't print flash memory for dirt cheap.

http://www.topnews.in/now-print-batt...tube-ink-26482

This debate comes up and I simply put forth my views on technology. The way it stands today, disks are king. The way technology is advancing, you'd be delusional to think that spinning disks are the media of the future.

Are you implying that bluray is the best science can come up with? All it is, is a high capacity CD. Surely science has more to offer than that.

[VoodooSamurai]

hopefully they will go right to 4K instead of try to milk it with 2K then 4K

[[1080-p]]

Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood

hopefully they will go right to 4K instead of try to milk it with 2K then 4K

would even be nice if http://www.electronista.com/articles...jector.4k.cam/ came on the market or a hdtv that can match Dell 3007WFP xhd 2560x1600p with a fast refresh rate
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1

[[1080-p]]

Originally Posted by Diesel

The studios will beam movies directly into our skulls starting in 2015

sounds painful and funny haha