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Suntory_Times · 08-26-2009, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I would upgrade my DVD of Metropolis to BD if it were to be release

The fact that it is also coming with an extra (I believe 25 minutes, as they found the missing fottage) just makes it so much more a must buy for me.

tron3 · 08-26-2009, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by beardmoen

Thought I would chime in for Metropolis. The Blu will feature the restored version.

http://www.cinematical.com/2008/07/0...ssing-footage/

It should be noted that the 'original' version that has been discovered is 25 minuted longer. I cannot find out if it is 25 minutes longer than the restored version from 2003 or from the cut version that most of us grew up with.

Been a year since that article. How long does it take to restore 25 minutes? They must be still debating where to insert it in the film.

Thread on this last year. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=54352

Suntory_Times · 08-26-2009, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tron3

Been a year since that article. How long does it take to restore 25 minutes? They must be still debating where to insert it in the film.

Thread on this last year. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=54352

They may have already done it, but are waiting for an opportune option ti release it (I'm guessing it will be shown at film festivals first).

syncguy · 08-26-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by wallendo

For 16 fps, the easiest way to encode it would be to play it back at 15 fps and encode it at 1080i by doubling each frame. The slow-down might bother purists, but it would give the smoothest motion.

Yes, in principle this will work well at 1080/60i and the display should be able to reconstruct 30p. However, this relies on the capability of the display or player to deinterlace perfectly to obtain original 30p. A less than perfect deinterlacer may introduce deinterlacing errors and may not be able to reconstruct the original 30p picture.

camaro · 08-26-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

They may have already done it, but are waiting for an opportune option ti release it (I'm guessing it will be shown at film festivals first).

I just actually read an updated article on this. I don't have the link but it was saying the film had just been delievered for restoration about a month ago! So it took them most of a year just to get the discovered film from point A to point B. From the article though it did sound like it's getting a really great restoration treatment!

Suntory_Times · 08-26-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro

I just actually read an updated article on this. I don't have the link but it was saying the film had just been delievered for restoration about a month ago! So it took them most of a year just to get the discovered film from point A to point B. From the article though it did sound like it's getting a really great restoration treatment!

Interesting, though I can wait. I've loved the film as I currently can view it for years, another year or so I'm okay with. I hope this new restoration helps it become more known with the 'younger' crowd, its such a great film and I fell is a must see.

Knapsack · 08-26-2009, 07:32 PM

I have heard unsubstantiated rumors that Buster Keaton's The General (1927) may soon make its way to Blu-ray. It recently received a really thorough restoration, so this doesn't seem too far-fetched. Kino's "Ultimate Edition" DVD of the restoration was totally disappointing (a single layer disc!), so I hope the rumors are true.

huffy · 08-26-2009, 08:28 PM

Like some others have said, I'm not sure that it would be worth it for some silent films. I just got Kino's DVD of The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, and while it was certainly a better looking picture the the previous DVD release I saw (which was barely viewable) it wasn't exactly pristine. There's only so much you can do with some prints.
I am looking forward to Sunrise however.

Knapsack · 08-26-2009, 10:08 PM

There are also somewhat substantiated rumors that the Criterion Collection is acquiring the rights to the Charlie Chaplin estate. If so, Blu-ray versions of some of his silent features are certainly a possibility. I'm keeping my fingers crossed! As far as silents go, I'd love to have The Circus and City Lights on Blu. Modern Times and The Great Dictator would be welcomed as well.

Al_The_Strange · 08-26-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Knapsack

There are also somewhat substantiated rumors that the Criterion Collection is acquiring the rights to the Charlie Chaplin estate. If so, Blu-ray versions of some of his silent features are certainly a possibility. I'm keeping my fingers crossed! As far as silents go, I'd love to have The Circus and City Lights on Blu. Modern Times and The Great Dictator would be welcomed as well.

That would be glorious.

monkeyjb1988 · 08-27-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Octavio

Chaplin himself HATED stereophonic tracks. I dunno what he would think about his movies being remastered in 7.1

He might return from death just to stop that!

A lossless mono track would be perfect IMO. The Chaplin Collection released by MK2 and Warner includes both flavors: Mono and 5.1.
I largely prefer the mono tracks, that's the way his movies were intended to be heard.

Don't get me wrong. When I say loseless, I don't also mean 5.1. I can deal with mono if it's at least loseless.

syncguy · 08-27-2009, 01:27 PM

lossless mono track will be good. A stereo track may be able to simulate a live orchestra used with silent movies.

Knapsack · 08-27-2009, 05:40 PM

There are three Mary Pickford DVD releases that should be coming out next year. They are The Poor Little Rich Girl (1917), The Hoodlum (1919), and a new restoration of Sparrows (1926).

I've been told by the man behind the restorations and transfers that they have been mastered in 1080i. He is trying to persuade Milestone Film and Video to release the films on both DVD and Blu-ray. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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08-26-2009, 07:32 PM	#47
Knapsack Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Seattle, WA 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:541 DVD collection:204	I have heard unsubstantiated rumors that Buster Keaton's The General (1927) may soon make its way to Blu-ray. It recently received a really thorough restoration, so this doesn't seem too far-fetched. Kino's "Ultimate Edition" DVD of the restoration was totally disappointing (a single layer disc!), so I hope the rumors are true.

08-26-2009, 08:28 PM	#48
huffy New Member Member since:Aug 2009 Blu-ray collection:27	Like some others have said, I'm not sure that it would be worth it for some silent films. I just got Kino's DVD of The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, and while it was certainly a better looking picture the the previous DVD release I saw (which was barely viewable) it wasn't exactly pristine. There's only so much you can do with some prints. I am looking forward to Sunrise however.

08-26-2009, 10:08 PM	#49
Knapsack Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Seattle, WA 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:541 DVD collection:204	There are also somewhat substantiated rumors that the Criterion Collection is acquiring the rights to the Charlie Chaplin estate. If so, Blu-ray versions of some of his silent features are certainly a possibility. I'm keeping my fingers crossed! As far as silents go, I'd love to have The Circus and City Lights on Blu. Modern Times and The Great Dictator would be welcomed as well.

08-27-2009, 01:27 PM	#52
syncguy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008	lossless mono track will be good. A stereo track may be able to simulate a live orchestra used with silent movies.

08-27-2009, 05:40 PM	#53
Knapsack Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Seattle, WA 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:541 DVD collection:204	There are three Mary Pickford DVD releases that should be coming out next year. They are The Poor Little Rich Girl (1917), The Hoodlum (1919), and a new restoration of Sparrows (1926). I've been told by the man behind the restorations and transfers that they have been mastered in 1080i. He is trying to persuade Milestone Film and Video to release the films on both DVD and Blu-ray. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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