Teen girl arrested for Twilight Piracy

[agoofykindasuperman]

hey those companies put a lot of thought and effort into those commercials and obviously don't want people pirating them and posting them on YouTube for all the world to see! It only makes perfect sense for the arrest.

[Sponge-worthy]

Originally Posted by Ator the Invincible

I'm actually kind of bothered that the manager even involved the cops. He should have confronted the girl himself. Kick her out if need be, but were the authorities really needed here? Come on!

I would imagine the big theater conglomerates have incentives for employees who bust pirates.

[vega2K]

I think the girl should post a picture of the Manager (with her new camera) and the location of the theater so that someone could go over there and beat the sh!t out of him.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Wow... she could have at least picked some material worthy of the trouble; even if she didn't get any footage from the film.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by SDon1969

So the teen girl was 22 years old?

I was wondering as well??????

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Psychonaut

Was the offense piracy or having Twilight paraphernalia on her?

[agoofykindasuperman]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

I was wondering as well??????

Wow still eh.... I suggest you go back and read more instead of stopping at the one post and making your own comment on it! lol

[Ator the Invincible]

Originally Posted by ryan69969

I would imagine the big theater conglomerates have incentives for employees who bust pirates.

Back when I was a theater employee, we would have attempted to deal with it ourselves before causing a scene with police officers. It's sad how things have changed,

[kevinbr100]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

Can you cite some law? Almost 100% positive such laws do not exist in Florida. Not sure about Illinois, where this took place. Also pretty sure the federal acts do not allow for such powers.

under the federal law she could get up to 3 years in prison for a first offense. 5 years if she was doing it for profit. 2 or more offenses have a max of up to 20 years i think.

the reward program from mpaa for theater employees, there may be other reward programs
http://www.fightfilmtheft.org/en/todo.asp


first case using new federal law 2005
http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybe...isburyPlea.htm

actual text of federal law 2005
http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/pl109-9.html
http://www.fightfilmtheft.org/pdfs/U...ordStatute.pdf

someone already posted a link to an article saying the charges were dropped. which they should be as accidental recording does not show intent, and most law you have to show intent to violate the law, but that doesnt mean that you have to know its illegal or not, merely that you intended to do what you were doing.

as far as powers of arrest, that is on a state by state basis(edited: actually this authority is also in the federal statute). the power to detain and immunity from liability or criminal charges for detaining someone is essentially power of arrest beyond what ordinary citizens have with a citizens arrest.

in california where i live (florida law i posted below calif). falls under the same category as loss prevention services for a retail store.
PC490.5.
(f) (1) A merchant may detain a person for a reasonable time for
the purpose of conducting an investigation in a reasonable manner
whenever the merchant has probable cause to believe the person to be
detained is attempting to unlawfully take or has unlawfully taken
merchandise from the merchant's premises.
A theater owner may detain a person for a reasonable time for the
purpose of conducting an investigation in a reasonable manner
whenever the theater owner has probable cause to believe the person
to be detained is attempting to operate a video recording device
within the premises of a motion picture theater without the authority
of the owner of the theater.


your state of florida law
540.12 Unlawful use of a recording device in a motion picture theater.--
(4) IMMUNITY.--A theater owner may detain, in a reasonable manner and for a reasonable period, any person whom the owner has probable cause to believe has violated or is violating this section. A law enforcement officer shall be called to the scene immediately after the person is detained. The theater owner may not be held liable in any civil or criminal action arising out of measures taken in the course of detaining the person while awaiting the arrival of a law enforcement officer, unless the plaintiff can show by clear and convincing evidence that the measures were manifestly unreasonable or the period of detention was unreasonably long.

[Batman1980]

Thank God for stalwart theatre employees and police officers who keep the world safe from piracy of mediocre movies.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by kevinbr100

your state of florida law
540.12 Unlawful use of a recording device in a motion picture theater.--
(4) IMMUNITY.--A theater owner may detain, in a reasonable manner and for a reasonable period, any person whom the owner has probable cause to believe has violated or is violating this section. A law enforcement officer shall be called to the scene immediately after the person is detained. The theater owner may not be held liable in any civil or criminal action arising out of measures taken in the course of detaining the person while awaiting the arrival of a law enforcement officer, unless the plaintiff can show by clear and convincing evidence that the measures were manifestly unreasonable or the period of detention was unreasonably long.

LOL well played.

I won't quibble that "detain" doesn't necessarily mean "arrest," but I see the point.

[Ator the Invincible]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

LOL well played.

I won't quibble that "detain" doesn't necessarily mean "arrest," but I see the point.

What a silly law anyway. That'd be the day I'd actually stay put because a theater owner told me to. At least I'd get a good belly laugh as I walked out the door.

And regardless, the law as written actually says theater OWNER, not manager. There's a loophole for lawyers to exploit right there. I don't believe I've ever been at a theater where the owner was even in the same state. And I used to work at one.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by SDon1969

So the teen girl was 22 years old?

That is exactly what I was thinking, how can she be a teen at 22? I would expect reporters to know the difference, oh well! maybe not?

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

That is exactly what I was thinking, how can she be a teen at 22?

Maybe she looks young for her age. Ha!

[bogo5]

no girl deserves their life or a bit of it thrown away in jail over this petty crap. so stupid. pile of crap laws. absurd if she went to jail.