which version of Casino Royale to get?

[david118383]

I'm looking to pick up Casino Royale but don't know which version to get. I don't care about extras, and the first one is cheaper. Does one version have superior A/V quality to the other or are both about the same?

[blu_sharpy]

They both have the same transfers, its just the extras and packaging that differ.

[jw]

Price- I'd get first one
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[GGX]

I suggest the Australian import for the full uncut presentation.

[Bageara]

The review on this site suggests that the collectors edition has an improvment in AQ

[blu_sharpy]

Originally Posted by Bageara

The review on this site suggests that the collectors edition has an improvment in AQ

Yeah, but they have both been reviewed by different people, so you cannot really judge it based on that.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by GGX

I suggest the Australian import for the full uncut presentation.

That's the one to get.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by GGX

I suggest the Australian import for the full uncut presentation.

How many more minutes of screen time is added in the uncut edition? Does it make a difference?

[A Tortured Duckling]

The C.E is less than $15 at Wal-Mart right now, so for a $2-3 difference i would definitely go for that one, rather than the first release. I haven't heard the LPCM 5.1 (48kHz, 16-bit) AQ from the non C.E version but the Dolby TrueHD 5.1 definitely sounds fantastic. Anyway, like i said, for a mere $2-3 difference i'd go for the C.E.

[Sussudio]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

How many more minutes of screen time is added in the uncut edition? Does it make a difference?

If I recall it's under a minute?

[SymbioticFunction]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

How many more minutes of screen time is added in the uncut edition? Does it make a difference?

It makes a big difference to the impact of the fight scenes. Details:

- After an overhead shot of Bond and the contact smashing down a wall, the first and last few frames of a shot of Bond elbowing the contact in the chest are removed.

- Directly after, a shot Bond smashing the door into the contact's face is completely removed.

- After Bond gets to his feet, he kicks the contact in the face. This is missing from the US version.

- Directly after, we see Bond grabbing the contact, who in turn grabs a garbage can, which he hurls at Bond. In the US version, we only get the last few frames of this.

- When Bond hauls the contact to his feet and manouevres him towards another sink, the start of a low angle shot showing the contact's face as he struggles is cut.

- The drowning of the contact is dramatically shortened. First, a close-up of the contact as he is held under is replaced with a shot of the contact's legs kicking.

- Directly after, a close-up of Bond's intense face is removed.

- Following this, we cut back to the contact as his struggles weaken. This is missing in the US version.

- The high shot showing Obanno's bodyguard hitting the ground below after being thrown over the banister is removed. This shot is placed between Bond and Obanno fighting.

- A close-up of Obanno as Bond smashes his head into a window, shattering it, is missing from US version.

- Directly after, a wider shot of Obanno recovering and attacking again is cut due to the previous trim.

- The first few frames of Obanno being thrown into a wall are missing in the US version.

- Obanno grabbing Vesper's leg as she tries to run away is completely removed.

- The following shot of Vesper falling but stopping herself in time is cut due to the previous shot's removal.

- After we see Vesper try to open the emergency exit, a wide shot of Bond shoving Obanno back is missing from the US version.

- Directly following, a wide shot of BG2 falling back is also missing.

- Afterwards, Obanno reacting as Bond kicks him is too cut.

- Obanno rams Bond against the wall, but not in the US version.

- When Bond and Obanno struggle on the floor, Bond chokes BG2. The second angle of Obanno's feet kicking is removed.

- After we see Obanno's face, we see him reaching for the gun on the ground. Missing from the US version.

- A wider shot of them struggling is cut directly after.

- The next shot, Obanno reaching for the gun again, is cut. In the US version, we only see Obanno reaching for the gun just before Vesper intervenes.

- A shot of frightened Vesper breaks a shot of Obanno's legs starting to stop kicking. In the uncut version, the legs starting to slow is in one continuous shot, followed by the frightened Vesper shot.

Source: http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=10779

[dra172]

So glad you asked the second edition has Dolby Digital Tru-HD audio the first edition is a lossless PCM, I would prefer the second if you have an HD Receiver otherwise it really does not matter

[refnulf]

get the deluxe version.

[Alexios Cassius]

Originally Posted by refnulf

get the deluxe version.

It's better to get French Collector's Edition than UK Deluxe Edition. According to one of the reviews at Amazon.co.uk UK edition has torture scenes cut out.

[Daredevil666]

Yes get the australian or french. The US disc is absolute garbage, it's a flawed presentation of the movie as is the english disc. Go for the full uncut version not the tamed down version with violence removed. Would you buy Dirty Harry with 1mn of violence cut ? Or From Russia With Love with the train fight edited / censored for TV, and be happy with it ? I hope not.

[refnulf]

Originally Posted by Alexios Cassius

It's better to get French Collector's Edition than UK Deluxe Edition. According to one of the reviews at Amazon.co.uk UK edition has torture scenes cut out.

Seems to be sold out.

[Kryptonic]

Originally Posted by Alexios Cassius

It's better to get French Collector's Edition than UK Deluxe Edition. According to one of the reviews at Amazon.co.uk UK edition has torture scenes cut out.

I bought the French edition a few months ago and yes, it is the complete uncut version. It's certainly more expensive (Around $30 with shipping) than the US edition, but for me it was worth it.

[Alexios Cassius]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

I bought the French edition a few months ago and yes, it is the complete uncut version. It's certainly more expensive (Around $30 with shipping) than the US edition, but for me it was worth it.

They sell 1-disc edition for that price here in Russia. And there is no collector's edition on Blu-ray here at all. If those French sellers would deal with the customer from Russia, I'd certainly buy it from them, but I am unable to complete the checkout on Amazon.fr with any of them. And I couldn't find either Australian or French version on e-bay. Even on ebay.fr there are only US/UK versions.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

I bought the French edition a few months ago and yes, it is the complete uncut version. It's certainly more expensive (Around $30 with shipping) than the US edition, but for me it was worth it.

I also have the uncut French release of Casino Royale, and you're absolutely right about it being the version to own. It really cleans up the choppy fight scenes, I can't recommend it enough.

[iliveinparis1006]

Originally Posted by david118383

I'm looking to pick up Casino Royale but don't know which version to get. I don't care about extras, and the first one is cheaper. Does one version have superior A/V quality to the other or are both about the same?

If you can, get the collector's edition, the Audio is excellent, I have both versions, and the collector's is superior.