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Old 07-15-2010, 08:19 PM   #41
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The fact that he referred to a group of African Americans as a "Pack" is very telling.

The word "Gang" is telling enough, but "Pack"? Yikes.
Yeah, that's what I thought too - his comment there is a pretty significant reflection on his viewpoint of black people.
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Old 07-15-2010, 08:55 PM   #42
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I can only wait to see what Jesse Jackson will say about this.. lol should be more entertaining than the Lebron nonsense.. This time he actually has something to work with instead of just making up crap. No race baiting need.


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Old 07-15-2010, 09:01 PM   #43
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goes to show what a lunatic he is and deserves to be locked up and banned from film premiere and filmfest till he comes to his senses
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:27 PM   #44
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If it was Spike Lee the most racist man in hollywood there wouldn't be a problem but then again he is black so he gets a pass. The only thing Mel Gibson is guilty of is being a drunk and saying stupid things.

Whoopi Goldberg on Mel Gibson 'after having him in my home I cannot say he is a racist'.

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Old 07-15-2010, 11:10 PM   #45
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So I'm guessing Mel's career is done? It seems that they keep releasing more and more tapes of him just completely going off on his woman.
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Old 07-15-2010, 11:44 PM   #46
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So I'm guessing Mel's career is done? It seems that they keep releasing more and more tapes of him just completely going off on his woman.
He doesn't do a lot of acting roles lately no but I still think he's an excellent behind the camera guy and I hope he continues in that role.
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Old 07-15-2010, 11:50 PM   #47
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Definitely..he needs to get back behind the camera and do what he does best...but who will go to see his movies after this? These rant tapes are everywhere.
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Old 07-15-2010, 11:51 PM   #48
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Definitely..he needs to get back behind the camera and do what he does best...but who will go to see his movies after this? These rant tapes are everywhere.
I think people will like that, it's nice to see someone in Hollywood be so real, in the day of Twitter and so much paparazzi.
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:29 AM   #49
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If it was Spike Lee the most racist man in hollywood there wouldn't be a problem but then again he is black so he gets a pass. The only thing Mel Gibson is guilty of is being a drunk and saying stupid things.

Whoopi Goldberg on Mel Gibson 'after having him in my home I cannot say he is a racist'.
My wife told me about Whoopie's comments on The View the other day about Gibson, and I must say that I have new-found respect for her (just a little, mind you). She admitted that when she's angry at someone (e.g., road-ragey), she'll cuss someone out using whatever ammunition is available to her (race, creed, sex, religion, ethnicity, etc.) at whoever the individual is, regardless of their race, creed, ethnicity, etc. She commented that if Mel Gibson was a racist, then she must be also.

I applaud her for her honesty, and would argue that most people would probably do the same thing when they are hopping-mad about something. The self-righteous who may claim they would NEVER do something like that are lying to themselves or the rest of us. Using a racial epitath on occasion does NOT necessarily make someone a racist, but it's a term many love to throw around when it furthers their agenda.
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Experts Say Gibson Tapes Fabricated & Ex-Wife Support

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The Mel Gibson tape saga has taken a new twist with claims that the recordings were fabricated emerging as the actor's soon-to-be ex-wife of 28 years comes out in support for him.

Gibson, 54, allegedly spews a torrent of abuse on the tapes at his estranged partner, Oksana Grigorieva.

But experts have cast doubt on the tapes' authenticity.

Creative Forensic Services chief Arlo West, who has worked on a number of high profile crimes in the United States, says the recordings are of "extraordinary" quality and appear to have been made using a professional-standard microphone.

"In the tapes themselves there are several things that would raise a red flag as an expert," Mr West told Good Morning America.

"I found gaps, transients and fades. All three of these things would be considered in authenticating the audio itself."

Gibson and Grigorieva are locked in a bitter legal battle over custody of their eight-month-old daughter, Lucia.

The series of recordings were leaked during the past week to celebrity gossip website RadarOnline.com.

They allegedly feature the Oscar-winning Braveheart director using racist language to disparage a Hispanic cleaning lady.

In earlier tapes Gibson referred to black people as "******s," called Grigorieva a "*****" and a "***** in heat", and apparently acknowledged beating her.

While they have not been authenticated, Gibson has not issued any denial since they began surfacing on Friday.

But website TMZ reports that his lawyers are preparing to present evidence that the tapes have been tampered with.

A second expert, Frank Piazza, who worked on the Jon Benet Ramsey murder case 14 years ago, supported Mr West's assertion.

"There are redactions, things were taken out, there were obviously things people didn't want others to hear," Mr Piazza told HollywoodLife.com.

Detectives investigating Gibson for the possible domestic violence case say they have received audio recordings from a court deciding the actor-director's child custody case.

Sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore said the CDs were turned over during a closed session in the custody case.

The speculation comes as Gibson's soon-to-be ex-wife Robyn reportedly filed a declaration in support of the star.

Robyn Gibson said in the document her husband of 28 years had never physically abused her or any of their children, TMZ.com reported.

"Mel never engaged in any physical abuse of any kind toward me before, during or after our marriage," the one-page declaration states.

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She adds: "Mel was a wonderful and loving father."

Sheriff's spokesman Whitmore said detectives were working to authenticate the recordings released by the court.

He did not say how many recordings were included or how long they were.

It is unclear whether the recordings include those that have been posted by the celebrity website RadarOnline.com.

The site has posted more than 20 minutes of recordings of arguments between a man who sounds distinctly like Gibson and a woman identified by the site as Grigorieva.

Whitmore said detectives still hoped to speak to Gibson, who has not yet been interviewed.

Detectives are looking into allegations that Gibson harmed Grigorieva during a January confrontation.

He said he would not speculate on when the case would be turned over to prosecutors, who will decide whether Gibson should face criminal charges.

"It's not going to be rushed," Whitmore said.

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My wife told me about Whoopie's comments on The View the other day about Gibson, and I must say that I have new-found respect for her (just a little, mind you). She admitted that when she's angry at someone (e.g., road-ragey), she'll cuss someone out using whatever ammunition is available to her (race, creed, sex, religion, ethnicity, etc.) at whoever the individual is, regardless of their race, creed, ethnicity, etc. She commented that if Mel Gibson was a racist, then she must be also.

I applaud her for her honesty, and would argue that most people would probably do the same thing when they are hopping-mad about something. The self-righteous who may claim they would NEVER do something like that are lying to themselves or the rest of us. Using a racial epitath on occasion does NOT necessarily make someone a racist, but it's a term many love to throw around when it furthers their agenda.
Agreed, if your in an angry enough state, you will call African Americans '******s', especially when your screaming and ranting... your not in a calm enough state to take a breath and think "I cant use that word" and say 'african american' instead. Its just a natural reaction. Black people would do the same thing to white people, its what anger does, doesn't make you a racist.

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Old 07-16-2010, 07:05 AM   #51
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If it was Spike Lee the most racist man in hollywood there wouldn't be a problem but then again he is black so he gets a pass. The only thing Mel Gibson is guilty of is being a drunk and saying stupid things.

Whoopi Goldberg on Mel Gibson 'after having him in my home I cannot say he is a racist'.
Yet Whoopi is clearly wrong in this one.

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She commented that if Mel Gibson was a racist, then she must be also.
Not surprised that she is at all.

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Old 07-16-2010, 08:02 AM   #52
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Yet Whoopi is clearly wrong in this one.
How do you figure that? She knows him, we don't.
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Agreed, if your in an angry enough state, you will call African Americans '******s', especially when your screaming and ranting... your not in a calm enough state to take a breath and think "I cant use that word" and say 'african american' instead. Its just a natural reaction. Black people would do the same thing to white people, its what anger does, doesn't make you a racist.
Of course it doesn't and you make a great point. Its gone a bit mad in America at the moment where if you say something stupid you are suddenly a racist or homophobic. Mel Gibson is still a powerful figure in Hollywood so i reckon his career won't suffer too much. The only thing he needs to do is to realise he has a drinking problem and get some professional help.
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The thread title needs to be corrected on this, it needs to be loses and not looses. Sorry, but it just bugs me everytime I see it.
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The thread title needs to be corrected on this, it needs to be loses and not looses. Sorry, but it just bugs me everytime I see it.
I can't believe I did that....

I'm usually one of the grammar/spelling police.

If there is a Mod in the house, can you correct, please?

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Old 07-16-2010, 01:06 PM   #56
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My wife told me about Whoopie's comments on The View the other day about Gibson, and I must say that I have new-found respect for her (just a little, mind you). She admitted that when she's angry at someone (e.g., road-ragey), she'll cuss someone out using whatever ammunition is available to her (race, creed, sex, religion, ethnicity, etc.) at whoever the individual is, regardless of their race, creed, ethnicity, etc. She commented that if Mel Gibson was a racist, then she must be also.

I applaud her for her honesty, and would argue that most people would probably do the same thing when they are hopping-mad about something. The self-righteous who may claim they would NEVER do something like that are lying to themselves or the rest of us. Using a racial epitath on occasion does NOT necessarily make someone a racist, but it's a term many love to throw around when it furthers their agenda.
You don't have to be self righteous to claim that you don't throw around racial slurs and not be lying. Perhaps I was raised differently then you, but in my mind - I never think to use those terms when mad.

Sorry, I think if you go around throwing out demeaning slang about someone's ethnicity - there must be some underlying current there.

So, I guess we can all applaud Whoopie for only using racists slurs when in the privacy of her own vehicle. . . *slow clap*. (But yes, quite refreshing to hear such honesty on a talk show.)
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Agreed, if your in an angry enough state, you will call African Americans '******s', especially when your screaming and ranting... your not in a calm enough state to take a breath and think "I cant use that word" and say 'african american' instead. Its just a natural reaction. Black people would do the same thing to white people, its what anger does, doesn't make you a racist.
The same thing happened to Michael Richards when he lost it because of a heckler.
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Old 07-16-2010, 02:33 PM   #58
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You don't have to be self righteous to claim that you don't throw around racial slurs and not be lying. Perhaps I was raised differently then you, but in my mind - I never think to use those terms when mad.

Sorry, I think if you go around throwing out demeaning slang about someone's ethnicity - there must be some underlying current there.

So, I guess we can all applaud Whoopie for only using racists slurs when in the privacy of her own vehicle. . . *slow clap*. (But yes, quite refreshing to hear such honesty on a talk show.)
Exactly, throwing out racist terms when you are mad doesn't make it any better.. I sure as hell don't call a black person the N word if I'm mad at him or a white person a C if mad.

And Whoopi saying Mel isn't a racists doesn't make it so, it is clear as day he is from the audio tapes (unless those clips aren't his voice). Maybe Whoopi can tell us all that Hitler believed in equality, somebody might actually believe her which would be sad.

As to why he is so racists, who knows.
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His yelling at the mother of his baby is indefensible. I can't believe anyone would try to support it.
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