HD DVD Press Conference.

[dialog_gvf]

That's it?!

[The Guardian]

wow is it just me or was there no good news for HD DVD in that whole thing at all? In fact possibly even bad news with the hints that the Venturer could be $300?

[JBlacklow]

Apparently. DVD Times should have a liveblog with pics up soon. For now, at least, it looks like the HD DVD frothing may die down a bit.

[GaS]

Maybe they are giving up Europe to BD.

[gandley]

the best bit was

Right, Microsoft has taken the stage. Poor guy. Everyone's leaving.

but was that it......?? Now i know why thay had to shell out 150milion, without it they were down and out.


So 1 new PC recorder. and a couple more tosh players. an expensive Onkyo player (that wont sit well with the HD-DVD price sensitive crew) and a slightly cheaper chinese player (that will be the holy grail of the HD-DVD price sensitive crew).

Sounds like whoopie cushon to me. But but, Warner were going to annouce being exclusive??

I hope for them they have more for CEDIA, because Blu Ray just owned them at IFA so far.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by gandley

the best bit was



but was that it......?? Now i know why thay had to shell out 150milion, without it they were down and out.


So 1 new PC recorder. and a couple more tosh players. an expensive Onkyo player (that wont sit well with the HD-DVD price sensitive crew) and a slightly cheaper chinese player (that will be the holy grail of the HD-DVD price sensitive crew).

Sounds like whoopie cushon to me. But but, Warner were going to annouce being exclusive??

I hope for them they have more for CEDIA, because Blu Ray just owned them at IFA so far.

I'm like Gary on the bottom of the last page: "That's it?!"

Where's the rest of it? Where's the shock and awe that was supposed to put fear in our hearts following the Paramount news and the Venturer news that may not even be the super cheap option they were hoping it would be anyways?

This is downright embarassing for them. They'd be pray they have something more going for them at CEDIA then what this non-show was!

[Bombthroat]

I can't believe they didn't have anything to counter all the Blu-ray announcements yesterday. Add to that their "cheap" Chinese player looks like it will cost $300 and you have a total loss.

Now, let's see all the software announcements at CEDIA.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Bombthroat

I can't believe they didn't have anything to counter all the Blu-ray announcements yesterday. Add to that their "cheap" Chinese player looks like it will cost $300 and you have a total loss.

Now, let's see all the software announcements at Cedia.

It looks like they did indeed blow all their big news these last couple of weeks to try and FUD and front run another round of electronics' shows where they have and do absolutely nothing.

They're getting blown out (again) at this IFA show.

[phloyd]

Yeah, there was nothing really new there.

Very strange, I kinda expected something new...

[joeorc]

Originally Posted by gandley

the best bit was



but was that it......?? Now i know why thay had to shell out 150milion, without it they were down and out.


So 1 new PC recorder. and a couple more tosh players. an expensive Onkyo player (that wont sit well with the HD-DVD price sensitive crew) and a slightly cheaper chinese player (that will be the holy grail of the HD-DVD price sensitive crew).

Sounds like whoopie cushon to me. But but, Warner were going to annouce being exclusive??

I hope for them they have more for CEDIA, because Blu Ray just owned them at IFA so far.

MY FAV. was this QUOTE:
The HD-DVD player for Xbox sees a price decrease to 179 euros. You'll also get 5 free titles with this one as well. This is seen by him to be the easiest way to get into HD. (Clearly not if you're not a gamer. And, this directly contradicts what the previous guy said about gamers not actually being a massive market for HD-DVD).

Acer, HP, Samsung, Asus, Rock, LG, Gateway, Alpine, Onkyo. All companies who are working with HD-DVD.

notice all the companies were listed on the BDA...what he is saying
IE: Were getting absorbed....into the blu-ray format...

Board of Directors
Apple, Inc.
Dell
HP
Hitachi
LG
Mitsubishi Electric
Panasonic
Pioneer
Philips
Samsung
Sharp
Sony
Sun Microsystems
TDK
Thomson
Twentieth Century Fox
Walt Disney
Warner Bros.



Contributors

Acer
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Almedio Inc.
Alticast
Aplix Corporation
ArcSoft, Inc.
AudioDev AB
Broadcom Corporation
Canon Inc.

China Hualu Group Co., Ltd.
CMC Magnetics Corporation
Coding Technologies GmbH
Cryptography Research Inc.
CyberLink Corp.
DATARIUS Technologies GmbH
Daxon Technology Inc.
D-Box Technologies Inc.
DCA Inc.
Deluxe Media Services Inc.
Dolby Laboratories Inc.
DTS, Inc.
Esmertec

FUJIFILM Corporation
Fujitsu Ltd.

Funai Electric Co., Ltd.
Gibson Guitar Corp.
Imation Corp.
InterVideo Inc.
Kenwood Corporation

Lenovo
Lionsgate Entertainment
LITE-ON IT Corporation
LSI Logic
MediaTek Inc.
Meridian Audio Ltd.
Mitsubishi Kagaku Media Co.Ltd.
Mitsui Chemicals Inc.

Monster Cable Products
Moser Baer India Limited
NEC Electronics Corporation
Nero
Pixela Corporation
Prodisc Technology Inc.
Pulstec Industrial Co., Ltd.
Ricoh Co., Ltd.
Ritek Corporation
ShibaSoku Co. Ltd.
Sigma Designs Inc.

Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
Sonic Solutions
Sonopress
Sony BMG Music Entertainment
ST Microelectronics
Sunext
Taiyo Yuden Co., Ltd.,
Victor Company of Japan, Ltd.
Visionare Corporation
Zentek Technology Japan, Inc.
ZOOtech Ltd.
Zoran Corporation



Members

Adobe Systems

Alpine Electronics Inc.
Arima Devices Corporation
ashampoo GmbH & Co. KG

Atmel Corporation

Avid Development GmbH
BASF AG
B.H.A. Corporation
Bose Corporation
B&W Group
The Cannery
Cheertek Inc.
Cinram Manufacturing Inc.
CustomFlix Labs, Inc.

Custom Technology Inc.
D&M holdings, Inc.
Daewoo Electronics Corporation
Daikin Industries, Ltd.
Eclipse Data Technologies
Elpida Memory, Inc.
Expert Magnetics Corp.

Falcon Technologies International
Fujitsu Ten Ltd.
GalleryPlayer Media Networks
Gear Software

Global Machinery Co., Ltd.
Hie Electronics, Inc.
Hoei Sangyo Co., Ltd

Horizon Semiconductor.
IMAGICA Corp.
INFODISC Technology Co., Ltd.
Infomedia Inc.
Intersil Corporation
Iwatsu Test Instruments

Kobe Steel Co. Ltd.
Konica Minolta Opto Inc.
Lauda Co. Ltd.
Lead Data Inc.
LEADER ELECTRONICS CORP
Linn Products Ltd.
LINTEC Corporation
M2 Engineering AB
MainConcept AG
Mitsumi Electric Co., Ltd.
Must Technology Co., Ltd.
MX Production Services

NEC Personal Products Ltd.
Netflix Inc.
Newtech Infosystems Inc.
NexWave Solutions
Nichia Corporation
Nikkatsu Corporation
NTT Electronics Corporation
nVidia Corporation
OC Oerlikon Balzer AG
Omnibus Japan Inc.
Onkyo Corporation
Online Media Technologies Ltd.
Ono Sokki Co., Ltd.
OPT Corporation

Optodisc Technology Corporation
Origin Electric Co., Ltd.
Osmosys SA

Pico House

Plannet Associates
PoINT Software & Systems GmbH
Pony Canyon Enterprise
Primera Technology, Inc.
Q-TEC, Inc.
Quanta Storage Inc.
Rimage Corporation
Sanyo Electric Co., Ltd.
Dr. Schwab Inspection Technology GmbH
Singulus Technologies
Targray Technology International Inc.
TEAC Corporation
Teijin Chemicals Ltd.

Texas Instruments, Inc.
THX Ltd.
Toei Video Company Ltd.
Toho Company, Ltd.
Toppan Printing Co., Ltd.
TOPTICA Photonics AG
Trailer Park
UmeDisc Ltd.

Universal Music Group, Inc.

VideACE Inc.
Yamaha Corporation
Yokogawa Electric Corporation
1K Studios, LLC

[tvted]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

That's it?!

Don't forget the HD talking point:
BD announces everything, frothing at the mouth only to retract or delay later. HD PRG being more astute and subtler, of course only announces when things are confirmed.

Let's see how CEDIA is handled - their thrust is obviously America first then the world.

ted

[JTK]

Originally Posted by phloyd

Yeah, there was nothing really new there.

Very strange, I kinda expected something new...

I didn't.

After they bribed Paramount and had that Venturer news come out, the FUD and lies and frenzy have been at all time high.

^^ Classic coverup tactics. Same old straw man tactics they've been using for the last two years now, at least.

There is no more signifigant news for them.

I'll bet you here and now CEDIA will be more or less the same non event for HD-DVD as well.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by The Guardian

wow is it just me or was there no good news for HD DVD in that whole thing at all? In fact possibly even bad news with the hints that the Venturer could be $300?

I didn't think Venturer was in Europe. So, the competition is so little that a fab-less CE in Markham Ontario can corner the word market on Chinese made HD DVD players?

300 Euros = US$408

Gary

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by tvted

Let's see how CEDIA is handled - their thrust is obviously America first then the world.

Ignoring the world is a rather moronic strategy nowdays. The world outside North America accounts for 60% of the Hollywood box office. Then there is their own domestic movie industries.

Gary

[Blu-Style]

So,

Can someone shortly explain what´s new... or what´s worth to talk about ?!

[joeorc]

Originally Posted by JTK

It looks like they did indeed blow all their big news these last couple of weeks to try and FUD and front run another round of electronics' shows where they have and do absolutely nothing.

They're getting blown out (again) at this IFA show.

and the Hitachi news for blu-ray has yet to be released.....

[mattym]

if that venturer comes in at $300 then that proves that toshiba have been not only taking a bath, but having a body scrub and full wax on its players...

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by tvted

Don't forget the HD talking point:
BD announces everything, frothing at the mouth only to retract or delay later. HD PRG being more astute and subtler, of course only announces when things are confirmed.

Like HD DVD-R/RW burners for March 2006?
Like those 600 HD DVD for the end of 2007 (notice, it is now 400)?
Like the Broadcom/Microsoft Chinese players for June?
Like 2.5 million, no 1.8 million, no 1.2 million, no 600K players for 2007?

[JTK]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Ignoring the world is a rather moronic strategy nowdays. The world outside North America accounts for 60% of the Hollywood box office. Then there is their own domestic movie industries.

Gary

Exactly.

People need to remember the worldwide perspective a lot more on all of this.

There are countries in Europe and around the world where HD-DVD is literally DOA for all intents and purposes.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by mattym

if that venturer comes in at $300 then that proves that toshiba have been not only taking a bath, but having a body scrub and full wax on its players...

It can't. How can a $299 no-name compete with a $299 Toshiba? It HAS to be $199, or they might as well not bother.

Gary