Netflix's "Locke & Key" (Season 1) - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

Resettito · 02-10-2020, 09:38 AM

What a disappointment. Only watched two episodes, wanted to stop after the first but am mildly curious to see how the rest is. The comic book is quite good and this is, as many have said, a PG13, dare I say PG, extremely tame version of it, going for whimsical I guess instead of the much darker comics.

It's a big problem but the main one is that it looks incredibly nondescript. It bums me out that Netflix decided to throw away a pilot directed by Andy goddam Muschietti who imo is an excellent director with a real eye, very visual. So yeah, the show here looks very TVish, very plain, flat, boring.

The comics is begging for a really low key, shadowy, mysterious, intriguing visual approach, with actual flair and scale. The acting is pretty subpar as well so far. The writing (Joe Hill co-wrote some episodes) is bleh. And it feels rushed.

I can't believe they went through all of this, two canned pilots, an aborted trilogy of low budget films to make this. There's no intrigue, no tension, it's shot in the most boring (and downright amateurish at times, awful, awful drone shots in there too) way, too many changes.

I've seen a ton of negativity from fans but it seems casual viewers are liking it more, that's the advantage of not knowing what they ****ed up.

By the way, Mark Romanek's 2011 pilot is available on Vimeo. It too feels very TVish, networky (Fox at the time) but it is so much more faithful, stronger cast and writing too.

theusher · 02-10-2020, 12:14 PM

Yep, this is straight out of Carlton Cuse's school of vanilla-TV show making. They pointlessly changed key aspects of the original story and drained every bit of suspense and intrigue out of it. It's not even about the more horror aspect of it. They then topped it off with bad actors and awful directing. Shame since this could've been even bigger than Stranger Things with a more competent team behind it.

Lovemy3D · 02-10-2020, 02:09 PM

I don't know about comics because I've never been into them. But almost any time you're into the written version of a story the filmed version is going to disappoint. There are a few exceptions, for me Lord Of The Rings is one example. I couldn't stand the written version mostly because I didn't like the writing style but the movies were wonderful.

I'm on episode 5 right now. Still enjoying it. I usually prefer a more mature style of show but I can have fun with something like this now and then. It's alright. Going to try to finish the rest sometime today or tonight.

Lovemy3D · 02-10-2020, 08:49 PM

I'm at episode 10 but getting too tired. Going to sleep for a while and finish the last episode when I wake up.

Maybe it's not what the comic is. But for someone that has no idea what the real story is, it's a fun show.

I've watched the first 9 episodes without ever once getting bored or wanting to switch to something else. So that's something at least.

There is always something fun and interesting going on.

Resettito · 02-11-2020, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lovemy3D

I don't know about comics because I've never been into them. But almost any time you're into the written version of a story the filmed version is going to disappoint. There are a few exceptions, for me Lord Of The Rings is one example. I couldn't stand the written version mostly because I didn't like the writing style but the movies were wonderful.

I'm on episode 5 right now. Still enjoying it. I usually prefer a more mature style of show but I can have fun with something like this now and then. It's alright. Going to try to finish the rest sometime today or tonight.

Yeah......... This isn't that. I'm someone who's extremely open to it, and as a filmmaker, I understand changes made, compressing time, things that don't translate, but this is not just huge changes, this is just badly executed and directed, uninspired. Low grade TV. And when you see so many people pointing this out, in addition to poor acting overall, you know something's up. Opinions and all but it's rare for people to complain about that sort of stuff for a TV series.

Lovemy3D · 02-11-2020, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Resettito

Yeah......... This isn't that. I'm someone who's extremely open to it, and as a filmmaker, I understand changes made, compressing time, things that don't translate, but this is not just huge changes, this is just badly executed and directed, uninspired. Low grade TV. And when you see so many people pointing this out, in addition to poor acting overall, you know something's up. Opinions and all but it's rare for people to complain about that sort of stuff for a TV series.

Well I could definitely see the cheese factor, so know what you're saying. But I still enjoyed it over all and had fun watching it. I did like the characters, I liked the house. I liked all the weird events. And as mentioned it held my interest all the way through and I never got bored during the first season. So I'm in. I'll watch more of it, if there is more to come.

Morsoth · 02-11-2020, 12:46 AM

The key here (pun intended) is not to compare it to the comic. The comic will have its own sequel soon, and the series is its own thing.

Usure · 08-11-2022, 10:54 PM

Season 3 is airing!

just finished episode 3, and......

BODE, what have you done?!

wingzero · 08-13-2022, 03:19 AM

Just finished watching the final season

Pondosinatra · 08-13-2022, 04:07 AM

Thought half of S1 was good...then it went off the rails.

Haven't watched S2 and won't watch S3.

Read the books instead.

02-10-2020, 09:38 AM	#1
Resettito Special Member Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:57	What a disappointment. Only watched two episodes, wanted to stop after the first but am mildly curious to see how the rest is. The comic book is quite good and this is, as many have said, a PG13, dare I say PG, extremely tame version of it, going for whimsical I guess instead of the much darker comics. It's a big problem but the main one is that it looks incredibly nondescript. It bums me out that Netflix decided to throw away a pilot directed by Andy goddam Muschietti who imo is an excellent director with a real eye, very visual. So yeah, the show here looks very TVish, very plain, flat, boring. The comics is begging for a really low key, shadowy, mysterious, intriguing visual approach, with actual flair and scale. The acting is pretty subpar as well so far. The writing (Joe Hill co-wrote some episodes) is bleh. And it feels rushed. I can't believe they went through all of this, two canned pilots, an aborted trilogy of low budget films to make this. There's no intrigue, no tension, it's shot in the most boring (and downright amateurish at times, awful, awful drone shots in there too) way, too many changes. I've seen a ton of negativity from fans but it seems casual viewers are liking it more, that's the advantage of not knowing what they ***ed up. By the way, Mark Romanek's 2011 pilot is available on Vimeo. It too feels very TVish, networky (Fox at the time) but it is so much more faithful, stronger cast and writing too. Last edited by Resettito; 02-10-2020 at 09:46 AM.*

02-10-2020, 08:49 PM	#4
Lovemy3D Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2010 Blu-ray reviews:2	I'm at episode 10 but getting too tired. Going to sleep for a while and finish the last episode when I wake up. Maybe it's not what the comic is. But for someone that has no idea what the real story is, it's a fun show. I've watched the first 9 episodes without ever once getting bored or wanting to switch to something else. So that's something at least. There is always something fun and interesting going on. Last edited by Lovemy3D; 02-10-2020 at 08:53 PM.

02-10-2020, 12:14 PM	#2
theusher Expert Member Member since:Aug 2012 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:280	Yep, this is straight out of Carlton Cuse's school of vanilla-TV show making. They pointlessly changed key aspects of the original story and drained every bit of suspense and intrigue out of it. It's not even about the more horror aspect of it. They then topped it off with bad actors and awful directing. Shame since this could've been even bigger than Stranger Things with a more competent team behind it.

02-10-2020, 02:09 PM	#3
Lovemy3D Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2010 Blu-ray reviews:2	I don't know about comics because I've never been into them. But almost any time you're into the written version of a story the filmed version is going to disappoint. There are a few exceptions, for me Lord Of The Rings is one example. I couldn't stand the written version mostly because I didn't like the writing style but the movies were wonderful. I'm on episode 5 right now. Still enjoying it. I usually prefer a more mature style of show but I can have fun with something like this now and then. It's alright. Going to try to finish the rest sometime today or tonight.

02-11-2020, 12:46 AM	#7
Morsoth Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	The key here (pun intended) is not to compare it to the comic. The comic will have its own sequel soon, and the series is its own thing.

08-11-2022, 10:54 PM	#8
Usure Expert Member Member since:Dec 2012 Location:336 Trading Score:1	Season 3 is airing! just finished episode 3, and...... BODE, what have you done?!

08-13-2022, 03:19 AM	#9
wingzero Senior Member Member since:Jun 2017 Location:new zealand 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:953 DVD collection:3 Trading Score:2	Just finished watching the final season

08-13-2022, 04:07 AM	#10
Pondosinatra Banned Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Calgary, Alberta Home Theater Gallery:45 Trading Score:2	Thought half of S1 was good...then it went off the rails. Haven't watched S2 and won't watch S3. Read the books instead.

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