The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011) Review Thread (Spoilers)

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by tommyboy81

people that commented on that link are upset that Daniel Craig is swearing to much and that he should carry himself more like an adult. Give me a break, it shows he's like one of us IMO

Originally Posted by BStecke

Never got what the big deal is with swearing.

Used sparingly, it has effect, cramming it in where it is unnecessary is very unprofessional and unneeded. He can swear, but kids can see that interview and see swearing is not condemned.

[kernel_thai]

Originally Posted by dmaul1114

I'm not a fan of Rooney's look in this either. But as long as the movie is great, I'll get over it.
I thought the Swedish version with Noomi Rapace really nailed what I envisioned Lisbeth to look like when I read the books though.

I like the Rooney's look better. Rapace's look was a little imposing. I never got that from the novel. Certainly Salander could be very menacing, mostly she wanted her look to be leave me alone not leave me alone or i'll kick ur ass

[csdot]

Originally Posted by kernel_thai

I like the Rooney's look better. Rapace's look was a little imposing. I never got that from the novel. Certainly Salander could be very menacing, mostly she wanted her look to be leave me alone not leave me alone or i'll kick ur ass

this.
dont get me wrong, i loved Noomi as Lisbeth but as far as capturing the look of the character from the book she seemed a little too tough.

[BStecke]

I'm really looking forward to the soundtrack for this. I'm excited for it anyway, but I really want to see what Reznor/Ross are going to do. On the other hand, it's holding up any new material from NIN

[csdot]

Originally Posted by BStecke

I'm really looking forward to the soundtrack for this. I'm excited for it anyway, but I really want to see what Reznor/Ross are going to do. On the other hand, it's holding up any new material from NIN

i agree on all points. cant wait to hear the score but come on Trent give us some more NIN!!

[kernel_thai]

Originally Posted by csdot

this.
dont get me wrong, i loved Noomi as Lisbeth but as far as capturing the look of the character from the book she seemed a little too tough.

I totally agree.

There is an interview with Rooney Mara in the EW Fall Movie Preview. There is also a snippet from it on EWonline.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/08/1...ara-interview/

[djkest]

I just finished reading "TGWTDT" and then I read the synopsis for the swedish film. I was amazed at how much they changed for the movie, stuff that really didn't need to be changed. For example...

[Show spoiler]Lisbeth solves the numerical code instead of Michael Blomkvist's daughter giving him a clue to solve that mystery

[Show spoiler]Lisbeth coming up to Martin Vanger after the accident and watching him die

[Show spoiler]Lisbeth being startled by Michael Blomkvist with another girl in her bed

and finally

[Show spoiler]Lisbeth hacking into Michael's computer during the investigation to keep tabs on him. She does this in the book but before he was contracted with the Vangers, not after

I will watch the Swedish film and also the American film when it comes out. It seems from what I've read so far the American version will be both more true to the book and also more well made. It comes out on my birthday!

[ZoetMB]

IMO, the first two films are quite good and are as true to the book as any film adaptation can be and they're certainly true to the books' spirit. It's always quite difficult to capture a long novel in a two-hour film. Don't judge a film by a summary of the book - read the book!

I thought the third film was a big disappointment. It looked cheap and it wasn't directed well. Things that should have had big emotional impact didn't and important details were glossed over as if the director/writer just wanted to get them out of the way because they were bored with them.

The third film has a different ending than the book. But rumor has it that Fincher has also changed the ending of his film from the book. So I expect Fincher's film to vary just as much from the book as the original film adaptations did, actually more, because I think Fincher has a bigger ego and feels like he has something to prove.

I hope Fincher doesn't lose the concept that Lisbeth is

[Show spoiler]probably autistic and that everyone is surprised about how smart she actually is. She just doesn't relate to people well.

I shouldn't pre-judge the film, but I have a feeling that Fincher is going to play up the violence. I hope he doesn't make it exploitive. Larrson was deeply affected by violence to women and I think he would be offended if the movie is prurient in that regard. For the most part, the first book is really the unravelling of a mystery, and it's not a mystery about Lisbeth. It's not an action story. The mystery is not that big a deal - it's really a tired cliche taken to an extreme.

[Show spoiler](Was there ever any real case where a Nazi who survived the war became a mass murderer AND was involved in incest in civilian life?)

It's Lisbeth's role in solving it that makes it interesting.

[kernel_thai]

The biggest change I notice in the Swedish version was

[Show spoiler] Anita Vanger was deceased instead of living in London. No clue why they did that except to save paying an actor. The Lisbet hacking Blomkvist's computer was to set up her solving the numbers which again only seemed to save the cost of an actor to play Blomkvist's daughter. The other big change was why Lisbet left Blomkvist at the end. In the book her mother had another stroke while in the movie she simply ran for it.

Generally I liked the way the Swedish version simplified things. The first half of the novel was weighted down with the Vanger family tree and Swedish history. All that stuff had to go for pacing and length.

[djkest]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

IMO, the first two films are quite good and are as true to the book as any film adaptation can be and they're certainly true to the books' spirit. It's always quite difficult to capture a long novel in a two-hour film. Don't judge a film by a summary of the book - read the book!

I did read the book, thoroughly, which is why it was easy to see at least 4 places in whiched the story was changed for convenience. From the swedish film plot synopsis, it does seem like a lot of the nuance of Lisbeth Salander has been changed.

Also, to the above poster:

[Show spoiler]In the book, Lisbeth's mother doesn't have a second stroke, she dies. In the prologue to the first book, later on Lisbeth buys an elvis "heartbreak hotel" sign for Mikael's cabin in Sandham. She goes to give it to him, feeling that she is in love with him. She sees him getting close again to Erika Berger, and with anger and confusion she throws her expensive gift in a dumpster and runs off.

People have been pointing out that they are attempting to "reimagine" the film instead of just remaking it. IMO, they could get closer to the book with the US version. Will it be better? I certainly think it will be, with $100 million budget, Daniel Craig, and David Fincher involved. Plus the score will be amazing. Then again, I haven't see the Swedish version yet.

In an interview this year with USA today, Daniel Craig said:

"It's as adult as you can possibly make it. This is adult drama. I grew up, as we (expletive) all did, watching The Godfather and that, movies that were made for adults. And this is a $100 million R-rated movie. Nobody makes those anymore. And (director David) Fincher, he's not holding back. They've given him free rein. He showed me some scenes recently, and my hand was over my mouth, going, Are you (expletive) serious?"

The best-selling book does include murder, sodomy, rape, torture and more. "It's not that he simply showed me footage that was horribly graphic," Craig says. "It was stuff that was happening, or had happened. And somehow you don't see it."

What's that mean?

"There's more than one way to sense violence," he says. "Much more powerful ways than seeing it step-by-step."

[kernel_thai]

Originally Posted by djkest

I did read the book, thoroughly, which is why it was easy to see at least 4 places in whiched the story was changed for convenience. From the swedish film plot synopsis, it does seem like a lot of the nuance of Lisbeth Salander has been changed.

Also, to the above poster:

[Show spoiler]In the book, Lisbeth's mother doesn't have a second stroke, she dies. In the prologue to the first book, later on Lisbeth buys an elvis "heartbreak hotel" sign for Mikael's cabin in Sandham. She goes to give it to him, feeling that she is in love with him. She sees him getting close again to Erika Berger, and with anger and confusion she throws her expensive gift in a dumpster and runs off.

People have been pointing out that they are attempting to "reimagine" the film instead of just remaking it. IMO, they could get closer to the book with the US version. Will it be better? I certainly think it will be, with $100 million budget, Daniel Craig, and David Fincher involved. Plus the score will be amazing. Then again, I haven't see the Swedish version yet.

In an interview this year with USA today, Daniel Craig said:

U missed my point. Major spoiler!

[Show spoiler] In the movie, Salander leaves Blomkvist after she rescues him. There was no explanation that I recall but u got the feeling she was getting cold feet about a relationship. She leaves him a note about Harriet's location.

In the book, they get the location with the sting on Anita and r planning to go find Harriet together. That's when Lisbeth learns her mother had another stroke, a fatal one. After Blomkvist returns to Stockholm, Lisbet sees him with Berger and decides she cant compete. Tho the end result is the same, the explanation in the book is much more satisfying.

[DeanCorso]

Originally Posted by djkest

People have been pointing out that they are attempting to "reimagine" the film instead of just remaking it. IMO, they could get closer to the book with the US version. Will it be better? I certainly think it will be, with $100 million budget, Daniel Craig, and David Fincher involved. Plus the score will be amazing. Then again, I haven't see the Swedish version yet.

I for one i dont see it has a remake....i see it more has another adaptation of the book (afterall its the original source) its like Spielberg's War of The World it wasnt a remake of the original movie but another adaptation of HG Wells's book.

Will it be better? I certainly think it will be, with $100 million budget, Daniel Craig, and David Fincher involved. Plus the score will be amazing. Then again, I haven't see the Swedish version yet

Might be true (im saying that just because its Fincher) but Noomi Rapace's Lizbeth will be almost impossible to top, she was truly amazing!!.

[anomynous]

I'm surprised there's no real trailer yet

[Canada]

Originally Posted by dmaul1114

I'm not a fan of Rooney's look in this either. But as long as the movie is great, I'll get over it.

I thought the Swedish version with Noomi Rapace really nailed what I envisioned Lisbeth to look like when I read the books though.

Noomi Rapace (5,4) has an inch on Rooney Mara (5,3) I doubt with both of them being that short they can weigh than about 110 or 120 lbs which Salander was said to weigh about 100 lbs so both of there body types are similar to the way Larson described her.

[Canada]

Originally Posted by kernel_thai

I like the Rooney's look better. Rapace's look was a little imposing. I never got that from the novel. Certainly Salander could be very menacing, mostly she wanted her look to be leave me alone not leave me alone or i'll kick ur ass

I got that her look was imposing from the book, but that could be the way I was imagining she looked because I did watch the movie about three of four times before I started the book.

[ArrestedDevelopment]

A surprise 8 minute trailer was shown before (a) screening(s) of Straw Dogs.

Reaction from /Film:

The trailer is awesome. While some two minute trailers completely ruin an entire movie, this 8-minute piece gives you enough to understand the story but not so much that you feel like you’ve seen it all. Somehow it feels like just an enticing appetizer — a teaser trailer. So if you’re afraid of watching this if it is ever released more publicly, don’t be.

The look and tone is very sterile yet moody — a feel I would compare to Se7en, but shot on an updated version of the RED cameras that Fincher used to shoot The Social Network.

The score by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross feels unlike anything from Social Network. A mix of electronic beats and what sounded like a xylophone. The end of the trailer turned into fast cuts and the score elevated to a more intense rock-style track. I’m excited to hear more of Reznor’s score, especially now that it is clear that it sounds very different than his masterful work on The Social Network.

Rooney Mara commands every since shot she appears in. Even after having seen many photos and shots of her from the teaser trailer, I’m still shocked at how different she looks. Her mysterious look will draw the audience in.

The shots, as you might expect, are very controlled and highly composed. One shot that stuck out to me was a dolly in from behind Rooney Mara, which continued over her head and ended up in front of the actress with the camera framed upside-down. I hate describing these things and wish I just had a copy of the footage to show you guys.

After the trailer screened at AMC Century City, the audience applauded — something that is very unusual for a trailer.

More buzz (all positive except FilmFracture):

FirstShowing: “If you loved his Oscar winning score for The Social Network, just wait until you hear this. There were also plenty of Fincher’s amazingly sleek shots of Sweden and the various characters and locations involved in this intricate story, since it is clearly not just an Americanization of the novel. I’m already considerably excited for this movie, but this trailer was awesome.”

Film Stage: “Fincher’s keen sense of framing is here, along with his overall dark tone. … The grim humor from the novel is transferred here as well. … The score from Trent Reznor immediately impresses. The first six minutes of the trailer is more of his ambient work, with one section using a single repeated piano note to build tension”

ComingSoon: “The trailer is cut very tight and does a good job of setting up the film – typical Fincher tone, pace, picture color and camera framing are all over the trailer. The flashbacks did not seem out of place and had visuals that reminded me of Zodiac in that all images seemed to be within a certain time period. What I believe to be Trent Reznor’s score plays and is very much in line with what can be heard on the film’s official website.”

ScreenRant: Overall, the footage is loyal to the original, while showcasing an improvement in both visuals and music. Moreover, the editing style of both the teaser and this extended footage is most impressive. It warrants a mention that the film will likely be a dialogue-driven crime thriller with less of the frenetic pace of these trailers. That is a huge assumption, but considering the original films, one can expect it to be more plot-driven.

Anthony Breznican (EW): Dragon Tattoo footage was beautiful. Ice cold, sinister and haunting.

Movie City News: Glistening, gorgeous: the crystalline light in the nine-minute trailer for David Fincher‘s Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. … Swedish eggshell-to-matte-gray light allows color and dimension to pop in almost every image in the product reel.

Harry Knowles: Wow, the pure liquid shit of Rod Lurie’s STRAW DOGS has wiped the rather remarkable 8 min of Fincher’s Girl w/ the Dragon Tattoo from brain.

LatinoReview: The 8 minute Prologue/preview for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was damn good. Can’t wait to see the full movie already.

FilmFracture: Saw the uber-long teaser trailer for The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo tonight. Sad to say, but, I was not impressed.

http://www.slashfilm.com/minute-trai...dragon-tattoo/

[kernel_thai]

I want to see the 8 minute trailer now!!!!!!!!

[jvince]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD8NZhVE5Tg

[Hep]

Originally Posted by jvince

[Show spoiler]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD8NZhVE5Tg

That looks fantastic, thanks for posting.

[csdot]

looks great. as much as i love The Social Network, this is much more in Fincher's wheelhouse and i cant wait to check it out.