KO - Ayngaran Bluray Coming soon.

[DaemonAngel]

Originally Posted by csrini1

He said lipsync is bad, which every one knows, so that should not be a deal breaker in my opinion.

Thats just a personal opinion and we have watched worse lip-syncs - besides thats upto the audience - and if people have flocked to theaters for these dubbed movies, that argument doesnt hold water!

[Kobebucsfan]

Originally Posted by Shahran Sunny Audit

No Telugu track will be added. I prefer releasing the film in its orignal verison, with optional subtitles.

Dubbing is old school and pointless. Performances don't come across well, and lip sych is very bad.

other than copyright issues, u will make a huge mistake not including telugu dub. I'm not sure how including it will hurt , it will only help. Lot of american dvds have spanish or french dub option but doesn't mean the dvd isn't original.


I mean i have the Robo Bluray (Endhiran) and it came out before the tamil one

[arjun1591]

Sunny, it is NOT pointless and I agree with Kobebucsfan ALL THE WAYY!! +10000


Lots of American blurays include a foreign French AND SPanish audio track (if there's enough space, even lossless) and it helps the boost in sales..Similarly, a Telugu track will help in sales..Who cares if it is out of sync? The dubbed version Rangam was a bigger hit than other Telugu releases and that's because audiences liked it (I liked it so much I saw it four times)..Other than copyright issue, there is NO reason why they shouldnt include the track..

For an Indian company to start producing blurays isnt gonna make them up-to-date with Hollywood companies..They need to give us what customers want (in this case, an additional audio track).

[csrini1]

Originally Posted by DaemonAngel

Thats just a personal opinion and we have watched worse lip-syncs - besides thats upto the audience - and if people have flocked to theaters for these dubbed movies, that argument doesnt hold water!

yep, totally agree, they should not worry a lot about dubbing issues. sure, they can spend all the time and effort for tamil audio track, they should have additional telugu track, like how they have spanish/french dd tracks along with dts-hd english track.

[Kobebucsfan]

plz release Ko Bluray with telugu track, it will boost sales. ppl in Andhra sure didn't care that it was dubbed

[Shahran Sunny Audit]

I'm sure another company will release the Telugu version on blu-ray.

However, I firmly believe that a film should be watched as originally made by the film-maker. With subtitles you get to keep the actors' original performances, with all their nuances. Dubbing misses out on that.

[DaemonAngel]

Originally Posted by Shahran Sunny Audit

I'm sure another company will release the Telugu version on blu-ray.

We sure hope that happens - thats somewhat less desirable since that is uncertain at this time. And, Ayngaran's product is hard to beat!

However, I firmly believe that a film should be watched as originally made by the film-maker. With subtitles you get to keep the actors' original performances, with all their nuances. Dubbing misses out on that.

Well, again, I think its each person's choice what they regard works better for them - for most of us, following the on screen text takes attention away from the performances. And, we get to enjoy Telugu music we can relate to.

[csrini1]

Originally Posted by Shahran Sunny Audit

I'm sure another company will release the Telugu version on blu-ray.

However, I firmly believe that a film should be watched as originally made by the film-maker. With subtitles you get to keep the actors' original performances, with all their nuances. Dubbing misses out on that.

As much i hate to drag this conversation, not sure i understand "Dubbing misses out on that". Telugu folks have watched tons of dubbed movies and there are many instances, where telugu box office collected more revenue than the original. If there is matter in the movie, little lip-sync issues is not a problem at all!!
I hope you rethink, change your mind and add telugu track also. you may want to talk to other people at ayangaran or even the producers,(to see if the producer has telugu blu ray rights in the first place...)

[Shahran Sunny Audit]

I've already informed this forum, that no Telugu audio track will be included on the Ayngaran release.

I'm sure a Telugu distributor will release the dubbed version soon in HD (with Lossless audio!!!).

Just heard a Hindi remake is on the cards.

[ian959]

Firmly with Sunny on this one.

All films should be watched in their original language, using subtitles to help if you don't speak the language. Lip sync issues on dubs just aren't worth the loss of the original language and the inflections/nuances that the language provides. Used to drive me insane having to review DVDs where there was a dubbed track as nearly all of them lost the real meaning of the dialogue.

Even though I cannot speak the language of many films I watch, I know enough of the fundamentals of language to be able to understand a lot from the tone of the dialogue from the original language performance. You simply don't get that from dubs as they are mostly done by someone reading direct from a script without reference to the subtlety of the language.

Frankly, dubs should be banned from Blu-ray.

As for Telugu speakers having watched tons of dubbed films and made more money than the original language, well if true it simply highlights how poor the Telugu film industry is.

[-MK-]

Originally Posted by ian959

Firmly with Sunny on this one.

All films should be watched in their original language, using subtitles to help if you don't speak the language. Lip sync issues on dubs just aren't worth the loss of the original language and the inflections/nuances that the language provides. Used to drive me insane having to review DVDs where there was a dubbed track as nearly all of them lost the real meaning of the dialogue.

Even though I cannot speak the language of many films I watch, I know enough of the fundamentals of language to be able to understand a lot from the tone of the dialogue from the original language performance. You simply don't get that from dubs as they are mostly done by someone reading direct from a script without reference to the subtlety of the language.

Frankly, dubs should be banned from Blu-ray.

As for Telugu speakers having watched tons of dubbed films and made more money than the original language, well if true it simply highlights how poor the Telugu film industry is.

I personally agree with this except the last line even though Iam telugu speaker and i can't understand tamil. My first tamil movie was sivaji which was really good in original language i.e. tamil and from then i started watching tamil movies and now i don't even watch dubbed version anymore.

So i recommend everyone once you watch movie in their original language with subtitles and i bet that you wont go back to dubbed version

[Kobebucsfan]

omg its just a telugu audio track and its an option. i still dont understand ur logic. how could adding it hurt ? r u too lazy to add it or is ur opinion getting the best of u

[DaemonAngel]

Originally Posted by ian959

Frankly, dubs should be banned from Blu-ray.

Hmm.....care to explain why most Hollywood BluRays have ton of foreign language tracks not just subtitles???

As for Telugu speakers having watched tons of dubbed films and made more money than the original language, well if true it simply highlights how poor the Telugu film industry is.

You couldn't be any more wrong on this! If anything, it only proves how open minded and accommodating Telugu folks are - they care for any language that has better story line and better presentation . Telugu industry is not as small as you might think, you might want to do some research before passing judgments!

You are also ignorant of the fact that the languages are similar enough where nuances and subtleties are easily replicated and most people dubbing [reading the script] understand both languages - its not a dumb read and literal translation as you seem to think.

[Shahran Sunny Audit]

This old school mentality of dubbing needs to be broken. The recent surge of quality films from Turkey, Iran, South Korea, Japan, China & Russia has shown that releasing a film aboard with local subtitles can bring high revenue.

...and for those who think dubbing is great...just picture cinema classics like; Seven Samurai, Seventh Seal, or 400 blows dubbed into another language. It just seem so sacrilegious...

Also, why waste disc space on a dub DTS-MA track - when I can allocate that for other important means.

I can speak to Ayngaran CEO and see if he'll allow me to introduce Hindi, Telugu and Malayalam subtitles onto our blu-rays.

[Kobebucsfan]

Originally Posted by Shahran Sunny Audit

This old school mentality of dubbing needs to be broken. The recent surge of quality films from Turkey, Iran, South Korea, Japan, China & Russia has shown that releasing a film aboard with local subtitles can bring high revenue.

...and for those who think dubbing is great...just picture cinema classics like; Seven Samurai, Seventh Seal, or 400 blows dubbed into another language. It just seem so sacrilegious...

Also, why waste disc space on a dub DTS-MA track - when I can allocate that for other important means.

I can speak to Ayngaran CEO and see if he'll allow me to introduce Hindi, Telugu and Malayalam subtitles onto our blu-rays.

like i said, ur getting ur personal opinions get the best of u. if ppl had a choice of telugu dub or telugu subtitles, 99% would pick the telugu dub. Ur comparison is wrong, dubbing Japanese or Korean movies to english is bad. but dubbing tamil to telugu is not that much difference. A bluray company that doesn't include dub version when its clearly available to them is just LAZY. Rangam was a big hit in Andhra, why not sell the ayngaran blurays in andhra also with the telugu dub ?

[dr_vasanth]

Originally Posted by Kobebucsfan

like i said, ur getting ur personal opinions get the best of u. if ppl had a choice of telugu dub or telugu subtitles, 99% would pick the telugu dub. Ur comparison is wrong, dubbing Japanese or Korean movies to english is bad. but dubbing tamil to telugu is not that much difference. A bluray company that doesn't include dub version when its clearly available to them is just LAZY. Rangam was a big hit in Andhra, why not sell the ayngaran blurays in andhra also with the telugu dub ?

Is there a confirmation somewhere that the Telugu soundtrack was in fact made available to Ayngaran when they purchased the Blu-ray rights for 'Ko'? This whole debate may be pointless without that explicit confirmation, in the sense that Ayngaran may not be able to include a Telugu soundtrack even if they decided that they wanted to.

[DaemonAngel]

Originally Posted by dr_vasanth

Is there a confirmation somewhere that the Telugu soundtrack was in fact made available to Ayngaran when they purchased the Blu-ray rights for 'Ko'? .

No one said Ayngaran should include a track that they dont have or have rights for - If you followed this thread you should have already seen that question posed several times - this could have been moot a long time ago, if Sunny were to just say they dont have the rights.

[dr_vasanth]

Precisely my point - this whole debate could potentially see some sort of interim closure if we had a definitive answer to the issue of rights (for the Telugu market). For Sunny - it is a different issue whether Ayngaran wants to include a Telugu soundtrack or not for the upcoming 'Ko' blu-ray. But, does Ayngaran have the rights to do so if an executive decision is made at the highest levels to include a Telugu soundtrack? Or does some other company like Bhavani hold those rights?

[csrini1]

Right, and we were not even asking for telugu dts-hd or dd tru-hd track,which will take up more space, all we asked was a basic dts or dd 5.1 telugu track,IF they had home video rights in the first place.

[rajeshbrrip]

Hi Guys,
Can you make Bluray Blockbuster like Surya's Ghajini,Ulaganayagan Dhasavatharam,Super Stars Padaiyappa,Ultimate Star Ajiths God Father