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Old 06-20-2014, 03:07 PM   #41
Dynamo of Eternia Dynamo of Eternia is offline
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blu-rays are in no way less copyable. it's about as easy to rip a blu-ray as it is to rip a DVD.
Yeah, that's why I hate when they do these things that supposedly do more to protect a disc from being copied, but really just inconvenience the legit paying customer more than anything else.

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I think it's more annoying having the film load at the credits everytime I put a disc in that resumes.
I think it would be nice if the on-disc software didn't prevent the disc from being resumed, and the player, itself, could store where the discs left off. But then there should also be a very simple option on the player to clear out any and all save points. And individual save points should auto delete if you haven't put the disc back in after so much time, that way if someone goes to watch a movie a month or more later, it doesn't start at the credits.


That said, as much as the BD-J software annoys me when used badly, I do like when the discs do have the feature that asks if you want to continue where you last left off or start from the beginning. If they all had that, that would be fine, too.
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Old 06-21-2014, 01:38 PM   #42
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I think it's more annoying having the film load at the credits everytime I put a disc in that resumes. I have no issues with skipping/waiting for the pre-menu stuff.
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Old 06-21-2014, 01:49 PM   #43
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I noticed that the PS3 does but only for a while. It is weird as it seems I will throw in a disc I haven't watched for a while and it will jump right into it but with others it starts right from the beginning. But I think it depends on the studio that produces it as I know with some discs, everytime I start it I am starting fresh. Wouldn't be so bad except i really don't care to read those FBI warnings and such as I have read them for 30 years now.

BD has two "menu" options BDMV and BDJ. If the disk was produced using BDMV (the simplest tool) it will automatically resume.

If the disk is produced using BDJ it can't auto-resume because the player can't know what else it might need to know for the BDJ to work properly since BDJ could have a more complicated program behind it. Now if the disk uses BD-J then the studio could code in it an auto-resume feature or a pop-up.
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Old 06-21-2014, 02:23 PM   #44
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I think it would be nice if the on-disc software didn't prevent the disc from being resumed, and the player, itself, could store where the discs left off. But then there should also be a very simple option on the player to clear out any and all save points. And individual save points should auto delete if you haven't put the disc back in after so much time, that way if someone goes to watch a movie a month or more later, it doesn't start at the credits.
yeah but it would not solve anything, you will still get the guy complaining because he wanted to resume a month later and it has happened often enough when I re-watched a film more than once in the same week (usually when I saw a good film and then friends come by and they want to watch it as well).

It is also not that realistic the BDJ cookie (not sure if it is the right term) could have other info in it as well or be there for other info and not for a resume

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That said, as much as the BD-J software annoys me when used badly, I do like when the discs do have the feature that asks if you want to continue where you last left off or start from the beginning. If they all had that, that would be fine, too.
personally I find it annoying and I really don't get why anyone would want it. Pausing because you need to stoop for few minutes and you want to continue makes sense, needing to stop a film in the middle happens from time to time, personaly when it does I would rather restart but I get that for some it is more about wasting time then the film and so they would just rather continue. But even if someone would rather continue, unless the person only watches films 10 minutes at a time, here is the problem? right if someone watches 40 films and the 41st film needs to be stopped half way through and continued the next day and in those 40 films 10 are re-watched why is being annoyed for 10 films that you don't want the resume better then 1 where you do?


Personally what I would like as a better idea

1) disable resume bookmark at some point late in the film (for example once the credits start)
2) mark a film as watched and if it has been watched skip the BS (I like watching previews when I first watch that new film since it could lead me to something interesting but when I watched a film once and it is now several years later I really don't care about that film that came out on BD in 2006 if I was interested in it I would have already gotten it)
3) get rid of the pop up but add the resume in the menu if possible) (i.e. play movie , resume movie)


and honestly, it would be nice if they added (next version/format) some global variables such as resume, language, audio preference..... that you could set up on the player and read by BDJ (or what ever is used).
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the ideal thing, and I've seen it on maybe 2 discs, is to have the software ASK YOU if you'd like to resume or restart. THAT would be the suitable option for me. Then everyone has the exact same amount of work to do in order to meet their needs on equal footing.
My Oppo 103 seems to do that for all Blus except Universal's. If you stop a U disc, it goes back to the beginning of the disc, before piracy warnings, trailers, everything.
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:29 PM   #46
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Well... as an artist myself, I believe that I am very well entitled to my opinion. So, don't roll your eyes at me as if my opinion doesn't count for anything.

If you don't have time for a full film, you shouldn't start watching. People really need to learn some time management skills and slow down. I hear so much about people who rarely get any time for themselves at all. Many people I talk to actually consider their "running errands" time as their personal time! WTF is up with that? Has the media really been that successful in making us believe that we always need to be striving for 10 minutes ago? Why can't we make 2 hours available for ourselves these days to do something we enjoy uninterrupted? THIS is why CARS is such a crucial film for the next generation. Kids desperately need to learn the lesson that life needs to be enjoyed and should not be a race for inconsequential gains.
"if people don't have 2 hours to commit to a movie, they don't deserve to watch movies." get your head out of your ass. people have lives to live.
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Old 07-13-2014, 03:26 PM   #47
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There are two types of resume features being discussed here, the resume feature which only applies to the current disc and is inherent with the DVD format and BDMV discs for Blu-ray's, and a resume feature which is strictly offered by the player itself supporting multiple discs which in every case that I have seen can be turned off which I always do. That being said, I'd like to focus on the first resume feature described which is what I'd imagine the OP is asking about. The DVD format by its very nature always allows for resuming where you left off with respects to the current disc in the player as there is no Java <insert expletive here> to get in the way. During playback if you press stop once, so long as it isn't while on a menu screen or "user operation prohibited" (UOP) screen playback will start from that point when pressing play again even if the player has been powered off and then back on again and so long as the disc isn't removed in the interim. After pressing stop once if you don't intend to remove the disc before pressing play again and don't want playback to resume from where you've stopped it simply press stop a second time and playback will start from the beginning instead. In fact, every DVD player that I've owned when pressing stop once will state that playback will resume from that point and to press stop again to have playback start from the beginning instead. If pressing stop where playback can't resume from that point a message is displayed stating this and that playback will start from the beginning. This is the feature I wish were part of the Blu-ray format without exception. Sadly it isn't thanks to BD-J which leaves any resume functionality up to the way the disc is authored, the BD spec or whatever not requiring that BD-J discs include an initial pop-up if applicable asking if the user wants to resume playback or not. Fortunately, though specific discussion of this is prohibited here it is simple enough to roll your own BDMV disc on BD-R in turn providing for that universal resume functionality offered by the DVD format and in the process removing all the crap one is forced to sit through each and every time just to get to the feature presentation or top menu.
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Old 02-24-2015, 05:29 PM   #48
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My Sony SR-760HP player remembers the position of 5 different discs at a time. I think its a pretty cool feature although it may not sound very important. Lots of times i accidentally stop the playback and the resume feature is a godsend.
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It remembers every Blu-ray I have stopped part way. I have kids who change their mind about movies a lot. It picks up right where we left off. Love it.
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