Yeah, "parental advisory". For what age group? Are you okay when you're 13 years old? 16? 19? 21? Pretty vague, don't you think? And doesn't really do the job, but at least they're not censoring anything (unless a song is played on the radio, that is).
I was just respondng to your comment that music wasnt rated. like it says Parental advisory its up to parents to keep their kids away from explicit movies or songs not the goverment.
Proof does not change the mindset. People know smoking is unhealthy, yet millions still do and many start each year. There have been uproars. Most often I've heard people just respond with some sort of "stop pushing a religious agenda" etc. You do not need to be religious to care what your children are exposed too.
Studies that show violence/sex can have damaging effect for you reference. A quick Google search yields quite a few studies. I am not posting these to say violent movies should be banned, but more so, to show that research has been conducted to show that viewing violence and sex have negative impacts on children.
This is why we need a new rating system. Parents need to be able to make informed decisions on what their children are being exposed too.
I only looked at the first two "studies" and neither offered any definitive proof of a connection between violent media and violent behavior. Both simply noted that there was an increase in both things... and both reached for the conclusion that one simply must be related to the other.
Violent behavior is FAR too complex a subject to try to pin it on such a narrow cause. It is far more likely that other factors, not even taken into consideration at all in the first two studies you posted, play a far huger role than any media the kids might be looking at. Parenting surely plays the largest role. Is it not probable that many parents who allow their child to be exposed to just about anything in movies and on tv may well be lax in other areas of parenting as well? Like teaching their kids the basic difference between fantasy and reality... or even right from wrong?
Yeah, the studios are really hurting because nobody goes and sees them anymore .
Overall viewership is down compared to decades past, because of rising ticket and food prices, public debates about content issues, etc. The average family film still makes about 10 times that of its R-rated counterpart, which suggests far more people would rather have less language and explicit violence or sex, instead of more.
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Personally, I just think you're looking for a solution for a problem that doesn't exist. There has never been a study that proved that children are psychologically damaged by watching violence or nudity in movies. Just as never has been proved kids are damaged by video games, comic books, or the freaking Beatles.
There's been numerous studies done over the past 20 years or so; whether you choose to accept it is on you.
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And if you really want to make sure there's less suffering, then ban guns.
Guns don't do anything unless they're fired, the same as swords or knives sitting on a table, or grenades in a box without the pin pulled. Reckless people are to blame, not the weapons.
Guns don't do anything unless they're fired, the same as swords or knives sitting on a table, or grenades in a box without the pin pulled. Reckless people are to blame, not the weapons.
Do the people who support the ratings system let their children watch the news? How about reading the Bible? Or what about the violence that is discussed in History classes? Are those okay in comparison to some random Hollywood blockbuster? Where is the line?
This very issue was tackled in California with the video game law and we all know how that turned out for the pro-censorship groups. The problem is the individual, not the product they are using or viewing.
Here's a good analogy for what I'm talking about...
If you have a gun, it doesn't do anything unless its fired. However, you still want to protect your kid, so you keep it away from them, and vice versa. Similarly, protection in entertainment also goes both ways. Parents should keep their kids away from harmful content, but since the filmmakers and studios have control over the products, its their responsibility to reign such things in from the start.
I agree. This is a great example to show how broken the rating system is. One can not go by ratings, they must go by content.
I think there would be a problem with rating films by content. Simply because there are too many different things that too many different people find offensive. There are a lot of very sensitive people out there.
There are the current standard things, sex, nudity, violence, drug use, language, blood, tobacco use etc. But there are many other things that people could get upset about if the system "failed" to warn them.
Too religious (preachy)
Athiest themes
Racist themes
Misogynistic themes
Animal cruelty
Homsexual themes
Incest themes
Too Right wing
Too Left Wing
Genocide themes
The list could go on forever, and I think that it would be too cumbersome to be effective.
Here's a good analogy for what I'm talking about...
If you have a gun, it doesn't do anything unless its fired. However, you still want to protect your kid, so you keep it away from them, and vice versa. Similarly, protection in entertainment also goes both ways. Parents should keep their kids away from harmful content, but since the filmmakers and studios have control over the products, its their responsibility to reign such things in from the start.
agreed, they should, but ONLY their kids. seriously, it is NOT our job to parent others kids. if their parents think that it's fine to go see the latest freddy movie, then so be it. it's their prerogative.
I think there would be a problem with rating films by content. Simply because there are too many different things that too many different people find offensive. There are a lot of very sensitive people out there.
Oversensitive, if you ask me (especially the PC crowd). When the whole "offensive" deal comes up, I often think of this...
Overall viewership is down compared to decades past, because of rising ticket and food prices, public debates about content issues, etc. The average family film still makes about 10 times that of its R-rated counterpart, which suggests far more people would rather have less language and explicit violence or sex, instead of more.
Because there's a limitation on which people can go to an R-rated movie, as opposed one rated PG. Also, all of the huge blockbusters of the last decade have had a PG-13 rating at best, so it's not like you can properly compare the two.
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There's been numerous studies done over the past 20 years or so; whether you choose to accept it is on you.
Still, I don't think there has been conclusive evidence that a violent movie or game generally leads to violent episodes.
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Guns don't do anything unless they're fired, the same as swords or knives sitting on a table, or grenades in a box without the pin pulled. Reckless people are to blame, not the weapons.
Guns are made to be fired. That's their whole purpose. That's what they're made for. Just like swords are made to kill, and grenades.
And if you really want to make sure there's less suffering, then ban guns.
Funny, as that statement flies in the face of all studies that prove otherwise. A gun is an inanimate object, incapable of hurting anyone without a person with malicious intent wielding it. You really want to minimize suffering? Institute much harsher punishments for those who do CHOOSE to commit crimes.
Funny, as that statement flies in the face of all studies that prove otherwise. A gun is an inanimate object, incapable of hurting anyone without a person with malicious intent wielding it. You really want to minimize suffering? Institute much harsher punishments for those who do CHOOSE to commit crimes.
Yep, very true.
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Originally Posted by Uniquely
Parenting surely plays the largest role. Is it not probable that many parents who allow their child to be exposed to just about anything in movies and on tv may well be lax in other areas of parenting as well? Like teaching their kids the basic difference between fantasy and reality... or even right from wrong?
I agree. Good parenting is a crucial aspect.
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I think there would be a problem with rating films by content. Simply because there are too many different things that too many different people find offensive. There are a lot of very sensitive people out there.
There are the current standard things, sex, nudity, violence, drug use, language, blood, tobacco use etc. But there are many other things that people could get upset about if the system "failed" to warn them.
Too religious (preachy)
Athiest themes
Racist themes
Misogynistic themes
Animal cruelty
Homsexual themes
Incest themes
Too Right wing
Too Left Wing
Genocide themes
The list could go on forever, and I think that it would be too cumbersome to be effective.
I have no answers.
This is already happening, but not at a professional level. For example: Here is an idea of this concept already being put into place. I will use the site I mentioned in my first post to demonstrate how it currently breaks it down for John Carter:
[Show spoiler]
John Carter, a Civil War veteran (Taylor Kitsch) is mysteriously transported to Mars where he becomes immersed in the conflict between the various nations of the planet. When he meets a princess (Lynn Collins), he vows to help against her enemies. Also with Willem Dafoe, Thomas Haden Church, Ciaran Hinds, Samantha Morton, Daryl Sabara, Mark Strong and Dominic West. Directed by Andrew Stanton. [2:12]
SEX/NUDITY 2 - Human fighting uniforms and daily wear for men and women include short skirts, togas, or loincloths that reveal partial buttocks, leather strips that cover women's breasts reveal cleavage, and men's bare chests are shown as well as bare abdomens of both men and women. One man is bare-chested throughout the film and wears a loincloth. A Harem scene shows several women in floor length gowns that are slit up the front to the top of the thighs, with a cutout at the waistline that bares flesh and deep v-necks that reveal cleavage.
► A princess is forced into an arranged marriage with an evil prince, but she loves another man. A man proposes to a woman and she accepts; they marry and kiss briefly.
VIOLENCE/GORE 6 - Shape-shifters are male, bald, float in the air, and threaten the people of four warring factions; they shock many individuals with blue lightning that they emit from their hands and their victims are thrown into walls and rocks, and they change appearance, taking on the form of males, females, old, young, etc. as they spy on and threaten people in a sinister manner. Some aliens have large tusks projecting from the corners of their lower jaws and become entangled with each other during several arguments. The shape-shifters travel in a huge ship that uses many drilling legs on land to drain resources. Hundreds of reptilian eggs hatch slimy reptilian babies with 4 arms.
► Throughout the film four different civilizations on Mars, two human and two reptilian humanoid, war with one another: a dozen sword fights end in large piles of dead reptilian bodies with scratches and cuts (but little blood, except on a few swords), and we see men and women in hand-to-hand combat with swords and knives, using martial arts kicks, punches and throws; when moving toward a city they ride rhino-like beasts that have 6 or 8 legs, charging and raising sand clouds, and in three battles flying ships with glass feathers attack humans and aliens on the ground, shooting them with cannons and rifles (we see people fall, but no blood is visible).
► A man kills two alien apes using a long chain with a rock at the end and a sword: one of the apes swallows a female alien that fell into the area and another female alien helps the fight by throwing her spear into the shoulder of an ape (we see lot of blood on the shoulder); the human falls under the last ape, but cuts up through him with a sword, and we see a gash spurting blue blood (the human is covered in blue blood).
► A sinister man wearing black clothing follows another man, walks up behind him, shape-shifts into a bald man wearing a metallic robe, pulls a knife and we hear a gunshot as the stalker falls off screen, presumably dead.
► A man is chained several times to rocks, choked by a reptilian humanoid, and raised off the ground by his throat, but escapes each time. In a holding cell, a reptilian- humanoid and a man argue, and the reptilian collapses because guards have beaten him and he is severely bruised; the two are sent into an arena to fight two giant white apes with long fur, 6 legs and tusks; as they enter the arena they see the dried out bodies of humans and aliens that have fought there before, each pinned to the ground with a long spear.
► A disillusioned veteran gets into several fights in a general store: shots are fired but no one is struck, three soldiers overpower the vet and put him in a stockade cell where he punches anyone that approaches the cell, spits blood on the floor and urinates (we see the stream); the vet grabs one soldier that approaches his cell, chokes him, steals the keys and escapes on a stolen horse, soldiers chase him until a band of Apaches stops them, a man is wounded by gunfire (we see some blood) and the vet carries him to a cave.
► In a fight scene, a man jumps continually over a horde of aliens killing them all with his sword (we see little blood on his sword) and dead bodies pile on top of him; when he is uncovered he has a bloody nose and a few scrapes on his face. A man is shot in the buttocks and he shouts, but heals quickly (no blood is shown). Humans kill an alien with a punch and another alien says, "You killed him with one blow. You will fight for us." Adult reptilian humanoids fight over babies as they are hatched, grabbing them to keep, punching each other and stealing babies (no one is seriously harmed).
► We see a mausoleum behind a mansion and in flashbacks a man is shown digging graves, covering his dead daughter's legs with dirt and pounding a black cross into the gravesite. We hear that a man died suddenly in his study; in a flashback, we see him lying on the floor, and we see his body being carried into a mausoleum and placed on a slab (we hear that he was not embalmed). We see a man's body being carried into a mausoleum. A man experiences several flashbacks of his wife and young daughter and he mourns their death (he wears both his and his wife's wedding rings).
► A reptilian female is covered with scars and we see her branded as punishment (she gasps) because she is too independent; she receives a warning that there is no more room for brands and next time she will be executed.
► A man and his daughter scream loudly at each other about the future of their community. A man says that he used curare to fake his own death. A shape-shifter tells a human that all civilizations evolve into constant war and die, so shape-shifters manage civilizations and drain the resources at the point of a civilization's death.
► Several scenes show blue electricity in matrices in a cave, or around human legs or forearms, sparking and sometimes knocking people down, though without resultant marks or wounds. In a science lab, a large machine that projects blue-white energy explodes when an alien shape shifter sends his own blue energy into it; no one is harmed.
► A man and some aliens learn to fly one-seater aircraft, bouncing off the ground, grazing walls, scaring a crowd that runs off screaming and crashing through the walls of a wedding ceremony (no one is hurt).
► After touching an amulet that radiates blue-white energy, a man finds himself on a different planet and cannot walk; he falls on his face repeatedly, causing bruises and then learns to jump great heights in the lower gravity. Throughout the film a man jumps over obstacles, like bands of warriors, tall buildings and rock formations. A shape-shifter delivers a blue shock wave to a man and sends him to Earth; the man comes to in a cave, lying covered in filth and dust, groans in pain and slowly walks out and away.
► Apaches are fearful of a large spider carved above a cave entrance.
SUBSTANCE USE - We hear that a man took curare to fake his death. A bar in a general store sells bottles of beer and shots of whiskey and four men are shown drinking, a captured man on Mars drinks a food beverage that causes him to hallucinate distorted images and he passes out, and two couples in marriage ceremonies drink a holy blue beverage which may or may not be alcoholic.
DISCUSSION TOPICS - Fantasy and reality, space travel, extraterrestrial life, history, war, different races and beliefs, family, convictions, justice.
MESSAGE - Avoid prejudices and take up a cause you can be passionate about.
A section called Discussion Topics is where you would cover that list you mentioned. This is what I was referring to as an idea. If this was done professionally, and slightly modified, I think it could work.
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Funny, as that statement flies in the face of all studies that prove otherwise. A gun is an inanimate object, incapable of hurting anyone without a person...wielding it. You really want to minimize suffering? Institute much harsher punishments for those who do CHOOSE to commit crimes.
Absolutely. Generally, the US has made prison far too "normal" for criminals: three meals a day, warm beds, TV in some cases, etc....and the bulk of it is paid with taxpayers' funds. I think that when someone maliciously takes a life, abuses someone, or other such crimes, they shouldn't be treated with that much respect or decency. I'm not for cruelty in return, but crooks need to learn that severe punishments exist. Plus, we need to get rid of this "overcrowding" nonsense; I've heard of rapists and murderers being freed because of it. The saying is old, but still applicable: "if you do the crime, you will do the time".
if you really want to make sure there's less suffering, then ban guns.
Cars kill more people in a year than guns so lets ban cars
what about drunk drivers lets ban alcohol
people stab each other all the time lets ban knives
people get pushed out of windows to lets ban all buildings over one story high
people get electrocuted all the time lets ban electricity
so tell me where do you stop banning things so there is less suffering.
All of the members who were quick to jump on KubrickFan about his gun comment have misunderstood why he said it. He never implied that banning guns there in the U.S was the right course of action to stop gun related crime, all he was doing is pointing out to Moviefan that guns are involved in far more deaths than any movie, song or videogame, but for some ridiculous reason Moviefan agrees with your right to own a gun under your constitution, but disagrees with your free rights under the same constitution to be able to watch whatever content you want, which means Moviefan has double standards. You totally missed KubrickFan's point, due to how sensitive you all are about the word 'gun'.
Cevolution: Setting aside differences on studies done; I am interested on what think on the topic? Do you think the system is broken? If so, do you have any ideas to fix it? What do you think of the below idea?
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Originally Posted by cvm
This is already happening, but not at a professional level. For example: Here is an idea of this concept already being put into place. I will use the site I mentioned in my first post to demonstrate how it currently breaks it down for John Carter:
[Show spoiler]
John Carter, a Civil War veteran (Taylor Kitsch) is mysteriously transported to Mars where he becomes immersed in the conflict between the various nations of the planet. When he meets a princess (Lynn Collins), he vows to help against her enemies. Also with Willem Dafoe, Thomas Haden Church, Ciaran Hinds, Samantha Morton, Daryl Sabara, Mark Strong and Dominic West. Directed by Andrew Stanton. [2:12]
SEX/NUDITY 2 - Human fighting uniforms and daily wear for men and women include short skirts, togas, or loincloths that reveal partial buttocks, leather strips that cover women's breasts reveal cleavage, and men's bare chests are shown as well as bare abdomens of both men and women. One man is bare-chested throughout the film and wears a loincloth. A Harem scene shows several women in floor length gowns that are slit up the front to the top of the thighs, with a cutout at the waistline that bares flesh and deep v-necks that reveal cleavage.
► A princess is forced into an arranged marriage with an evil prince, but she loves another man. A man proposes to a woman and she accepts; they marry and kiss briefly.
VIOLENCE/GORE 6 - Shape-shifters are male, bald, float in the air, and threaten the people of four warring factions; they shock many individuals with blue lightning that they emit from their hands and their victims are thrown into walls and rocks, and they change appearance, taking on the form of males, females, old, young, etc. as they spy on and threaten people in a sinister manner. Some aliens have large tusks projecting from the corners of their lower jaws and become entangled with each other during several arguments. The shape-shifters travel in a huge ship that uses many drilling legs on land to drain resources. Hundreds of reptilian eggs hatch slimy reptilian babies with 4 arms.
► Throughout the film four different civilizations on Mars, two human and two reptilian humanoid, war with one another: a dozen sword fights end in large piles of dead reptilian bodies with scratches and cuts (but little blood, except on a few swords), and we see men and women in hand-to-hand combat with swords and knives, using martial arts kicks, punches and throws; when moving toward a city they ride rhino-like beasts that have 6 or 8 legs, charging and raising sand clouds, and in three battles flying ships with glass feathers attack humans and aliens on the ground, shooting them with cannons and rifles (we see people fall, but no blood is visible).
► A man kills two alien apes using a long chain with a rock at the end and a sword: one of the apes swallows a female alien that fell into the area and another female alien helps the fight by throwing her spear into the shoulder of an ape (we see lot of blood on the shoulder); the human falls under the last ape, but cuts up through him with a sword, and we see a gash spurting blue blood (the human is covered in blue blood).
► A sinister man wearing black clothing follows another man, walks up behind him, shape-shifts into a bald man wearing a metallic robe, pulls a knife and we hear a gunshot as the stalker falls off screen, presumably dead.
► A man is chained several times to rocks, choked by a reptilian humanoid, and raised off the ground by his throat, but escapes each time. In a holding cell, a reptilian- humanoid and a man argue, and the reptilian collapses because guards have beaten him and he is severely bruised; the two are sent into an arena to fight two giant white apes with long fur, 6 legs and tusks; as they enter the arena they see the dried out bodies of humans and aliens that have fought there before, each pinned to the ground with a long spear.
► A disillusioned veteran gets into several fights in a general store: shots are fired but no one is struck, three soldiers overpower the vet and put him in a stockade cell where he punches anyone that approaches the cell, spits blood on the floor and urinates (we see the stream); the vet grabs one soldier that approaches his cell, chokes him, steals the keys and escapes on a stolen horse, soldiers chase him until a band of Apaches stops them, a man is wounded by gunfire (we see some blood) and the vet carries him to a cave.
► In a fight scene, a man jumps continually over a horde of aliens killing them all with his sword (we see little blood on his sword) and dead bodies pile on top of him; when he is uncovered he has a bloody nose and a few scrapes on his face. A man is shot in the buttocks and he shouts, but heals quickly (no blood is shown). Humans kill an alien with a punch and another alien says, "You killed him with one blow. You will fight for us." Adult reptilian humanoids fight over babies as they are hatched, grabbing them to keep, punching each other and stealing babies (no one is seriously harmed).
► We see a mausoleum behind a mansion and in flashbacks a man is shown digging graves, covering his dead daughter's legs with dirt and pounding a black cross into the gravesite. We hear that a man died suddenly in his study; in a flashback, we see him lying on the floor, and we see his body being carried into a mausoleum and placed on a slab (we hear that he was not embalmed). We see a man's body being carried into a mausoleum. A man experiences several flashbacks of his wife and young daughter and he mourns their death (he wears both his and his wife's wedding rings).
► A reptilian female is covered with scars and we see her branded as punishment (she gasps) because she is too independent; she receives a warning that there is no more room for brands and next time she will be executed.
► A man and his daughter scream loudly at each other about the future of their community. A man says that he used curare to fake his own death. A shape-shifter tells a human that all civilizations evolve into constant war and die, so shape-shifters manage civilizations and drain the resources at the point of a civilization's death.
► Several scenes show blue electricity in matrices in a cave, or around human legs or forearms, sparking and sometimes knocking people down, though without resultant marks or wounds. In a science lab, a large machine that projects blue-white energy explodes when an alien shape shifter sends his own blue energy into it; no one is harmed.
► A man and some aliens learn to fly one-seater aircraft, bouncing off the ground, grazing walls, scaring a crowd that runs off screaming and crashing through the walls of a wedding ceremony (no one is hurt).
► After touching an amulet that radiates blue-white energy, a man finds himself on a different planet and cannot walk; he falls on his face repeatedly, causing bruises and then learns to jump great heights in the lower gravity. Throughout the film a man jumps over obstacles, like bands of warriors, tall buildings and rock formations. A shape-shifter delivers a blue shock wave to a man and sends him to Earth; the man comes to in a cave, lying covered in filth and dust, groans in pain and slowly walks out and away.
► Apaches are fearful of a large spider carved above a cave entrance.
SUBSTANCE USE - We hear that a man took curare to fake his death. A bar in a general store sells bottles of beer and shots of whiskey and four men are shown drinking, a captured man on Mars drinks a food beverage that causes him to hallucinate distorted images and he passes out, and two couples in marriage ceremonies drink a holy blue beverage which may or may not be alcoholic.
DISCUSSION TOPICS - Fantasy and reality, space travel, extraterrestrial life, history, war, different races and beliefs, family, convictions, justice.
MESSAGE - Avoid prejudices and take up a cause you can be passionate about.
Cevolution: Setting aside differences on studies done; I am interested on what think on the topic? Do you think the system is broken? If so, do you have any ideas to fix it? What do you think of the below idea?
Since I don't live there in the U.S, I can't comment as to whether your system is broken or not (or whether your idea would work or not), which is why I haven't touched on that in any of my posts so far. Where I've had a problem, is that the subject turned from talking about ratings and introducing a set standard, to someone suggesting that it should be based on the concept of objective morality, where he believes that the morals he lives by are the so called objective standard it should be based on. Whether that individual likes it or not, he needs to understand the fact that many question that standard, and actually think the standard he believes to be objective is in fact subjective. Many people are not religious (I'm not religious) therefore each individuals idea of morals and values will be different. With that being the case, you can't base a rating system on a standard that many don't agree with.
Moving on. I partly agree that the responsibility shouldn't just be on the parents, but most of it should. I think there should be a level of responsibility at the point of sale, but that's it. In no way do I feel that the studios and film makers should share any of the responsibility. Here in Australia our rating system is different to the U.S. I think our system works quite well for movies, but for video games it's terrible. We have no R18+ rating for video games, so from time to time the content of a video game is cut, or it is banned altogether. It is illegal for a business not to abide by our ratings system. Most businesses enforce it, but some are slack and don't enforce it as well as they should, though if they get caught they generally get hit with a large fine for the offense. To the best of my knowledge, cinema's here knock back anyone who is under age from buying a ticket, if they're not accompanied by a parent or guardian, which I have personally witnessed just recently. When I was 15 (which was 16 years ago) I used to get refused entry to "MA15+" films (such as Con Air), so I assume nothing has changed, as close to the same laws still apply today. Imo the studio's shouldn't be held accountable whatsoever, as it goes against their free rights. Movies are a form of art, and the directors vision should not be compromised to conform with censorship, just to meet certain people's expectations.
...all he was doing is pointing out to Moviefan that guns are involved in far more deaths than any movie, song or videogame, but for some ridiculous reason Moviefan agrees with your right to own a gun under your constitution, but disagrees with your free rights under the same constitution to be able to watch whatever content you want, which means Moviefan has double standards.
My standard is not a dual one; what I meant was that movie content is often just as dangerous for the mind and emotions, as guns are for the body. Not all lovers of horror films become killers, and not all sex scenes turn people into rapists or pedophiles. However, not all gunshots kill people, either. Studies have been done by many schools (religious and not), showing the effects of hard violence and explicit sex on the brain; its been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
My standard is not a dual one; what I meant was that movie content is often just as dangerous for the mind and emotions, as guns are for the body. Not all lovers of horror films become killers, and not all sex scenes turn people into rapists or pedophiles. However, not all gunshots kill people, either. Studies have been done by many schools (religious and not), showing the effects of hard violence and explicit sex on the brain; its been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
poor analogy on the gunshot vs. a movie.
as for the bolded part. it has been THEORIZED on the subject. it is still highly debated and nowhere NEAR conclusive. You may BELIEVE that it is proven because it agrees with your ideology but that does not make it true. if it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt there would be much less debate on the subject then there is now. believe me I've been inundated with those studies as well and there are just as many studies that can point to the opposite.
I say this with all due respect, but you can't come in here and make these claims without the burden of proof. if you are going to claim something, back it up. cite your sources. Utilize evidence to support your hypothesis besides "it's been proven" or "I believe it to be so".
My standard is not a dual one; what I meant was that movie content is often just as dangerous for the mind and emotions, as guns are for the body. Not all lovers of horror films become killers, and not all sex scenes turn people into rapists or pedophiles. However, not all gunshots kill people, either. Studies have been done by many schools (religious and not), showing the effects of hard violence and explicit sex on the brain; its been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
The whole studies thing has already be touched on by myself and member Uniquely (and now from Wormraper above as well), did you not read our previous posts about it?
To be honest, based on some of your comments I've seen over the last few days in this and other threads (such as in the "Arnold Schwarzenegger discussion" thread), I would argue that not being exposed to a healthy amount of sex, has negative effects on the brain.
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