2013 Oscar Discussion Discussion Thread

[chris_sc77]

Originally Posted by Joeinar

Tommy Lee Jones is getting great reviews for Lincoln.

I've been hearing that too. I do think that if The Weinstein Co. decide to put Hoffman in the supporting actor category he could easily take the award even though if is a lead performance I would argue. Also I would expect Hal Holbrook to get what maybe one more chance at an Oscar with his role in Van Sant's Promised Land. in good Will Hunting Van Sant made a film with Damon in the lead and Robin Williams won the supporting Oscar. And the Academy loves giving it to the older guy who is well respected and hasnt won before.

[Hawkguy]

Originally Posted by Snicket

But the Oscars have never been about awarding the best film. If you line up your predictions with your opinion on what you think is best you will lose 99% of the time.

It's true. My top 5 or 6 favorite films of last year got no Oscars attention, but I still think they're far superior to what was nominated...that doesn't mean anything to me. I really believe most people put way too much emphasis on these winners, and they mean nothing at all.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by chris_sc77

I've been hearing that too. I do think that if The Weinstein Co. decide to put Hoffman in the supporting actor category he could easily take the award even though if is a lead performance I would argue. Also I would expect Hal Holbrook to get what maybe one more chance at an Oscar with his role in Van Sant's Promised Land. in good Will Hunting Van Sant made a film with Damon in the lead and Robin Williams won the supporting Oscar. And the Academy loves giving it to the older guy who is well respected and hasnt won before.

If you mean Holbrook, yes. I expect Hal will be the ONLY thing Promised Land gets, if only to rectify the opinion that he "should" have won for Into the Wild, and we all thought it was his last role, now that he seems to be slowing down.

But yes, we haven't eliminated the Miramax/Weinstein Bribe yet--in fact, the original attempt to eliminate them seems to have backfired and radioactively made them larger and more unstoppable--but with fewer films making it to theaters, they're down to only one or two concentrated efforts every year, and this year "The Master" will kick and cry until it gets something it was "supposed" to.
Which, again, will probably be the lollipop of Best Original Screenplay, as long it quiets down and behaves itself.

Originally Posted by Jasonic

War of the fanboys category. Who will take home Best Special Effects? TDKR or Avengers? Or maybe it won't go to an action blockbuster, like last year's Hugo.

That's the thing: BVE isn't given by fanboys, it's given by fellow technicians who actually have to work on the danged things.
And Hugo could have either won Best Picture as a salute to Scorsese's directorial use of 3-D, or the entire 2-hour use of 3-D could be termed a "visual camera effect", in which it was one of the best of the year--Being the central pillar of the entire film, and all.

It's not "coolest", it's Best Employed and Created--
Remember two years ago, when the fanboys were discussing whether Tron Legacy would beat out Inception, and the official nominations turned out to be Inception, Alice, Iron Man 2, Harry Potter 6, and.....the flood sequence from "Hereafter"?
(And you heard this equally great tidal wave of fanboys shouting "Who-hubba-WHAAA?...That's not a movie! ")

[Jasonic]

Hereafter being nominated is still a sham. Considering one of the rules is how the visual effects contribute to the whole production. Right, because that whole two minute sequence made the movie....not. Had nearly nothing to do with it, and still would have been the same stinking movie without it. Emphasis on stinking.


And me saying TDKR vs Avengers was merely light hearted. It's not like I said it was going to be one or the other. Pfft, if it was given by fanboys, then how the hell has my voting ballet kept getting lost in the mail all these years?
But considering Nolan's last two movies were nominated with one winning, and the two Iron Man movies got nominated as well, it's at least obvious that these two movies will at least get nods. I don't give two effs how cool the effects were, it doesn't negate that they were also done extremely well.

[Foggy]

Prometheus is going to win special effects.

[Scholer]

I think Cloud Atlas might get a lot of nominations, a lot of wins too, especially screenplay. And Daniel Day Lewis is the deserving winner till now but who knows, we may see a better performance from somebody else yet.

And somehow I think Best Supporting Actor should in any way go to Tommy Lee Jones for Lincoln, he literally stole the whole film.

Directing is going to be a complex race this year, but I really do hope the Nolan does get a nomination. Andrew Dominik should and I think will get a nomination too.

And also Killing Me Softly should warrant a Best Picture and Best Actor nomination too, it's truly one of the year's exceptional films.

[chris_sc77]

Originally Posted by Foggy

Prometheus is going to win special effects.

I highly highly doubt it. It deserves to be nominated but I am not sure that it even will be nominated. I can almost guarantee The Avengers will most likely get 3 nominations. Visual Effects, Sound, & Sound Editing, . Dark KNight RIses will also most likely be up for all of those awards as well .Hobbit will also be a shoe in for Visual effects. Thats 3 right there ? will they have more than 3 noms in that category? I dunno .

I also think DUstin Hoffmans Quartet will most likely be up for quite a few awards as well. Probably this years Gosford park.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by chris_sc77

I highly highly doubt it. It deserves to be nominated but I am not sure that it even will be nominated. I can almost guarantee The Avengers will most likely get 3 nominations. Visual Effects, Sound, & Sound Editing, . Dark KNight RIses will also most likely be up for all of those awards as well .Hobbit will also be a shoe in for Visual effects. Thats 3 right there ? will they have more than 3 noms in that category? I dunno .

I also think DUstin Hoffmans Quartet will most likely be up for quite a few awards as well. Probably this years Gosford park.

It's usually about 5 for visuals. Prometheus is one of the few films that genuinely had me convinced, it looks just that flawless. The Dark Knight Rises has great practical, but it's computer effects are rather naff, Avengers looks good most the time, but I'll admit some of the green screening in that film looks lousy.

[R3P0]

Based on Reviews I would have to say Argo for best Picture it wouldn't surprise me

[robertthunder]

Originally Posted by Scholer

I think Cloud Atlas might get a lot of nominations, a lot of wins too, especially screenplay.

hahaha I remember this same logic coming out with The Lovely Bones. So many people thinking it would take adapted then the movie actually came out and sucked!! I'm not saying Cloud Atlas is going to suck but its not going to win Adapted screenplay!!

[Hawkguy]

Originally Posted by Foggy

Prometheus is going to win special effects.

Well, certainly not make-up effects...

[Scholer]

Originally Posted by robertthunder

hahaha I remember this same logic coming out with The Lovely Bones. So many people thinking it would take adapted then the movie actually came out and sucked!! I'm not saying Cloud Atlas is going to suck but its not going to win Adapted screenplay!!

It very well might, Lovely Bones was bound to fail, the book is just not material for a movie. And neither is Cloud Atlas, but the Wachoswski's cracked it. I saw some of the film a while ago on a cam rip and till whatever I saw I was blown away.

And another prediction would be a Best Supporting Actor Nomination for Michael Fassbender, his performance in Promotheus was mind blowing and in all ways Oscar Worthy, sad the same can't be said about the film.

And I think if the ending does anything to even raise Cloud Atlas a bit higher, it might even win Best Picture. After all we should'nt forget that the Oscars can be surprising.

And honestly I don't get the buzz about Anna Karenina, it's shit! The only proper Tolstoy Adaption till now was Bondarchuk's War and Peace which was around 10 Hours and won the Foreign Film Oscar.

Kiera Knightley, a good enough director, some slick colorful visuals can never warrant a proper adaption of Anna Karenina.

I still look forword to a 4 hour plus film, shot in 70mm, cutting out nothing, in Russian with English Subs, some great unknown actors and above all a proper script. Tom Hopper would be a candidate for directing it.

I hope and also think that this Anna Karenina will walk away with 0 nominations, it is in no way of Oscar Calibre.

[Hawkguy]

Originally Posted by Scholer

And another prediction would be a Best Supporting Actor Nomination for Michael Fassbender, his performance in Promotheus was mind blowing and in all ways Oscar Worthy, sad the same can't be said about the film.

Even he was surprised to be overlooked last year...and if they overlooked him last year, there's no telling what the chance is for this.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by robertthunder

hahaha I remember this same logic coming out with The Lovely Bones. So many people thinking it would take adapted then the movie actually came out and sucked!!

Because they were so thrilled they'd heard of it, and it had a big famous director, and everything!
(Thankfully, big studio schedule shuffling has mercy-killed all the similar "logic" predicting sweeps for The Great Gatsby this year. Let's not make this too painful, folks. )

I'm not saying Cloud Atlas is going to suck but its not going to win Adapted screenplay!!

I think some people may have picked up yet misunderstood my earlier posts saying that movies like The Master and Moonrise Kingdom "would probably go home with a Best Screenplay nom".
It wasn't exactly meant as a compliment. Nor were the nominations.

[Scholer]

Hey did anyone here see Barfi, the Indian film submitted for Foreign Language this year. I watched it along with a few friends who were watching it and I was blown away and very moved.

It's truly a movie that I really liked this year, to me it's pitch perfect, I normally never watch Bollywood films but a few catch my eye here and then. Last time I liked one, which was Lagaan, it was nominated for the Oscar.

But Barfi I hope has a chance, it's the sort of film the world forgot to make. Almost feels like a Charlie Chaplin movie directed by John Ford. I dare to say it might even win the Oscar with enough exposure, this is certainly I dare say Oscar Material.

[MikeScott]

Would be amazing if The Perks of Being a Wallflower could score a Best Adapted Screenplay nomination, but I know it's unlikely. There's so much competition and it's not really an Oscar type of film. It's still very deserving though. Maybe if it had broken out in a big way it would have had a better shot.

[robertthunder]

My prediction for Golden Globes...

Best Motion Picture, Drama Argo
Best Motion Picture, Musical or Comedy Les Misérables
Best Actor in a Motion Picture, Drama Joaquin Phoenix, The Master
Best Actor in a Motion Picture, Musical or Comedy Bradley Cooper, Silver Linings Playbook
Best Actress in a Motion Picture, Drama Jessica Chastain, Zero Dark Thirty
Best Actress in a Motion Picture, Musical or Comedy Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook
Best Supporting Actor in a Motion Picture Leonardo DiCaprio, Django Unchained
Best Supporting Actress in a Motion Picture Anne Hathaway, Les Misérables
Best Director Quentin Tarantino, Django Unchained
Best Screenplay, Motion Picture Quentin Taratino, Django Unchained
Best Foreign-Language Film Amour (Austria)
Best Animated Feature Film Frankenweenie
Best Original Song, Motion Picture "Suddenly," Les Misérables, Claude-Michel Schonberg & Alain Boublil
Best Original Score, Motion Picture John Williams, Lincoln
Best TV Movie or Miniseries Hatfields & McCoys
Best TV Series, Drama Boardwalk Empire
Best TV Series, Comedy Girls
Best Actor in a TV Series, Drama Bryan Cranston, Breaking Bad
Best Actor, TV Series Comedy Louis C.K., Louie
Best Actress in a TV Series, Drama Claire Danes, Homeland
Best Actress in a TV Series, Comedy Zooey Deschanel, New Girl
Best Actor in a Miniseries or TV Movie Kevin Costner, Hatfields & McCoys
Best Actress in a Miniseries or TV Movie Jessica Lange, American Horror Story: Asylum
Best Supporting Actor in a Series, Mini-Series or TV Movie Danny Huston, Magic City
Best Supporting Actress in a Series, Miniseries, or TV Movie Sarah Paulson, Game Change
and thats right im even betting the Cecil B. award. I don't care that it is guaranteed I want my guaranteed point lol
Cecile B. DeMille Award Jodie Foster

just as a side note though... If ZDT wins best Drama it will win the Academy award. I think it doesn't have enough momentum yet but if it wins here it will be unstoppable!! As much as I want to see DU win, Argo is going for a Slumdog, Avatar push right now that I think will land it that win. and Lincoln is dying. It needs this to stay in the game but I don't think its going to happen.

[Foggy]

Looks about right, but Daniel Day Lewis has Actor all wrapped up, as much as I'd like Pheonix to win it, it's a dead cert for Lincoln.

[robertthunder]

Originally Posted by Foggy

Looks about right, but Daniel Day Lewis has Actor all wrapped up, as much as I'd like Pheonix to win it, it's a dead cert for Lincoln.

Oscars... Yes Globes... never try and lock a globes pick!! Anything can happen lol. Its way crazier to bet on!! It's the Hollywood 'Foreign' press and Phoenix's performance is way more there style!! Could be DDL, and I would be happy if it was but I think the person to beat at this moment is JP...

[remake]

Are the Oscar nominations really on January 10th?