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Batman 41 54.67%
Captain America 24 32.00%
Draw 10 13.33%
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Old 04-13-2013, 04:12 AM   #41
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Batman is more skilled in martial artist, has a superior analytical mind, and an arsenal of gadgets that put Cap's shield to shame.

Cap is stronger and faster for sure, but let's not forget that the Super-Soldier Serum enhanced him to the peak of human potential and not beyond. The level of intense training Batman has put himself through is said to make him superior to any Olympic-level athlete.

Batman would tire before Cap, but he'd be smart enough to see that and find a way to end the fight. A tie is fair proposal, but I still think the edge goes to Bats.
Batman is the ultimate in human condition without being superhuman so I think he'd be just as strong as Cap. Not to mention he can take down the entire Justice League and probably doesn't have the Captain's code. America is a fan favourite but I think the bat would win rather quickly.
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:40 AM   #42
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Batman is the ultimate in human condition without being superhuman so I think he'd be just as strong as Cap. Not to mention he can take down the entire Justice League and probably doesn't have the Captain's code. America is a fan favourite but I think the bat would win rather quickly.
Batman is not as strong as Cap, but is definitely smarter, people are mostly thinking abilities but Wayne has smarts that will ultimately win him the match.
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:20 AM   #43
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Batman is the ultimate in human condition without being superhuman so I think he'd be just as strong as Cap. Not to mention he can take down the entire Justice League and probably doesn't have the Captain's code. America is a fan favourite but I think the bat would win rather quickly.
No, Captain America is stronger than any regular human, even an Olympic-caliber athlete. He is supposed to be able to lift weights several hundred pounds more than a normal human.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:43 AM   #44
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As far as a fight goes I'd say Captain America. However, aesthetically I've been drawn to both. I've seen some awesome versions of Batman and Captain America. I had a cool poster of Captain America as a kid in the 90s and also Capcom had an awesome version of him in the their fighting games. However, Batman is more familiar to me and just has a more serious tone to him that I enjoy. I own two of the Batman games for XBox 360 but I have yet to play them. However, from what I've seen Batman looks better than ever.
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:11 PM   #45
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Batman is not as strong as Cap, but is definitely smarter, people are mostly thinking abilities but Wayne has smarts that will ultimately win him the match.
Captain America is the greatest tactician in comics so he has plenty of smarts.
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Old 04-13-2013, 02:24 PM   #46
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Batman is the ultimate in human condition without being superhuman so I think he'd be just as strong as Cap. Not to mention he can take down the entire Justice League and probably doesn't have the Captain's code. America is a fan favourite but I think the bat would win rather quickly.
That's actually wrong, Cap of earth 1610 (original Marvel) list Cap's strength as able to lift or press 2 tons maximum making his strength super human. He's also an expert martial artist, weaponry, shield combat, acrobat,, and combat skills!!! I voted for Bats, but upon further research ...it's a draw, whoever makes the first combat mistake or whoever tires first wins...giving the edge to Cap.
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Old 04-13-2013, 02:29 PM   #47
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Captain America is the greatest tactician in comics so he has plenty of smarts.
Confirmed....so tactically is a wash
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Old 04-13-2013, 04:06 PM   #48
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Wow, the votes for Batman are more overwhelming that I thought they'd be. Not sure if that's fanboyism or not. It was actually a hard decision for me, but I ultimately went with Captain America based on the fact he has actual military training and experience. Not to mention he's honed his abilities to actually throw his shield and take out multiple targets if need be.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:07 PM   #49
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Captain America has been seen bench pressing 1,100 lbs and is capable of running a mile in just over a minute.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:32 PM   #50
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Captain America is the greatest tactician in comics so he has plenty of smarts.
Sorry bud, Batman is. And not saying Cap is stupid, just that that Batman is smarter.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:35 PM   #51
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Sorry bud, Batman is. And not saying Cap is stupid, just that that Batman is smarter.
No, no he's not. Thanks for playing though.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:43 PM   #52
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No, no he's not. Thanks for playing though.
How is Captain America smarter than Batman?

Batman is known for his intelligence.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:48 PM   #53
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How is Captain America smarter than Batman?

Batman is known for his intelligence.
Cap is known for being an expert tactician. The SSS also increased his intelligence.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:57 PM   #54
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Batman can disappear any attacks from Cap anywhere at any time with any gadget. You could argue Cap can react fast enough to counter it due to his Enhanced capabilities. But Batman knows how to approach a physically superior opponent. He's a master strategist...he'll take Cap down.
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:03 PM   #55
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Cap is known for being an expert tactician. The SSS also increased his intelligence.
Batman is also known for his tactician too.
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:15 PM   #56
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Cap is known for being an expert tactician. The SSS also increased his intelligence.
Batman has trained with the greatest minds around the world, learned almost every martial art in existence. Is an expert in math and engineering as well as electronics. Runs a multimillion dollar company.

Cap knows what he has learned from the army.

Sorry, better luck next time.
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:18 PM   #57
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Cap is the best battlefield leader, which is why he is usually in command of operations for the Avengers. But Batman has infinitely more experience in one-on-one duels, he's been challenged by practically every psychopath on the planet looking to make a name for themselves in fighting.
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From Wikipedia on Batman,

Batman has no inherent superhuman powers. To compensate for this, he relies on "his own scientific knowledge, detective skills, and athletic prowess."[28] In the stories, Batman is regarded as one of the world's greatest detectives, if not the world's greatest crime solver.[120] In Grant Morrison's first storyline in JLA, Superman describes Batman as "the most dangerous man on Earth," able to defeat a team of superpowered aliens by himself in order to rescue his imprisoned teammates. He has spent a significant portion of his life traveling the world and acquiring the skills needed to aid in his crusade against crime. His knowledge and expertise in almost every discipline known to man is nearly unparalleled by any other character in the DC Universe.[121] He is also a master of disguise, often gathering information under the identity of Matches Malone, a notorious gangster. Additionally, the Batman has been repeatedly described as one of the greatest martial artists in the DC Universe; his skills in hand-to-hand combat are said to rival such notable martial artists as Lady Shiva, Bronze Tiger, and Richard Dragon. His batsuit also aids in his combat against enemies, having the properties of both Kevlar and Nomex. It protects him from gunfire and other significant impacts. However, Batman's most defining characteristic is his strong commitment to justice and his unwillingness to take life, regardless of the situation he has faced. This unyielding moral rectitude has earned him the respect of several heroes in the DC Universe, most notably that of Superman and Wonder Woman.

Also from Wikipedia on Captain America,

Captain America has no superhuman powers, although as a result of the Super-Soldier Serum and "Vita-Ray" treatment, he is transformed from a frail young man into a "perfect" specimen of human development and conditioning.[87] Captain America's strength, endurance, agility, speed, reflexes, durability, and healing are at the zenith of natural human potential. Rogers' body regularly replenishes the super-soldier serum; it does not wear off.[88]

The formula enhances all of his metabolic functions and prevents the build-up of fatigue poisons in his muscles, giving him endurance far in excess of an ordinary human being. This accounts for many of his extraordinary feats, including bench pressing 1200 pounds (545 kg) and running a mile (1.6 km) in 73 seconds (49 mph/78 kph).[89] Furthermore, his enhancements are the reason why he was able to survive being frozen in suspended animation for decades. Rogers cannot become intoxicated by drugs, including alcohol, or by impurities in the air and is immune to terrestrial diseases.[citation needed] He is also highly resistant to hypnosis or gases that could limit his focus.[90] The secrets of creating a super-soldier were lost with the death of its creator, Dr. Abraham Erskine.[91] However, in the ensuing decades there have been numerous secret attempts to recreate Erskine's treatment, only to have them end in failure. Even worse, the attempts have instead often created psychopathic supervillains of which Captain America's 1950s imitator and Nuke are the most notorious examples.

Rogers' battle experience and training make him an expert tactician and an excellent field commander, with his teammates frequently deferring to his orders in battle. Thor has stated that Rogers is one of the very few humans he will take orders from and follow "through the gates of Hades".[92] Rogers' reflexes and senses are also extraordinarily keen. He has blended judo, western boxing, kickboxing, and gymnastics into his own unique fighting style and is a master of multiple martial arts. Years of practice with his near-indestructible shield make him able to aim and throw it with almost unerring accuracy. His skill with his shield is such that he can attack multiple targets in succession with a single throw or even cause a boomerang-like return from a throw to attack an enemy from behind. In canon, he is regarded by other skilled fighters as one of the best hand-to-hand combatants in the Marvel Universe, limited only by his human physique.[93][94] Although the super-soldier serum is an important part of his strength, Rogers has shown himself still sufficiently capable against stronger opponents, even when the serum has been deactivated reverting him to his pre-Captain America physique.[95]

Rogers has vast U.S. military knowledge and is often shown to be familiar with ongoing, classified Defense Department operations. He is an expert in combat strategy, survival, acrobatics, military strategy, piloting, and demolitions. Despite his high profile as one of the world's most popular and recognizable superheroes, Rogers also has a broad understanding of the espionage community, largely through his ongoing relationship with S.H.I.E.L.D. He is a talented artist, and has worked on the Captain America comic book published in the Marvel universe. Other career fields include commercial arts, teaching high school history, and law enforcement.

Although he lacks superhuman strength, Captain America is one of the few mortal beings who has been deemed worthy enough to wield Thor's hammer Mjolnir.[96]
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The best source for comic book information is from the Marvel Wiki, which is distinct from the general Wikipedia. Here is the link to Cap's entry in the Marvel Wiki, which goes into extreme depth on his abilities.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Captain_Amer...even_Rogers%29

Though I haven't read it in a few years, the Marvel Universe Handbooks from the 80's would give definitive strength levels for each character. I am almost positive in those guides that Cap was listed as being able to lift one ton (2000 pounds), which is obviously beyond human capability.
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The best source for comic book information is from the Marvel Wiki, which is distinct from the general Wikipedia. Here is the link to Cap's entry in the Marvel Wiki, which goes into extreme depth on his abilities.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Captain_Amer...even_Rogers%29

Though I haven't read it in a few years, the Marvel Universe Handbooks from the 80's would give definitive strength levels for each character. I am almost positive in those guides that Cap was listed as being able to lift one ton (2000 pounds), which is obviously beyond human capability.
According to dc.wikia.com

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In this section thre's a statement about "Through intense training, specialized diet, and biopathic feedback treatments, The Batman represents the pinnacle of human physical prowess." Do we have a reference for this biopathic thing?

And in "Strength Level:" there's a bit about In Batman Begins we observe him perform a one arm Pec Fly of approximately 180lbs (the weight of an athletic adult male). Through mathematic extrapolation, we can safely assume that Batman can Bench Press Approximately 570 to 630lbs, and lift/press approximately twice his body weight above his head. His Leg Press capacity is well over 1500lbs (as evidenced by his ability to execute such considerable jumps and leaps) Aren't these articles supposed to be specific to the DCU, not movies and tv shows? Also, even if applicable, wouldn't this be considered "original research" and need to be excised/changed/referenced? Roygbiv666 20:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

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