Once Upon a Time in Wonderland - New ABC Spin Off

[kevin87]

meh, wasn't at all impressed. and for it to be in Wonderland, it didn't have any kind of wonder at all.. and the CGI is even worse than how it can be on OUAT in general. this was originally supposed to air as a miniseries while the original was on hiatus during the winter, wasn't it? that would've been much better.

[Beast]

Really enjoyed the first episode. I'm glad they hit the ground running with the magical elements.

I enjoyed the first season of OUAT's build-up. But glad they didn't do the same thing here.

Since it's Wonderland I am glad they didn't hold back on going wild with the wonder of Wonderland.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by LEHD

I liked it but not as much as OUAT's pilot. At least I need to know the characters a little bit more specially Jafar and The Red Queen. The Red Queen is clearly not Regina in Wonderland and I didn't like the actress that much but she wasn't in the pilot that much so I give her the benefit of the doubt.

That's true of the original novels of Alice in Wonderland and Through The Looking Glass.

There was the Queen of Hearts and the Red Queen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_o..._the_Red_Queen

[roguescribner]

Originally Posted by RipleyLV426

+1 with everything here. The narrative is too overstuffed for it's own good, the CGI is disturbingly horrid and had me questioning if some of the scenes were unfinished previs.

The actress who plays Alice is the only thing that kept me watching, again having a bit more "edge" and fire to her was welcome and she did act very well considering how much of what she was reacting to was a green screen. The love story I understand has to be there from the get go but I do not see chemistry thus far.

I also think that having the White Rabbit as a CGI main character hurt the budget for this show, putting all efforts into making him look better, as a result EVERYTHING else looks like bad video game world.

Lastly, I could not STAND the Red Queen and the baby lipped actress who plays her. There is NO threat, NO acting ability and she just seems to be like a better dressed popular girl from a high school clique that always chattered away with the jocks and her groupies and always thought herself better than everyone else.

I don't see this lasting and I'm sure the rest of the country will quickly turn this one off...sticking with the original OUAT and not this faded, one dimensional carbon copy.

Pretty much my reaction as well. I'll add that I found the lead actress as Alice a bit peculiar. I see her face changing with whatever emotion she's trying to portray, but her voice tended to always sound the same. If I closed my eyes and just listened to her to speak, it'd all be rather flat.

This ep was stuffed with exposition and distracting cgi. I'll give it one more go to see if it smooths things over, but I'm not overly hopeful.

[djgeneral]

I was expecting it to be horrible based off of the reviews in this thread, but I didn't think it was that bad at all.

[tylerdurden10]

Originally Posted by djgeneral

I was expecting it to be horrible based off of the reviews in this thread, but I didn't think it was that bad at all.

I really enjoyed it as well, but the CGI was very distracting. Hopefully they will use less of it going forward.

[BStoner91]

Originally Posted by tylerdurden10

I really enjoyed it as well, but the CGI was very distracting. Hopefully they will use less of it going forward.

I don't see how the cgi was so distracting for everyone?...It's the same cgi/wonderland we saw/see in the once upon a time series?..it's been this way since the intro of the show..unless everyone's just seeing something different?

[djgeneral]

Originally Posted by BStoner91

I don't see how the cgi was so distracting for everyone?...It's the same cgi/wonderland we saw/see in the once upon a time series?..it's been this way since the intro of the show..unless everyone's just seeing something different?

I have to agree. I didn't notice anything overly poor. The only thing I thought looked a bit cheesy (as others have mentioned) was the very last scene.

[lifepawn]

I find the Red Queen's lips to be very distracting and not in a good way. Her acting was pretty bland too.

Thought the girl playing Alice did a good job, but the love story with the genie had no chemistry. I'm guessing they'll set up a love triangle with the Knave anyways.

[Rizor]

For some reason, I watched the first episode of this. I don't watch much network TV these days but I left my TV on from Jeopardy and didn't bother to change it. I've never seen Once Upon a Time. Does it have any real connection to that show?

Thought it was okay. The reliance on really bad CGI is amusing. Thought the girl playing Alice did a good job though the show itself seemed to take itself too seriously.

[TheAnimeLegend]

Originally Posted by RipleyLV426

+1 with everything here. The narrative is too overstuffed for it's own good, the CGI is disturbingly horrid and had me questioning if some of the scenes were unfinished previs.

The actress who plays Alice is the only thing that kept me watching, again having a bit more "edge" and fire to her was welcome and she did act very well considering how much of what she was reacting to was a green screen. The love story I understand has to be there from the get go but I do not see chemistry thus far.

I also think that having the White Rabbit as a CGI main character hurt the budget for this show, putting all efforts into making him look better, as a result EVERYTHING else looks like bad video game world.

Lastly, I could not STAND the Red Queen and the baby lipped actress who plays her. There is NO threat, NO acting ability and she just seems to be like a better dressed popular girl from a high school clique that always chattered away with the jocks and her groupies and always thought herself better than everyone else.

I don't see this lasting and I'm sure the rest of the country will quickly turn this one off...sticking with the original OUAT and not this faded, one dimensional carbon copy.

Agreed. The Red Queen was not threatening at all, I think there was an effort to make her like the Evil Queen/Regina in OUAT with having her dress/hairstyle in a similar fashion and even the theme that they created for her was pretty much the same as well but the girl playing just did not have the acting abilities to pull it off.

As for the White Rabbit, yeah, they put everything it seems into making him look better while everything else around him suffered as a result. Also, why was the White Rabbit, gray? I noticed in some shots that he has Gray fur instead of white? Perhaps it was the lighting in those particular scenes but that was how it appeared to me.

As for the love story, I felt the story would have been so much interesting without it, they could have made it where Wonderland was threatened and they needed her help or something. Also, I don't see the chemistry between Alice and The Genie either.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Beast

That's true of the original novels of Alice in Wonderland and Through The Looking Glass.

There was the Queen of Hearts and the Red Queen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_o..._the_Red_Queen

...THANK you.
If there is one bit of Disney cultural dictatorship I would like to see expunged from our popular culture (well, besides people who think Beauty & the Beast was the "real" story, that is), it's the sad remaining Tim Burton victims who think it was one queen under two names, or even ONE name.

(For the record, the Red Queen--who was a chess piece, not a card--in Looking Glass, was, in fact, rather friendly to Alice, in her own....bossy way.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/12/12...m#link2HCH0002
And before 2010, it was the Queen of Hearts--in Wonderland, an entirely different country--who had the decapitating obsession.
Much of Tim Burton's confusion dates back to the movie originally being Wes Craven's script for the American McGee videogame movie, which made the confusion first in the original game. But I'd rather blame Burton. )

[Veronica Mars]

I liked the show and I especially liked the actress that played Alice. I hope this survives long enough to prove the naysayers wrong. While I'll always like the characters on the original ONCE, I'm not sure that show will ever recover from too many characters and storylines. At least the new one has the potential to be a little bit more straight forward.

[Anthony P]

Finally got to see it, thought it was good. I think the CGI issue is that OUAT started off mostly in the real world and people had a chance to get into the show while this started off with a lot of CGI so some people paid too much attention to it. I also think the other issue people had, like others said, was assuming the red queen was the queen of harts and so when she was not that evil they did not like it.

[TheAnimeLegend]

I am going to watch the new episode this week and if it still doesn't impress me then I am dropping it.

[WhySoCereal]

Originally Posted by ShamelessFanGirl

I am going to watch the new episode this week and if it still doesn't impress me then I am dropping it.

I usually give a show 3 Episodes before I decide to keep it or not.

[TheAnimeLegend]

I usually give a show two maybe three watches as well before deciding whether or not to continue watching it. Though it has to appeal to my interest in order to do this, and this has managed to do that w/ how they are protraying Alice and the fact that they have brought Jafar into the story has got my attention. I want to see where they are going with all of this.

[LEHD]

This week's episode was a solid episode (not good or bad), the Red Queen was better in this epiosde than in the pilot. But ehhh I just don't care enough about this Cyrus rescue quest. I found distracting that in the pilot all Wonderland was CGI but in this episode it was location.


I wonder if they cancel this, will they incorporate some of the characters to some arc of the original show?

[rikraq]

I'm just not feeling this show. I think I'm done watching weekly and I'll wait and catch up at the end of the season.

[Veronica Mars]

I'm feeling it completely, but with such horrific ratings, ABC will have to move the show to another night and give it time to establish a core audience. I'm not optimistic that they'll give it that chance.

Would have been better to have left this to run instead of having OUAT go with reruns like they first planned. Since the suits at ABC seemed to like it so much that they changed the plans and decided to run it on its own, possibly they'll give the show more leeway than they might give something else.