Red River (1948)

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Carletty

Well the novel only has 140 pages so it won't be that much of a problem.

I'd say we're still looking looking at a chunky digipak here

[Carletty]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I'd say we're still looking looking at a chunky digipak here

Yeah, especially with 4 discs. This will be huge.

[Egbert Souse]

Originally Posted by spidervenom1992

Why is it that the more widely seen 133 minute version only getting a 2K restoration? I'm aware that it wasn't Hawks' preferred version but given that it's the only one I and many other fans have seen, I imagine that it will be the one that many of us watch the most. https://forum.blu-ray.com/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

4K is more toward preservation. If you have to pick a version to preserve, always go with the director's intended version first.

[Johnzilla2179]

Originally Posted by Egbert Souse

4K is more toward preservation. If you have to pick a version to preserve, always go with the director's intended version first.

I understand that sentiment, but to be completely honest, the director's preferred version means little to me if the version I prefer is getting the shaft. This is doubly true if the version it's getting the shaft for is one that wasn't exactly widely distributed. That's essentially defending George Lucas' logic of only releasing tweaked versions of his Star Wars films and pretending the more widely accepted versions never existed or don't deserve equal treatment. Granted, the changes to Red River were done under different circumstances, but I hope you understand my logic. Another example would be Francis Ford Coppola suddenly deciding that the original theatrical version of Apocalypse Now wasn't "important" enough to be preserved and thus only doing a 4K scan of Redux.

[AgentOrange]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

Sigh...four discs, so another digipak that won't fit with the other titles on the shelf and will get tattered and battered over time, all because Criterion decided to introduce combo packs five years (!) after originally going Blu. Every Blu-ray with a second disc of material will be a digipak from here on out, I guess.

If it's packed with 140+ pages booklet, and 2 blu-rays - this was probably always destined to be a big-ass box anyway.

For this release, I'm ready for anything (even if the 2DVD's are a waste).

[AgentOrange]

Originally Posted by tenia

It is only very slightly thicker, but otherwise, no, it's not taking more space on the shelves. If you think, most specifically, on the IAMMMMW set, which is 5 discs, it's the same thickness than a Scanavo case (or maybe a 10th of a fraction of an inch thicker, but whatever ).

I don't have IAMMMW - but Nashville and Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion are almost a full 50% thicker than the standard Scanovo case.

The soft boxes are just very fragile. The corners *WILL* get frayed and beaten unless you are absolutely meticulous about how they are shelved.

I move my movies around frequently since I move between two different locations - and I have to box them up for transport. With plastic cases I can box them and forget about it - with digipacks that is literally impossible. Anything on the bottom of a box is 100% guaranteed to be not just end up with "frayed edges" and dented corners(which inevitably happens on digibooks and digipacks no matter how much care you take), but actually severely smashed and dented. I have to worry about that in storage as well, since I only bother having about 300 movies at a time "displayed" on a bookshelf in my family room - the rest are pretty much in Heavy Duty bankers boxes until I'm ready to switch what I have "ready" to watch on my shelf.

[Johnzilla2179]

Originally Posted by AgentOrange

If it's packed with 140+ pages booklet, and 2 blu-rays - this was probably always destined to be a big-ass box anyway.

For this release, I'm ready for anything (even if the 2DVD's are a waste).

I wouldn't call the DVDs a waste. For people like me, who enjoy the DVD format's versatility, it's a dream. I don't know about you but I only have one friend with a Blu-ray player. Everyone else, including most of my family members, are rocking' an old school system. What if I want to show someone Red River that doesn't subscribe to Blu-ray? I'm frequently the one to do such a thing and I like to have DVD copies on hand, personally.

[Jgsmithvt]

Red River is definitely one of the top five westerns
of all time. I would rank it #3 behind The Searchers and Shane.
I normally would not pay $40 for a movie, but I have been
waiting too long for this release.

[Pirate King]

Originally Posted by Jgsmithvt

Red River is definitely one of the top five westerns
of all time. I would rank it #3 behind The Searchers and Shane.
I normally would not pay $40 for a movie, but I have been
waiting too long for this release.

I have to agree with that... although I would rank Shane ahead of The Searchers. Red River is not just one of the best westerns ever made, it is one of the best films ever made. I am really looking forward to this.

[filmmusic]

Originally Posted by spidervenom1992

I wouldn't call the DVDs a waste. For people like me, who enjoy the DVD format's versatility, it's a dream. I don't know about you but I only have one friend with a Blu-ray player. Everyone else, including most of my family members, are rocking' an old school system. What if I want to show someone Red River that doesn't subscribe to Blu-ray? I'm frequently the one to do such a thing and I like to have DVD copies on hand, personally.

As I had said elsewhere, I CANNOT watch a DVD if I know a Bluray of it has been released.
(even if I haven't bought the Bluray yet)

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Red River Blu-ray REVIEW




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[Duke_45]

Whoa, sounds wonderful! Can't wait for it to arrive...

[tylergfoster]

Originally Posted by AgentOrange

The soft boxes are just very fragile. The corners *WILL* get frayed and beaten unless you are absolutely meticulous about how they are shelved.

One unexpected thing that happened to my Investigation was that it was on some surface, like a desk or a table, with a very tiny bit of debris in the upper corner, like a miniscule pebble or something. Didn't make any dents but scraped away the image so there's now a tiny little scribble-like pattern on the upper rear corner of my copy.

[pro-bassoonist]

Red River Blu-ray REVIEW



PACKAGING:

It is a rather large box set because the novel is included with the Blu-ray. (More photos in our review).

Have a wonderful weekend, everyone





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[rickah88]

Oh my! This order just got much better! I love the packaging, and can't wait to read the novel.
My only regret is my Dad is no longer around to watch this, as it was one of his favorites!

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Oh my! This order just got much better! I love the packaging, and can't wait to read the novel.
My only regret is my Dad is no longer around to watch this, as it was one of his favorites!

I still need to,order this one and will do so very soon. I will admit that. I have never seen this film, but it is one I am sure to enjoy.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

I still need to,order this one and will do so very soon. I will admit that. I have never seen this film, but it is one I am sure to enjoy.

IMO, one of John Wayne's best films...and that's a pretty fantastic list!
You are in for a treat!

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by rickah88

IMO, one of John Wayne's best films...and that's a pretty fantastic list!
You are in for a treat!

Agreed, great film.

I wasn't wrong when I guessed that it would be a chunky package earlier in the thread ...but it looks like a great all around release.

[charlieray1]

Originally Posted by Pirate King

Red River is not just one of the best westerns ever made, it is one of the best films ever made.

Until you get to the very ending. It IS a great film, and it certainly is more than strong enough to overcome a bad ending scene, but it sure is a shame that it ends the way it does. The screenwriter hated the ending that was imposed on it.

[#Darren]

Not a fan of including the novels. If I really want the novel I will buy a higher quality binding.

That said, I am THRILLED Criterion have finally released this!