Resident Evil: Apocalypse (2004) - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

Kryptonic · 08-20-2014, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I don't have the JP disc. I can tell you that it looks slightly better than the U.S. disc even though it's MPEG-2 as well.

The U.S. and Japanese discs share the same transfer. I own both. They both have bad black levels, though I suspect the Japanese disc has better compression due to it being AVC as opposed to MPEG-2, but I doubt you'd be able to tell the difference in motion. The German disc is a massive improvement over both, despite being in MPEG-2.

HD Goofnut · 08-20-2014, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kryptonic

The U.S. and Japanese discs share the same transfer. I own both. They both have bad black levels, though I suspect the Japanese disc has better compression due to it being AVC as opposed to MPEG-2, but I doubt you'd be able to tell the difference in motion. The German disc is a massive improvement over both, despite being in MPEG-2.

Then there's the fact that DE disc is much cheaper than the JP disc.

#Darren · 08-21-2014, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rewak

There's probably not a lot of point getting the extended Apocalypse just yet, we know Anderson made an extended cut of Retribution and recorded an extra commentary for Afterlife, we also know the next movie is set to be the last. It doesn't take a genius to figure out they're planning a boxset which will most likely include the extended Apocalypse/Retribution cuts and the extra commentary.

AND I will buy it! I love this series

#Darren · 08-21-2014, 01:47 PM

Oh yeah, and they've got to do a nice new scan of #1 because that is one SOFT image.

PRO-630HD · 09-12-2016, 10:47 PM

Wow is this disc bad. The original at least they put some effort into it. The review sums it up perfectly. This is a direct DVD transfer using the same HD master from 2004 and it is clearly obvious going to caps-a-holic.com

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go...=67385&i=2&l=0

The black levels are embarrassingly bad and way too high for bluray. I think the best fix is going to chap. 13 where the helicopter crashes. There are multiple fades to black (okay not really, fades to grey) where you can properly adjust the black level. 1:18:06 is one where you can match the black level on the screen to the letterbox bars. I have a 65C6P oled and had to lower my brightness level from 53 to 43 lol! Once this adjustment is done the disc actually even by modern standards looks pretty good and this was the major complaint from the review back in 2007.

javi92 · 09-12-2016, 10:50 PM

Holy thread bump, Batman!

PRO-630HD · 09-12-2016, 11:19 PM

Another great spot is 5:58 in chap. 2 another fade where is states 13 Hours Later on the screen you can clearly see the black levels are all jacked up. Again match the black background into the letterbox bars to fix Sony's screwup and for greatly improved PQ.

SethRex · 09-12-2016, 11:25 PM

Has anyone ever just stopped to ask why Germany and Japan got extended cuts but nobody else?

DJR662 · 09-13-2016, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SethRex

Has anyone ever just stopped to ask why Germany and Japan got extended cuts but nobody else?

I own both the US and (extended) German Blu-ray and I actually prefer the shorter theatrical version, you're not missing out on anything special regarding the extra footage.

Also the German version has DTS HR while the US has PCM audio.

wesslan · 09-13-2016, 08:59 AM

well what about earlier claims DE has a better(not crushed) scan that US/UK/JP, I really don't see that on caps. DE is even darker than UK....

Sky_Captain · 09-13-2016, 09:24 AM

If you don't care about the extended cut and can play Region B locked discs, the French disc is the way to go. VC-1 transfer, proper black levels and none of the onscreen titles changed to another language, (unlike the German). I kept that disc, even though I also have the AVC encoded Japanese extended cut.

DJR662 · 09-13-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

If you don't care about the extended cut and can play Region B locked discs, the French disc is the way to go. VC-1 transfer, proper black levels and none of the onscreen titles changed to another language, (unlike the German). I kept that disc, even though I also have the AVC encoded Japanese extended cut.

Didn't know there was also a French release.

But I'm done double dipping with this movie. Until a 4K release comes along that is.

HD Goofnut · 09-13-2016, 03:23 PM

I have the DE disc for the extended cut I think it looks good for being an older master in MPEG-2. I only paid about $10 for it. I keep it with the theatrical cut disc in the U.S. steelbook.

AllOuttaBubbleGum · 12-10-2016, 10:57 PM

Picked up the US release along with the rest of the REs in the 5 Film Set at the Mother of All Bargain prices: $14.99.

Plenty serviceable picture, I thought, given the age of the master. At the very least, significantly improved over the DVD; no contest. The black levels on my LCD were already problematic, but I had no problem optimizing 'Apocalypse.'

I also have the open matte version of this 'Resident' recorded from a Premium cable airing, which I took a quick look at before spinning the blu-ray...and I was reminded how much extra head--and foot--room there is in it. Previously, the "full screen" transfer on the dvd alluded to this, but without the full width of the frame. I hesitate to enjoy the cable version too much, lest I decide I prefer that framing; it will probably never get a decent looking, uncompressed release on blu-ray. There's also an open matte 'Extinction' floating out there too, by the way...

Patsfan123 · 01-19-2017, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

If you don't care about the extended cut and can play Region B locked discs, the French disc is the way to go. VC-1 transfer, proper black levels and none of the onscreen titles changed to another language, (unlike the German). I kept that disc, even though I also have the AVC encoded Japanese extended cut.

Looks like the FR disc is out of print sadly.

Early Memphis · 01-19-2017, 08:12 PM

My impression is that only a Japanese set contains the improved version of "Apocalypse", is that still true? It's the only one not in my collection as the US disc sucks.

I believe the set was called "Biohazard" but, despite several Biohazard's listed, the site doesn't show the cover I remember (OOP?). Well, with the last (?) movie of the series coming out, perhaps they'll be an all-new, all-upgraded set released sometime up the road.

Luke B. · 01-19-2017, 10:29 PM

What's on the extended version? The deleted scenes or other material?

bigdaddyhorse · 01-20-2017, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke B.

What's on the extended version? The deleted scenes or other material?

Been forever since I watched the deleted scenes (and have not seen the extended), but here's what is different. Bookmark that site, it rocks!

pathofneo99 · 01-26-2017, 01:15 PM

The new popart steelbook is listed here having MPEG-4 (as opposed to MPEG-2 that US always had). Is this a typo? Can someone confirm? It be awesome to finally have proper black levels in a US version with uncompressed audio.

HD Goofnut · 01-26-2017, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pathofneo99

The new popart steelbook is listed here having MPEG-4 (as opposed to MPEG-2 that US always had). Is this a typo? Can someone confirm? It be awesome to finally have proper black levels in a US version with uncompressed audio.

I wouldn't think it would be a new disc or encode, but you never know.

08-21-2014, 01:47 PM	#44
#Darren Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:1471 Blu-ray reviews: 62	Oh yeah, and they've got to do a nice new scan of #1 because that is one SOFT image.

09-12-2016, 10:47 PM	#45
PRO-630HD Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2009 Blu-ray reviews: 1	Wow is this disc bad. The original at least they put some effort into it. The review sums it up perfectly. This is a direct DVD transfer using the same HD master from 2004 and it is clearly obvious going to caps-a-holic.com http://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go...=67385&i=2&l=0 The black levels are embarrassingly bad and way too high for bluray. I think the best fix is going to chap. 13 where the helicopter crashes. There are multiple fades to black (okay not really, fades to grey) where you can properly adjust the black level. 1:18:06 is one where you can match the black level on the screen to the letterbox bars. I have a 65C6P oled and had to lower my brightness level from 53 to 43 lol! Once this adjustment is done the disc actually even by modern standards looks pretty good and this was the major complaint from the review back in 2007.

09-12-2016, 10:50 PM	#46
javi92 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2013 4K collection:300 Blu-ray collection:4969 DVD collection:875	Holy thread bump, Batman!

09-12-2016, 11:19 PM	#47
PRO-630HD Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2009 Blu-ray reviews: 1	Another great spot is 5:58 in chap. 2 another fade where is states 13 Hours Later on the screen you can clearly see the black levels are all jacked up. Again match the black background into the letterbox bars to fix Sony's screwup and for greatly improved PQ.

09-12-2016, 11:25 PM	#48
SethRex Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2009 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:7 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:127	Has anyone ever just stopped to ask why Germany and Japan got extended cuts but nobody else?

09-13-2016, 08:59 AM	#50
wesslan Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Sweden Blu-ray reviews:1	well what about earlier claims DE has a better(not crushed) scan that US/UK/JP, I really don't see that on caps. DE is even darker than UK....

09-13-2016, 09:24 AM	#51
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	If you don't care about the extended cut and can play Region B locked discs, the French disc is the way to go. VC-1 transfer, proper black levels and none of the onscreen titles changed to another language, (unlike the German). I kept that disc, even though I also have the AVC encoded Japanese extended cut.

09-13-2016, 03:23 PM	#53
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2372 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	I have the DE disc for the extended cut I think it looks good for being an older master in MPEG-2. I only paid about $10 for it. I keep it with the theatrical cut disc in the U.S. steelbook.

12-10-2016, 10:57 PM	#54
AllOuttaBubbleGum Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2013	Picked up the US release along with the rest of the REs in the 5 Film Set at the Mother of All Bargain prices: $14.99. Plenty serviceable picture, I thought, given the age of the master. At the very least, significantly improved over the DVD; no contest. The black levels on my LCD were already problematic, but I had no problem optimizing 'Apocalypse.' I also have the open matte version of this 'Resident' recorded from a Premium cable airing, which I took a quick look at before spinning the blu-ray...and I was reminded how much extra head--and foot--room there is in it. Previously, the "full screen" transfer on the dvd alluded to this, but without the full width of the frame. I hesitate to enjoy the cable version too much, lest I decide I prefer that framing; it will probably never get a decent looking, uncompressed release on blu-ray. There's also an open matte 'Extinction' floating out there too, by the way...

01-19-2017, 08:12 PM	#56
Early Memphis Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Texas 4K collection:9 Blu-ray collection:1233 DVD collection:127 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:657	My impression is that only a Japanese set contains the improved version of "Apocalypse", is that still true? It's the only one not in my collection as the US disc sucks. I believe the set was called "Biohazard" but, despite several Biohazard's listed, the site doesn't show the cover I remember (OOP?). Well, with the last (?) movie of the series coming out, perhaps they'll be an all-new, all-upgraded set released sometime up the road.

01-19-2017, 10:29 PM	#57
Luke B. Special Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2014 Location:Brazil 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:216 DVD collection:13 Blu-ray reviews:2	What's on the extended version? The deleted scenes or other material?

01-26-2017, 01:15 PM	#59
pathofneo99 Active Member Member since:Feb 2014	The new popart steelbook is listed here having MPEG-4 (as opposed to MPEG-2 that US always had). Is this a typo? Can someone confirm? It be awesome to finally have proper black levels in a US version with uncompressed audio.

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