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Old 08-04-2014, 03:53 AM   #41
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Quoted from the review linked in the first post

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Professor Radisson forces each student to sign a pledge that God is dead at the beginning of his philosophy class. Josh refuses, and Radisson tells him he’s going to fail him and break him. Radisson gives him a few minutes in each of the next three classes to get the students to change their minds that God is dead, or to destroy his chances of getting a grade that will get him into law school. Josh’s fiancée, Karen, gets angry at him and tells him to just sign the form that God is dead.*
I have a BS in Philosophy and find this situation completely unrealistic. I can't imagine a philosophy 101 anywhere in the USA having students sign a pledge as described in the movie review.

I would expect if a philosophy student always argued "the Bible says so" they would fail a philosophy course because that's not philosophy. It might be theology, but its absolutely not philosophy.
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:01 AM   #42
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I had a professor tell us in Ancient Civilizations that to believe in the Bible was stupid, actually using those words. Personally I didn't care less about one professor's opinion, but the scenario of the movie, while a little far fetched, isn't that far removed. I personally find it infuriating when professors take religion personally. We're in a free country, and you get to believe whatever you want! And everything I learned while studying for my B.A. only reinforced my believe in God, not diminished it. And yes, I've given myself plenty of reasons to believe otherwise.
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:21 AM   #43
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I agree a professor should not criticize a student's personal religious beliefs.

However the purpose of a philosophy 101 is to provide an introduction to the history of philosophers and philosophical methods and well known philosophical arguments.

The purpose of the course is not for students to oppose learning the course material because it doesn't agree with their religious beliefs.
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:26 AM   #44
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Pure Flix Entertainment is still using lossy soundtracks for Blu-ray releases

I am very disappointed that all 21 of the Pure flix Blu-ray discs that I purchased do not contain a lossless soundtrack like PCM, DTS-HD Master audio, or Dolby TrueHD. In the secular world 99.9% of all Blu-ray titles have a lossless soundtrack.

Even the God’s Not Dead Blu-ray has a lossy soundtrack instead of a lossless soundtrack. God’s Not Dead cost 2 million dollars to make and generated over 61 million dollars in box office sells. There is really no good excuse from my point of view on why Pure Flix Entertainment keeps releasing lossy soundtracks on Blu-ray.

I read Martin Liebmans excellent review regarding God’s Not Dead, however I am waiting for my Blu-ray to arrive around August 5th 2014. According to the review this is another Blu-ray title with a lossy soundtrack. Perhaps the 22nd Pure Flix Entertainment Blu-ray title called Revelation Road 3: The Black Rider might also contain another lossy soundtrack when its released.

At this point it’s really getting to be ridiculous that we keep getting the exact same DVD soundtracks ported over to the Blu-ray titles. Pure Flix entertainment has 2.0 PCM soundtrack masters and 5.1 PCM soundtrack masters that could be ported over to the Blu-ray discs using PCM, DTS-HD Master audio, or Dolby TrueHD. DTS-HD Master audio and Dolby TrueHD become studio master PCM tracks when unzipped by the Blu-ray player or A/V receiver. I would even be happy with native PCM tracks that take more disc space. DTS-HD Mater audio and DolbyTrueHD use lossless compression to save space on the Blu-ray disc.

Click here to contact Pure Flix Entertainment to request lossless soundtracks for all future Blu-ray disc releases. Maybe if they get enough emails there might be a policy change.
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:43 PM   #45
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Just sent my request. Hope it helps.
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Old 08-04-2014, 03:07 PM   #46
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I had a professor tell us in Ancient Civilizations that to believe in the Bible was stupid, actually using those words. Personally I didn't care less about one professor's opinion, but the scenario of the movie, while a little far fetched, isn't that far removed. I personally find it infuriating when professors take religion personally. We're in a free country, and you get to believe whatever you want! And everything I learned while studying for my B.A. only reinforced my believe in God, not diminished it. And yes, I've given myself plenty of reasons to believe otherwise.
Ah this again, one of my favourites...

Its couldn't care less. Not didn't care less! Its an improvement on the could care less I usually see though!
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:37 PM   #47
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If you think rational thought should be mocked and if ignored, liked being hit over the head with preachy religion, bad acting, awful stereotypes and finale concert of some of the worst music ever.....Maybe you will like it.

I found it insulting.

They actually mock a character that had died in the end concert. That's compassion for you.

Easily the worst film of the year imo.
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Pardon me, but did you even SEE this film? The accusation that people mock the character who died is absolutely rubbish and untrue.

The one who has been accused of this is inside a concert when the death takes place and never hears of the accident, so how could he mock it? This would be UNLIKE everything he stood for in his debate with the character.

I've seen this movie twice and I promise you....no one mocks the death of the character.
This has come up a couple times. I read Britbuffguy's comment as saying they mocked a character who had died. That's NOT saying they mocked his death. And yes, no one in the concert knows he has died, so they certainly could not mock his death. And from my understanding of the characters throughout the movie, mocking any death is not something they would ever even consider.

Perhaps the confusion is from that immediately after the death they flash to the concert and the video of Robertson (of Duck Dynasty) belittling the character and praising the student who defended the existence of God. Yes, my word choice would is "belittle" rather than "mock".

I've watched it a couple times now, I never heard of it before Martin's review. The debate between the Professor and the student over Biblical explanation of the creation of the universe and life vs. the scientific theory was very interesting. It's somewhat heavy handed in several areas - it's pretty much impossible not cheer on the Christian student as the underdog because the Professor is such a complete jerk. In fact pretty much everyone who is not a Christian is a complete jerk, for "balance" I guess they threw in the Christian student's girlfriend who is a shallow witch (actually a word rhyming with that). And the ending, IMHO, is pretty bad. It's not heavy handed, it tries to hit you over the head with an iron skillet.

But I'd encourage skeptical folks to give it chance, at least as a rental. I decided over 40 years ago that I didn't believe in the Christian faith of my parents. This movie didn't change my mind about anything, but I give it a C+ for effort, entertainment, and interesting discussions.

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Old 08-05-2014, 01:49 PM   #48
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If there are SO many people who hate this movie, may I ask WHY do you waste your time coming into this thread to share your hate?

Believe it or not, there ARE some of us who enjoyed this film, and your hate posts are kinda killing our buzz in here.

Please do us a favor and just keep scrolling.
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Old 08-05-2014, 04:37 PM   #49
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If there are SO many people who hate this movie, may I ask WHY do you waste your time coming into this thread to share your hate?

Believe it or not, there ARE some of us who enjoyed this film, and your hate posts are kinda killing our buzz in here.

Please do us a favor and just keep scrolling.
So you want to stifle all discussion and opinions of this faith based film unless it supports your positive viewpoint? Hmmmm.
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Old 08-05-2014, 10:45 PM   #50
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So you want to stifle all discussion and opinions of this faith based film unless it supports your positive viewpoint? Hmmmm.
Way to cast false accusation there. That is NOT what I said and you know it. I don't mind reading negative things that are based on the movie alone, but some people take pot-shots at Christianity and faith instead of sticking to the film itself. I know it's hard to keep the subject matter and the film itself separate since they both are about Christianity. As a Christian, I just take offense to cheap pot-shots at my faith.

Sadly, I must confess that Christian films have NEVER been as good as Hollywood blockbusters. They have never had the budget or quality as Hollywood standards. They normally have to use b-list actors and have a much lower quality to the film itself.

I use to review Christian films for independent companies, but stopped because most of them are just so poorly done and are such a pain to sit through.

But....COMPARED to most other Christian films......I found this one to be a huge step up in quality, acting, and budget.

But I know that not everyone appreciates films like these. I just hope it's the film ITSELF that's being attacked and not the subject of faith.
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Old 08-05-2014, 10:56 PM   #51
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Way to cast false accusation there. That is NOT what I said and you know it. I don't mind reading negative things that are based on the movie alone, but some people take pot-shots at Christianity and faith instead of sticking to the film itself.
No, he's right. That's exactly what you said. Your post was complaining about people hating on the movie. Now you're backtracking and saying you don't mind reading negative comments about the movie but not pot shots about your faith, which no one in this thread is doing.
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I do not mind the Christian faith or any faith for that matter. What I do mind is propaganda films that depict anyone not Christian, especially that Muslim father, as a morally bankrupt monster. Its absolutely insane and delusional and intentional.

I dig spiritual discussions and Christian stories and think I will check out Noah much sooner than this film. Watched some more clips and simply cannot deal.

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Old 08-05-2014, 11:41 PM   #53
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I'm sorry. Perhaps I just took it personally. Forgive me. Let the bashing continue.
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I'm sorry. Perhaps I just took it personally. Forgive me. Let the bashing continue.
Lets not please!
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Sadly, I must confess that Christian films have NEVER been as good as Hollywood blockbusters. They have never had the budget or quality as Hollywood standards. They normally have to use b-list actors and have a much lower quality to the film itself.
Yeah, I haven't seen many good ones myself. A lot of them are very heavy-handed, and some are even scary. I have major problems with anyone who tries terrorizing people into accepting Jesus, because He never did.

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Yeah, I was very skeptical at first, but it turned out very well. The part where
[Show spoiler]the Muslim father forces his daughter out of the house
almost made me cry, as did one of the film's last scenes. I haven't seen "Heaven Is For Real" yet, but I've read most of the book; I hope it turns out well. "Passion of the Christ" is still the top Christian film ever made, in my opinion.
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Old 08-06-2014, 04:30 PM   #56
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I'm sorry. Perhaps I just took it personally. Forgive me. Let the bashing continue.
Instead of "Persecution", how about a different Christian perspective on this movie? ChristianAndPopCulture.com:

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Have you heard the one about the Atheist University Professor who was famous at his school for mocking Christianity and a belief in God? You know, the one where a brave Christian student finally stands up to the teacher and calmly and articulately reveals the irrational basis of the “professor’s” atheism and thereby causes the professor to flee the room in shame, at which time the student shares the Gospel with his whole class? The story is always the same: an arrogant, frothing-at-the-mouth atheist faces a Christian student who exposes him as a fraud. Evil is shamed, Good is proclaimed. We share it through chain emails and on social media. We love stories of haughty atheists being put in their place. Now, thanks to Pure Flix Entertainment, this story has come to life in a new motion picture, God’s Not Dead. This could be the first film to be based off of a chain email.

Stories like this can also give believers a false sense of security and superiority. We feel like atheism is obviously stupid and evolution is a fairy-tale for unthinking adults. We become sure in ourselves and our abilities to refute the unbeliever and in the unbeliever’s stupidity. We come to think that we have specific knowledge of the atheist’s perspective and can expose it easily. But what happens when a evangelical meets an atheist with really good questions? False confidence in a straw-man vision of atheism does nothing to build up the faith. If we are honest and humble, we ought to recognize that there are many difficult, troubling, and complex aspects of our faith. This honest recognition may mean the difference between a faith that weathers the storms of life and one which sinks under sudden and unexpected doubts.

Let our prayer be, “I believe, Lord; Help my unbelief,” rather than, “I believe, Lord; Help me mock his unbelief.” Instead of day-dream fantasies of embarrassing atheist professors, let us dream of loving and proclaiming the Gospel in word and deed to everyone.
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While I agree some Christians have become modern-day Pharisees, and the temptation is always there to place our own attempts at purity ahead of God's grace...I also think its disrespectful to claim this film was based off a rumor or chain letter. For those who've actually seen the film, pay attention to the end credits; Pure Flix listed at least 20 different real-life cases, at various schools across the U.S. It may not be an epidemic yet, but professors like the fictional Radisson do exist; they're called "anti-theists". That doesn't make them stupid, but their views are often tainted because they kick all possibilities beyond the natural world out the door from the start.
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While I agree some Christians have become modern-day Pharisees, and the temptation is always there to place our own attempts at purity ahead of God's grace...I also think its disrespectful to claim this film was based off a rumor or chain letter. For those who've actually seen the film, pay attention to the end credits; Pure Flix listed at least 20 different real-life cases, at various schools across the U.S. It may not be an epidemic yet, but professors like the fictional Radisson do exist; they're called "anti-theists". That doesn't make them stupid, but their views are often tainted because they kick all possibilities beyond the natural world out the door from the start.
Only the film's writers can confirm if they were directly inspired by the chain emails, but there most certainly are numerous email chain letters with the very familiar story of a 'brave' Christian student making a 'arrogant' atheist (and also usually 'liberal') Professor look like a fool in his arguments. Try this Google search: chain email atheist professor

Any Professor is certainly free to express atheism in the appropriate context, such as a Philosophy class. But to not allow any discussion or rebuttal from students with different beliefs and opinions would be frowned upon. And to make his students write and sign a statement saying "God is Dead" would not be allowed. And to do that and also openly suggest this will directly affect their grade would be grounds for dismissal.

I have seen this movie, more than once, and own the BD/DVD combo. The ending credits say: "God's Not Dead The Movie was inspired by the following legal cases where University Students And Campus Ministries were condemned for their faith." 'Condemned for their faith' certainly isn't judgmental, is it? In looking over the cases listed most concern the funding and advocacy of religious beliefs in public universities funded with tax dollars. There is certainly controversy and a fine line to define with the 1st Amendment, which in addition to protecting Free Speech also prohibits the federal government from establishing any religion. I scrolled through the list of cases, most concern funding, I couldn't find a single one regarding any professor's actions against religion.

As I've commented previously, I enjoyed a good part of this film. I bought a copy because I'm very involved a rural community food bank. All other volunteers are church going Christians, I am the lone agnostic (actually Buddhist leaning agnostic). We all get along fine, and I join them in prayer before we open the doors to distribute food. When I told them I wasn't Christian one asked if the prayer offended me. I told them no, holding hands with my friends and neighbors in offering thanks for what we have to share with those in need most certainly doesn't offend me, I enjoy it. We just have a difference of opinion on the ultimate recipient of our thanks, and I don't think that difference of opinion is nearly as important as that we are thankful and helping those in need. I want to share God Isn't Dead with them, and will no doubt enjoy the conversations about it.

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I do not mind the Christian faith or any faith for that matter. What I do mind is propaganda films that depict anyone not Christian, especially that Muslim father, as a morally bankrupt monster. Its absolutely insane and delusional and intentional.

I dig spiritual discussions and Christian stories and think I will check out Noah much sooner than this film. Watched some more clips and simply cannot deal.
God’s Not Dead is a fictional Christian movie. However, there is a huge amount of references to actual real life court cases in the United States where Christians have been persecuted. Some of the fictional characters in the God’s Not Dead movie are similar to real life stories of people that have experienced persecution for their Christian faith. The God’s Not Dead movie is not a politically correct movie and it shows a former Muslim being persecuted for her conversion to Christianity in the United States. For example, the conservative Muslim father who follows the teachings of the Quran in the God’s Not Dead movie beats his Christian daughter and disowns her by forcing her to leave home (secular movies in general would never show such a scene since it would be offensive to some Muslims who have a more liberal view of the Quran). This fictional persecution in the God’s Not Dead movie is very mild compared to the reality of what happens sometimes in the United States when a Muslim converts to Christianity. In the United States and other parts of the world there have been honor killings by Muslim fathers which has resulted in daughters being murdered because they converted to Christianity. All one needs to do is google “honor killing” or similar searches and they will find literally hundreds of different cases.

Muslim Father Attacks Pastor, Kills Daughter Inside Church After She Converts To Christianity

Justice Story: 'Die, my daughter, die!' An old-world 'honor killing' in modern St. Louis
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