Are you cutting down on BD now that 4k BD is coming?

[L.J.]

Nope not at all. Planning on not upgrading. Think if you set up a 1080p system and a 4k system just right and set them beside each other their wouldn't be much if any difference. My 1080p now makes it look like the characters could step out of the screen. It being that good there's no reason for me to upgrade.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The first part is true more or less (though it's growing all the time), but the second part is outright wrong: UHD BD will feature greater bit depth, higher dynamic range and a wider colour gamut which can still be utilised by 1080p encodes on the new format.

I'll be there if it all comes about, but I can't get too excited about it yet until I hear directly from some of the studios that they'll be on board.

[Yojimbo68]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

Definitely a lack of enthusiasm compared to last time. It appears everyone is satisfied with Blu-ray as it is, which certainly wasn't the case for DVD in 2005.

If 90% of people in this forum are not interested, what does that say about its chances? I remember most forum people being eager for the HD formats well before they came out. Even several "HD" forums were created in the excitement.

It's kind of sad because with 4K we finally reached a point where the quality is really close to the resolution of 35mm film. It really is an apex of sorts. No, I won't and just can't replace every single Blu-ray but to see films so close to their native resolution is pretty exciting. It's almost like owning a film print of any given movie! Of course, each 4K transfer will have to be approached with caution on a case by case basis. Is the movie transferred properly to 4K? Have they messed with the color palate? And so forth. But I'm definitely intrigued and would like to see and know more.

[ScarredLungs]

Nope. 1080p is all I will need for my home viewing distance.

See post 4

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=113381

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by Yojimbo68

Of course, each 4K transfer will have to be approached with caution on a case by case basis. Is the movie transferred properly to 4K? Have they messed with the color palate? And so forth.

I'm planning ahead.

I just reserved front-row seats for the upcoming forum thread about the 4K Blu-ray release of The Great Escape.

That's going to be an entertaining night in the boxing ring, and there are going to be some epic punches thrown back and forth. The location and date of this thread is still TBA, but I wanted to secure the seats as soon as possible to give myself time to find a girlfriend to come along with me.

[bruceames]

The big unknown of course is how much the other enhancements of UHD (besides resolution) will improve the picture. Those don't depend on screen size or viewing distance. If it's substantial, then we'll start seeing people getting excited that aren't right now.

[pro-bassoonist]

I will most definitely be adding 4K hardware to my existing system. I already have the ability to upscale to 4K and the results are definitely very pleasing. I am looking forward to the finalized hardware, but I am ONLY interested in discs. If I don't have the film I want to add to my library on a disc, I am not interested. Period.

This being said, I am absolutely not slowing down Blu-ray purchases. 4K will be an extension, nothing more. I am looking forward to a number of terrific restorations that have been pre-announced/announced for Blu-ray release this year

I also routinely buy DVDs.

Finally, there are many releases using transfers struck from 2K restorations that will remain the definitive presentations on the home video market. But 4K content will only become easier to access as the studios upgrade their libraries. It will not remain niche.

Pro-B

[tallrichard]

While I stopped buying VHS when DVD became available in March of 1997, Blu-ray hasn't stopped me from buying DVD, and 4K won't stop me from buying either.

As a lover of classic film, I will still take the best quality print I can get but the difference between Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray without improving my entire home theater won't make much of a difference....

IMHO

[antennahead]

Not cutting down at all. I have a 65" ZT60 with a viewing distance of 11ft. Good Blu rays look spectacular on this set. I'm in no rush to upgrade.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Nah, no real interest. I have almost all my favorite films on blu-ray. Half of them didn't even get remasters from their dvd days. I doubt they even be on 4k, let alone remastered in good quality.

[L'armée des ombres]

I'm not cutting down per say but.....the prices we are getting as norm for a 1080p show....OMG what are we going to get for the double ?
We the consumer have to put our foot down......SRP for a new BD $39.95 is just crazy.
What are we getting too $80 !!!!!......think back to those first BD's from FOX that the SRP WAS $39.95!!!!!

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by L'armée des ombres

......think back to those first BD's from FOX that the SRP WAS $39.95!!!!!

The SRP for Fox new releases is still $39.95.

[substance]

Originally Posted by i007spectre

And we all know how that turned out.

I understand what you mean but I meant to say high definition disc format. In 2004-2005 it was referred as hd-dvd(not to be confused with Toshiba's format) for the next coming disc format. Blu-ray name came much later. Just like we call it 4k BD but they might as well come up with a different name when the actual titles are produced.

[AintNoSin]

At some point, I will probably have a UHD TV and UHD Blu-ray player. Until then, it doesn't make a whole lot a sense to hold back in favor of a format that only exists as a draft specification so far.

Once there are actually UHD titles available, and they were films I was interested in owning, I'd be cautious about buying from the first batch of titles on the shelf. We all remember that it took a while for them to learn how to transfer and master movies for BD. I don't want to be caught holding the UHD version of the first Fifth Element BD or the first Patton.

[GenPion]

I must say I am kind of surprised by all the negativity in this thread. UHD 4K Blu-ray is basically just an extension of Blu-ray that offers added improvements to presentation quality. This is a forum for film enthusiasts who (presumably) care about quality.

If you don't want to upgrade right away: fine. If you don't want to upgrade every title: equally fine. Most titles won't probably be re-released anyway. It will mainly be big titles finished at 4K over the past several years, future films made in 4K or higher resolution, and a sampling of popular favorites getting 4K treatment/upgrades. Yes, you might end up wanting to re-buy some titles, and if you don't want to do that for all of them... fine. But this is just a way to make film presentations on home media even better. I don't see how this really has a downside besides the fact you'll probably end up re-buying some films again.

I bet several of you saying you won't upgrade are probably going to end up down the road anyway. This happened with DVD as well, where a lot of people thought the idea behind Blu-ray was a waste. I expect UHD Blu-ray to be less successful than Blu-ray is, namely because it will primarily appeal to the biggest enthusiasts of Blu-ray, but I also expect that many Blu-ray fans currently writing off the format will probably change their minds as soon as they feel a need for a new HDTV. Eventually, the majority of TV's will be 4K.

[HD Goofnut]

No, because most films will never even see a 4K master.

[substance]

I will add 4k capability to my setup soon as discs are available for purchase. I have been collecting disc media since 1995. I learned a thing or two about video transfers along the way. Here is my criteria

1- correct use of edge enhancement(none is better)
2- correct use of video noise reduction(none is better)
3- correct color timing
4- correct contrast enhancement
5- least mastering errors(aliasing/low bitrate)
6- Theatrical soundtract (more important than lossless)
7- best cut of the film (theatrical or director's)

Whichever format has the most of the above will get my money.

Example: I started watching "Seven" the other day and I stopped the disc after 15 minutes. I couldn't stand the teal/orange face of Brad Pitt. Apparently there is a 1997 New Line Entertainment release which has the unmolested version. That will be my definitive disc for this title.

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by L'armée des ombres

I'm not cutting down per say but.....the prices we are getting as norm for a 1080p show....OMG what are we going to get for the double ?
We the consumer have to put our foot down......SRP for a new BD $39.95 is just crazy.
What are we getting too $80 !!!!!......think back to those first BD's from FOX that the SRP WAS $39.95!!!!!

On average, I spent less on DVDs than I spent on VHS tapes.
On average, I spend less on Blu-rays than I spent on DVDs.

It's just a matter of timing and observant shopping.

[sancho]

No. I am fine with blu.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by substance

I will add 4k capability to my setup soon as discs are available for purchase. I have been collecting disc media since 1995. I learned a thing or two about video transfers along the way. Here is my criteria

1- correct use of edge enhancement(none is better)
2- correct use of video noise reduction(none is better)
3- correct color timing
4- correct contrast enhancement
5- least mastering errors(aliasing/low bitrate)
6- Theatrical soundtract (more important than lossless)
7- best cut of the film (theatrical or director's)

Whichever format has the most of the above will get my money.

Example: I started watching "Seven" the other day and I stopped the disc after 15 minutes. I couldn't stand the teal/orange face of Brad Pitt. Apparently there is a 1997 New Line Entertainment release which has the unmolested version. That will be my definitive disc for this title.

I have watched Se7en several times I don't think it looks wrong at all. It is also approved by Fincher.