Joy (2015) 4K UHD

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

But there's still the issue of having someone other than the filmmakers or the original colourist doing the regrading, which for me remains a valid concern regarding older films. If you get someone with taste at the controls then hopefully you'll get a subtle extension of what was originally made, but if we get some gormless tech who likes to twiddle his knobs to maximum it could end up being a horror show.

Even having the original colorist can be overrated. Unless it's someone specifically assigned by the filmmakers like Lou Levinson (Spielberg, Lucas, etc) it can be a tossup. A lot of the time the transfers are just signed off on by a rep - not even the cinematographer or director. And they'll just watch a random scene or two here and there, not the film start to finish. Levinson remarked that some colorists had no idea what the movie looked like projected, they were just trying to make it look good on their monitors. It's changed a lot since the mid-2000s where everything went to DI with the filmmakers involved, but for older films? Best guess.

[Geoff D]

You do tend to see the same names pop up over and over in the digital grading arena though. There's very much a core cadre of those folks who really are the best at what they do and whom the filmmakers trust to take care of their vision time after time, so if it were left up to them then I'd be happy with that.

But I am more relaxed about the whole process now as I've had a small taste of the beauty that these HDR grades can bring to the table, and as you say, with ANY new grading carried out after the fact - HDR or not - it's likely that only a small amount of them were explicitly signed off by the filmmakers themselves, as not everyone has dat clout. Again, it comes down to the taste of the individual colourist and whether they're sensitive to the original goals and ideals of the photography.

[Viking61]

UK pre-order.

http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/joy-4k-.../11273297.html

[tyrok]

Pack shot:

[geoffc]

Originally Posted by Viking61

UK pre-order.

http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/joy-4k-.../11273297.html

Is this exclusive to Zavvi? - Neither HMV/Amazon.co.uk have this listed.

[Viking61]

Originally Posted by geoffc

Is this exclusive to Zavvi? - Neither HMV/Amazon.co.uk have this listed.

Same with Deadpool and The Revenant. I think Amazon UK and HMV are just late in putting new titles up.

[Chloenator]

Got my copy today from Best Buy.

[d514]

Any first impressions? How's the quality compared to the other Fox discs and the Blu-ray?

[JaiMC]

Originally Posted by Chloenator

[center]Got my copy today from Best Buy.

Can you tell me if it's region protected? I can see that Spanish is included in the languages, don't know if it's Latin or Castilian, but I would buy this copy from the USA if it's not protected.

Thanks!

[ray0414]

Review from Robert Harris. He says the hdr grading was excellent for this movie.


http://www.hometheaterforum.com/comm...lu-ray.347508/

[skiizim]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Review from Robert Harris. He says the hdr grading was excellent for this movie.


http://www.hometheaterforum.com/comm...lu-ray.347508/

The movie looked great, a lot better than The Fifth Wave, blind bought the movie, it was good considering it was about a mop.

[d514]

I got the movie last weekend (from France, but the UHD disc is the same in every country anyway).

Compared to the Blu-ray there is not really a difference in terms of sharpness. The 2K DI listed on IMDb could be the reason. I've seen much better 35mm in 4K. There is also some digital tempering going on but I guess this was done in post production and not for the disc. The compression of the UHD disc is better especially in the grainy scenes. The colors seem a little dull on the Blu-ray - not on the UHD Blu-ray.
So, yes, the UHD version is better. But it's not a big difference.

About the movie:
I really liked Silver Linings Playbook, American Hustle was average and Serena (not David Russel, but another Lawrence/Cooper movie) was bad. So I was sceptical about Joy...
...and the movie is great! I just wanted to check out the picture quality and ended up watching the entire movie.

[imsounoriginal]

Just bought a copy for $14.99 ($24.99 + 40% off one used item at FYE); it's a blind buy, looking forward to it. My fifth UHD

[Agent_DVD]

Got Best Buy to price match the $25 price on Amazon.... was missing this one. So now only missing 2 titles

[benhoppel]

Originally Posted by d514

. I've seen much better 35mm in 4K. There is also some digital tempering going on but I guess this was done in post production and not for the disc.

Indeed. The grain is processed at times and "swimming". Pretty ugly.

[rschiks]

Last chance @ 3 for $50....forgot all about Joy

[trevorlj]

US Disc:

                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00800.MPLS                                                      HEVC    2:04:00 49,263,796,224  52,491,953,551  52.97   43.34   DTS-HD Master 5.1 3250Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DD AC3 5.1 448Kbps

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     Joy
Disc Label:     JOY
Disc Size:      52,491,953,551 bytes
Protection:     AACS2
Extras:         Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo:         0.7.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00800.MPLS
Length:                 2:04:00.933 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   49,263,796,224 bytes
Total Bitrate:          52.97 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-H HEVC Video       43342 kbps          2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3250 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  3250 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz /   448 kbps / DN -31dB
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         448 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz /   448 kbps / DN -31dB
DTS Audio                       French          768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz /   768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio                       German          768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz /   768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio                       Italian         768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz /   768 kbps / 24-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         58.999 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         44.436 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          35.927 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Danish          42.690 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Dutch           38.589 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Finnish         39.030 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German          48.162 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         44.321 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Norwegian       45.856 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Swedish         37.358 kbps

[moviemaker]

Loved this movie in the theater. Actually went and saw it twice. I know I'm in the minority. But it just hit me emotionally in a way most modern movies don't. And I love the cinematography by Linus Sandgren.

very happy to have the 4K, which is just insane how much it's going for.