Lone Survivor 4K UHD (2013) - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

xxBachelor1981xx · 08-10-2016, 05:30 PM

This is one of my favorite 4K HDR. It looks damn good with the trees and how the light shines through. Even the detail with the faces and the cuts on them. I really want to see more War Films come out in 4K now.

Gamma_Winstead · 08-10-2016, 05:54 PM

I'm really curious to check this out! I really enjoyed the film, but I'm not sure how much replay value I'd get. I haven't re-watched it since I bought it. It's the new format curse of buying movies cause they look nice!

RyRyMcNizzy13 · 08-11-2016, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by garyd97

I was going to buy until I saw what they did to the slipcover and disc art. Eco cases are bad enough , but will hopefully be able to replace those.

lmao. wow.

Opips3 · 08-11-2016, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by garyd97

It is ridiculous to have those ugly uk ratings on the US discs. I refuse to buy it now, not supporting this.

Really! You refused this star rating on disc like as

acua · 08-11-2016, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by F34R

I think a superb Saving Private Ryan HDR/4k release would be AMAZING.

Oh yeah, me too.

Brahmzy · 08-13-2016, 02:36 PM

Just returned LS UHD to Amazon. Don't let them get away with this soft crappy upscale nonsense people. Just a cash grab.

F34R · 08-13-2016, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brahmzy

Just returned LS UHD to Amazon. Don't let them get away with this soft crappy upscale nonsense people. Just a cash grab.

Bad quality?

nusilver · 08-15-2016, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by F34R

Bad quality?

No, not at all. He's tripping. He seems to think a 2K upconvert can't look better on UHD than Blu. False, false, false.

ray0414 · 08-15-2016, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nusilver

No, not at all. He's tripping. He seems to think a 2K upconvert can't look better on UHD than Blu. False, false, false.

Thats not at all why he returned it.

He returned it because he believes the upscale process for this movie produced a softer image than what the 1080p blu ray offers. There are plenty of great 2k upscales out there.

Geoff D · 08-15-2016, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by d514

It may be odd for US releases but it's more or less a standard with european releases. I have lots of German Blu-rays with UK logos on them. Also French releases with German rating logos etc.

They just want to save a few cents by using the same disc label for many countries.

Indeed, it's a very common cost-saving measure across Euro/Aus releases but it's not something I've ever seen on a UK/US disc. Even when Universal have used the exact same BD for UK and US they've never shared the disc art like that to my knowledge. And it's not like they've put the French, German, Italian (or whatever) ratings on there too, just the UK/EIRE ones.

[edit] Though it appears as if there's not a lot of alternate language options, it's very much a North American disc so I guess they figured "hey, those Limeys talk English too, might as well put their ratings on there and save a few bucks".

Makes sense given how these UHDs won't be replicated in huge amounts right now.

nusilver · 08-15-2016, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ray0414

Thats not at all why he returned it.

He returned it because he believes the upscale process for this movie produced a softer image than what the 1080p blu ray offers.

That's a pretty generous read of what he wrote.

ray0414 · 08-15-2016, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nusilver

That's a pretty generous read of what he wrote.

He wrote his thoughts about this movie and Oblivion. His thoughts are exactly same on both movies.

ray0414 · 08-15-2016, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nusilver

That's a pretty generous read of what he wrote.

Read below

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Originally Posted by Brahmzy

LS DOES suffer the same softness. Maybe not as noticeable, but it's a huge step down in sharpness from the BD. On the BD, distance detail, pores on the face, weapon details, trees etc are crystal clear/sharp. Not so on the UHD. No pores visible etc.

Opips3 · 08-15-2016, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ray0414

He wrote his thoughts about this movie and Oblivion. His thoughts are exactly same on both movies.

He lied.

ray0414 · 08-15-2016, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Opips3

He lied.

He's not lying about it, these pictures are completely useless with the topic at hand. These pictures explain how native 4k compares to 1080p, not a botched upscale job vs 1080p.

Opips3 · 08-15-2016, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ray0414

He's not lying about it, these pictures are completely useless with the topic at hand. These pictures explain how native 4k compares to 1080p, not a botched upscale job vs 1080p.

What about Atmos or DTS:X and HDR?

ray0414 · 08-15-2016, 09:12 PM

Spectracal is releasing a very large report in October regarding the current state of 4k HDR. And I can assure you it is going to call out these crappy 2k upscales. (There are good upscales and bad ones).

Spectracal compared 4k hdr vs 1080p blu ray of man of steel earlier this year, and Stacy Spears was not happy to find details and textures missing on the vudu version. Missing texture is common at some point on 2k upscale discs. You don't know it unless you know what to look for. But spectracal had 2 identical tvs side by side when they compared.

I hope spectracal did a thorough investigation of every 2k upscale released.

Geoff D · 08-15-2016, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ray0414

Spectracal is releasing a very large report in October regarding the current state of 4k HDR. And I can assure you it is going to call out these crappy 2k upscales. (There are good upscales and bad ones).

Spectracal compared 4k hdr vs 1080p blu ray of man of steel earlier this year, and Stacy Spears was not happy to find details and textures missing on the vudu version. Missing texture is common at some point on 2k upscale discs. You don't know it unless you know what to look for. But spectracal had 2 identical tvs side by side when they compared.

I hope spectracal did a thorough investigation of every 2k upscale released.

Come on dude, streaming versions are what they are: pre-managed and encoded to fit a very small bitrate, I don't place any importance in the differences that Stacey found in that case because streaming is its own thing. Comparing the UHD Blu to the HD Blu would be much more illuminating.

But ahead of their report I'll stick my neck on the line and state that UHD Blu-rays like San Andreas, Pi and Lego have more measurable, resolvable spatial detail than the 1080p Blu, having directly compared them both running simultaneously on the same TV.

xxBachelor1981xx · 08-15-2016, 10:46 PM

Maybe I am in the minority I thought Lone Survivor was one of the best UHD I have seen. Oblivion could of been better but I didn't think it was bad looking still thought it was better then the bluray. Maybe it is different based on each persons TV and Settings.

Dreamliner330 · 08-16-2016, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xxBachelor1981xx

Maybe I am in the minority I thought Lone Survivor was one of the best UHD I have seen. Oblivion could of been better but I didn't think it was bad looking still thought it was better then the bluray.

Pretty sure this statement is the current consensus.

08-10-2016, 05:30 PM	#41
xxBachelor1981xx Power Member Member since:Jun 2009 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:11 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:339	This is one of my favorite 4K HDR. It looks damn good with the trees and how the light shines through. Even the detail with the faces and the cuts on them. I really want to see more War Films come out in 4K now.

08-10-2016, 05:54 PM	#42
Gamma_Winstead Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:U.S.G. Ishimura 4K collection:118 Blu-ray collection:764 Blu-ray reviews: 36 Trading Score:6	I'm really curious to check this out! I really enjoyed the film, but I'm not sure how much replay value I'd get. I haven't re-watched it since I bought it. It's the new format curse of buying movies cause they look nice!

08-13-2016, 02:36 PM	#46
Brahmzy Senior Member Member since:Dec 2014 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Trading Score:28	Just returned LS UHD to Amazon. Don't let them get away with this soft crappy upscale nonsense people. Just a cash grab.

08-15-2016, 09:12 PM	#57
ray0414 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2015 Location:Michigan, USA, 35yo Trading Score:9	Spectracal is releasing a very large report in October regarding the current state of 4k HDR. And I can assure you it is going to call out these crappy 2k upscales. (There are good upscales and bad ones). Spectracal compared 4k hdr vs 1080p blu ray of man of steel earlier this year, and Stacy Spears was not happy to find details and textures missing on the vudu version. Missing texture is common at some point on 2k upscale discs. You don't know it unless you know what to look for. But spectracal had 2 identical tvs side by side when they compared. I hope spectracal did a thorough investigation of every 2k upscale released.

08-15-2016, 10:46 PM	#59
xxBachelor1981xx Power Member Member since:Jun 2009 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:11 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:339	Maybe I am in the minority I thought Lone Survivor was one of the best UHD I have seen. Oblivion could of been better but I didn't think it was bad looking still thought it was better then the bluray. Maybe it is different based on each persons TV and Settings.

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