Los Angeles Times article: DVD Format War apears to be OVER! - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

kolasi · 01-05-2008, 05:52 PM

the only ones who will go dl hd movies will be the disgruntled hd dud fanboys who refuse to go blu.

Deacon220 · 01-05-2008, 05:57 PM

I can only imagine that your ISP will stand still at the sight of these mega downloads. ISP's sell peices of their bandwidth to many customers, you get a specific amount of the bandwidth they have available but they count on you not using it 24/7. Can you imagine the impact of hundreds or thousands of people hammering the ISP's lines for hours or days on end all at the same time? If this happens I they will have to purchase more bandwidth and I promise they'll raise our rates.

HDAllTheWay · 01-05-2008, 07:55 PM

This is a great turn for BD. Keep in mind though Microsoft has billions of dollars in reserves and as many are are aware they have the ability to pump tons of money into it and take a loss for several years and then turn it into a profit and a standard. Also expect to see IPTV announcements and more partherships with cable companies going forward.

I agree with most of the folks here in that optical media is here to stay for a while. "a while" is the operative term. Anyone who believes that digital downloads won't eventually become norm is a complete tool. As infrastructure develops, this service will become more widely employed and I can almost gaurentee you that Microsoft will be involved.

Teazle · 01-05-2008, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDAllTheWay

Keep in mind though Microsoft has billions of dollars in reserves and as many are are aware they have the ability to pump tons of money into it and take a loss for several years and then turn it into a profit and a standard.

Yeah, just like with Xbox, except there are still no profits and nothing like an industry standard.

FormallyHDDVD · 01-05-2008, 08:03 PM

I want everyone to know I am a BluRay guy now. I am not going to be like some out there, and think it might last...I'm jumping ship with only 8 HDDVD's purchased so far. The horizon now is looking blu.

jling84 · 01-05-2008, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDAllTheWay

This is a great turn for BD. Keep in mind though Microsoft has billions of dollars in reserves and as many are are aware they have the ability to pump tons of money into it and take a loss for several years and then turn it into a profit and a standard. Also expect to see IPTV announcements and more partherships with cable companies going forward.

I agree with most of the folks here in that optical media is here to stay for a while. "a while" is the operative term. Anyone who believes that digital downloads won't eventually become norm is a complete tool. As infrastructure develops, this service will become more widely employed and I can almost gaurentee you that Microsoft will be involved.

Yeah no thanks, I'd like to own my movies not rent them in perpetuity.

FormallyHDDVD · 01-05-2008, 08:07 PM

All I have to say is I was HDDVD all the way. Since the news yesterday, I'm getting off the ship before it sinks. Hello my BluRay family!

Teazle · 01-05-2008, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FormallyHDDVD

All I have to say is I was HDDVD all the way. Since the news yesterday, I'm getting off the ship before it sinks. Hello my BluRay family!

If that's the case shouldn't your username be "FormerlyHD-DVD"?

Batman2 · 01-05-2008, 08:10 PM

Digital download will not have any real future.

Right now we have ISP's that cap our downloads or lower our speeds if we download to much, so the thought of downloading a 50GB film over the internet is a pipe dream for us folks in the UK.

I know speeds will get faster, but by then Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD) will be here which stores 3.9TB per disc.

Check it out for yourselves HERE.

fonks25 · 01-05-2008, 08:16 PM

digital downloads, yeah, let's collect Hard Drives instead of plastic discs with pretty pictures on it.

BorrowedTime · 01-05-2008, 08:21 PM

With regards to Downloadable distribution....

All the arguements against it, point to (A) Storage, or (B) Download speeds. There's one point that I've realized that everyone tends to miss. Monthly data transfer caps.

The fastest commercially available internet in my area (Calgary, Alberta) is Shaw Digital High Speed Nitro. This service costs about $100/mo. for internet alone; no cable TV, or Digital phone bundles. Maximum Download speed is 25 Mbps and Upload speed is 1 Mbps. Maximum monthly transfer is 150GB. If you go over that limit you have to pay additional money/penalties to the cable company.

How many movies do you purchase every month? How quickly do you think you'd exceed that 150GB cap, if you include High Def movie purchases, music (mp3/Itunes), pictures, uploading crap to social network sites (myspace/facebook/etc).

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01-05-2008, 05:52 PM	#41
kolasi Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:connecticut	the only ones who will go dl hd movies will be the disgruntled hd dud fanboys who refuse to go blu.

01-05-2008, 05:57 PM	#42
Deacon220 Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Dallas, Texas Blu-ray reviews:3	I can only imagine that your ISP will stand still at the sight of these mega downloads. ISP's sell peices of their bandwidth to many customers, you get a specific amount of the bandwidth they have available but they count on you not using it 24/7. Can you imagine the impact of hundreds or thousands of people hammering the ISP's lines for hours or days on end all at the same time? If this happens I they will have to purchase more bandwidth and I promise they'll raise our rates.

01-05-2008, 07:55 PM	#43
HDAllTheWay Junior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Seattle, WA	This is a great turn for BD. Keep in mind though Microsoft has billions of dollars in reserves and as many are are aware they have the ability to pump tons of money into it and take a loss for several years and then turn it into a profit and a standard. Also expect to see IPTV announcements and more partherships with cable companies going forward. I agree with most of the folks here in that optical media is here to stay for a while. "a while" is the operative term. Anyone who believes that digital downloads won't eventually become norm is a complete tool. As infrastructure develops, this service will become more widely employed and I can almost gaurentee you that Microsoft will be involved.

01-05-2008, 08:03 PM	#45
FormallyHDDVD Junior Member Member since:Jan 2008	I want everyone to know I am a BluRay guy now. I am not going to be like some out there, and think it might last...I'm jumping ship with only 8 HDDVD's purchased so far. The horizon now is looking blu.

01-05-2008, 08:07 PM	#47
FormallyHDDVD Junior Member Member since:Jan 2008	All I have to say is I was HDDVD all the way. Since the news yesterday, I'm getting off the ship before it sinks. Hello my BluRay family!

01-05-2008, 08:10 PM	#49
Batman2 Senior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:UK 4K collection:51 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:313 Trading Score:1	Digital download will not have any real future. Right now we have ISP's that cap our downloads or lower our speeds if we download to much, so the thought of downloading a 50GB film over the internet is a pipe dream for us folks in the UK. I know speeds will get faster, but by then Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD) will be here which stores 3.9TB per disc. Check it out for yourselves HERE.

01-05-2008, 08:16 PM	#50
fonks25 Junior Member Member since:Dec 2007	digital downloads, yeah, let's collect Hard Drives instead of plastic discs with pretty pictures on it.

01-05-2008, 08:21 PM	#51
BorrowedTime Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Calgary, Alberta, Canada	With regards to Downloadable distribution.... All the arguements against it, point to (A) Storage, or (B) Download speeds. There's one point that I've realized that everyone tends to miss. Monthly data transfer caps. The fastest commercially available internet in my area (Calgary, Alberta) is Shaw Digital High Speed Nitro. This service costs about $100/mo. for internet alone; no cable TV, or Digital phone bundles. Maximum Download speed is 25 Mbps and Upload speed is 1 Mbps. Maximum monthly transfer is 150GB. If you go over that limit you have to pay additional money/penalties to the cable company. How many movies do you purchase every month? How quickly do you think you'd exceed that 150GB cap, if you include High Def movie purchases, music (mp3/Itunes), pictures, uploading crap to social network sites (myspace/facebook/etc).

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