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Old 02-09-2019, 11:39 PM   #41
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Old 02-09-2019, 11:39 PM   #42
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BD players cannot send a 4x3 image. At least not through HDMI. There are two settings:
Zoom 4x3 to 16x9 or
Player creates 16x9 image by adding side bars to 4x3 image
Go into players settings and change it so that player adds the side bars.
I'd agree but all my other 4:3 DVDs get the side bars. This is the only DVD where it's zoomed in instead.
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I recently watched all 7 seasons in a long bingeing marathon this past Halloween and none were zoomed in. Every episode from every season displayed in their correct 4:3 aspect ratio.

I have never needed to use the zoom function except when watching an ancient non-anamorphic dvd. The last such instance was when watching True Lies.
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:56 AM   #44
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Actually they can transmit any aspect ratio through HDMI as long as the connected monitor can accommodate it. I have never heard of any player not being able to display a true 4:3 image on a 16:9 TV via HDMI. All of mine can display 4:3 content without zooming options. I think you may be confusing zooming with the formatting settings on the player.
Maybe it depends on brand of player. I've had 3 Sonys and all state in the manual that the player can only send a 16x9 image through HDMI.
There is a specific setting for how you want the player to handle 4x3 content with two options:
Zoom 4x3 to 16x9
Player creates 16x9 image by adding sidebars.

Whichever you choose actual 16x9 content is not affected. 4x3 content on BDS and some DVDs have the side bars on the discs themselves. They are not affected because they are already 16x9.

Looked in manual. It's the Screen Format setting.
Full: player zooms/stretches 4x3 to 16x9 image to send to tv
Normal:changes the picture size to fit the tv in original aspect ratio. What the player does is change 4x3 to 16x9 by adding side bars so it can send a 16x9 image that can be viewed as 4x3.

These are the only two choices. At no time is the player ever sending a 4x3 signal to the tv. If you tell the player it is hooked up to a 4x3 tv it might send a 4x3 image. Haven't tested that.

When my tvs (Samsung) are set to 16x9, 4x3 discs are stretched to fill screen with dvd player(component hook up). Same dvd has side bars when played in BD player on same 16x9 tv setting. In fact I cannot eliminate the side bars when watching 4x3 in BD player because they are being generated by the the player not the tv.

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Old 02-10-2019, 12:07 PM   #45
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I recently watched all 7 seasons in a long bingeing marathon this past Halloween and none were zoomed in. Every episode from every season displayed in their correct 4:3 aspect ratio.

I have never needed to use the zoom function except when watching an ancient non-anamorphic dvd. The last such instance was when watching True Lies.
Sorry, I'm referring to the cartoon series
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:34 PM   #46
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"If you want to play a DVD on your PC with Blu Ray or DVD player program, but the aspect ratio of your DVD doesn’t match your monitor, in most cases, you don’t have to change it like mentioned above. You can change the aspect ratio of the playback within the player program that you use."

The same applies to stand alone players connected to a TV.

https://www.leawo.org/tutorial/43-or...e-it-1373.html

The placement of either horizontal or vertical black bars is what allows a fixed ratio screen, 16:9 (also known as 1.78:1), to display different aspect ratios. Vertical bars allow for the image to displayed in 4:3. Horizontal bars allow for images to be displayed in 2.35:1, among others.

"aspect ratio is the relationship of the width of a video image compared to its height."

Players allow you to modify the aspect ratio of the disc content if desired. They output any and all aspect ratios based on the disc content, which can in turn be modified by the user. TV settings can be set to display exactly what the player sends or they, too, can modify how the sent image is displayed based on user choices.

Additionally, all of my players, as well as my TV itself, allow me to zoom the image and eliminate either the horizontal, or vertical black bars, that frame some images. There is a "zoom" button right on the player's remote control that cycles through all of the possibilities.

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Old 02-10-2019, 03:36 PM   #47
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Maybe it depends on brand of player. I've had 3 Sonys and all state in the manual that the player can only send a 16x9 image through HDMI.
There is a specific setting for how you want the player to handle 4x3 content with two options:
Zoom 4x3 to 16x9
Player creates 16x9 image by adding sidebars.

Whichever you choose actual 16x9 content is not affected. 4x3 content on BDS and some DVDs have the side bars on the discs themselves. They are not affected because they are already 16x9.

Looked in manual. It's the Screen Format setting.
Full: player zooms/stretches 4x3 to 16x9 image to send to tv
Normal:changes the picture size to fit the tv in original aspect ratio. What the player does is change 4x3 to 16x9 by adding side bars so it can send a 16x9 image that can be viewed as 4x3.

These are the only two choices. At no time is the player ever sending a 4x3 signal to the tv. If you tell the player it is hooked up to a 4x3 tv it might send a 4x3 image. Haven't tested that.

When my tvs (Samsung) are set to 16x9, 4x3 discs are stretched to fill screen with dvd player(component hook up). Same dvd has side bars when played in BD player on same 16x9 tv setting. In fact I cannot eliminate the side bars when watching 4x3 in BD player because they are being generated by the the player not the tv.
That is weird. I used to work in electronics retail for years & never ran into that issue without a settings adjustment. I have owned, Sony, Samsung & LG Blu Ray Players. & Visio, Panasonic, SONY & Samsung HDTVs. I do know though that HDMI can indeed transmit a 4:3 on a 16:9 tv as the cable has nothing to do with the aspect ratios to the monitor (I worded it incorrectly in my last post) but transmits the data (from the settings selected) on the source end to the receiving/monitor end.

I'm watching season 4 of the X-Files right now on my PS3. as I type this post. The PS3s UPSCALE setting when set to FULL stretches the 4:3 to 16:9 but when on the NORMAL setting it is the original 4:3. (both will "upscale content from 480 to 720/1080 depending on your TV's max resolution) DOUBLE SCALE makes it smaller like a non-anamorphic widescreen with the black bars on all 4 sides & when the setting is selected to OFF you get the stretched 4:3 to 16:9 (however, it is the native 480i resolution) vs the 720 or 1080 resolution when the setting is FULL or NORMAL.

My Samsung HDTV's picture options for Size has the options of:16:9, ZOOM 1, ZOOM 2, WIDE FIT, 4:3, & SCREEN FIT. Mine is set to "SCREEN FIT" as I found out with the Disney WOW calibration Disc that the 16:9 setting I previously had was actually zooming in where I lost about an inch of picture on all 4 sides from my PS3 menu, movies & games.

Are you outside of the US? maybe it's different in other countries but I can't see how. i don't know. Sometimes it's one of those things you have to see in person to determine which settings to adjust or to leave alone & every brand TV or player may have more (or less) settings in different places in their menus.

Don't know if that helps you & the other poster or not.
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With my player/ tv it's like when 4x3 content is broadcast in 16x9.
When Turner Classic Movies in HD is showing a 4x3 movie the sidebars are part of the transmission. That's why the TCM logo appears in corner of side bars, the sidebars are not generated by the tv.
If I'm watching a 4x3 DVD in BD player and set tv to 4x3, the TV squishes the image, side bars and all to 4X3 and creates it's own second set of side bars.
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Sounds like a settings conflict between TV and player.

My TV is set to display 16:9 Auto meaning it will display any incoming signal in the aspect ratio received. My disc player "TV aspect ratio" setting is also set to 16:9 auto meaning that it will send whatever aspect ratio the content on the disc is encoded in. All of that works fine unless you are playing an ancient non-anamorphic DVD.

From player manual:

"16:9 Wide/Auto(default)–16:9 content will be displayed in its native aspect ratio, and 4:3 content will be displayed with black borders on both sides in order to maintain the original 4:3 aspect ratio."

Most disc packaging states what aspect ratio the content is presented in and sometimes even gives you a choice. Those early flipper dvd discs had a widescreen image on one side of the dvd disc and a full screen image (4:3) on the other.

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With my player/ tv it's like when 4x3 content is broadcast in 16x9.
When Turner Classic Movies in HD is showing a 4x3 movie the sidebars are part of the transmission. That's why the TCM logo appears in corner of side bars, the sidebars are not generated by the tv.
If I'm watching a 4x3 DVD in BD player and set tv to 4x3, the TV squishes the image, side bars and all to 4X3 and creates it's own second set of side bars.
Hmmm..You got me stumped. Some HD cable stations do broadcast their content in archaic 4:3 format even if their programs & news are in 16:9 format. This makes a modern show look like you squished it to 4:3 & the old content squished even more, less than 4:3 image. We have to use the Zoom on the TV to make it look normal for any show. That is the only station that does this so we know it's not the setting on out TV or HD Cable tuner. My Aunt has a few other stations that do that to her & she is in another state, that's why I think in that case it's the TV station still transmitting for archaic CRTs. & in 2019 CRTs can only receive todays digital signal from cable via a converter box. Like I said though, it's hard sometimes to tell exactly you less you see in in person.
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Sounds like a settings conflict between TV and player.

My TV is set to display 16:9 Auto meaning it will display any incoming signal in the aspect ratio received. My disc player "TV aspect ratio" setting is also set to 16:9 auto meaning that it will send whatever aspect ratio the content on the disc is encoded in. All of that works fine unless you are playing an ancient non-anamorphic DVD.

From player manual:

"16:9 Wide/Auto(default)–16:9 content will be displayed in its native aspect ratio, and 4:3 content will be displayed with black borders on both sides in order to maintain the original 4:3 aspect ratio."

Most disc packaging states what aspect ratio the content is presented in and sometimes even gives you a choice. Those early flipper dvd discs had a widescreen image on one side of the dvd disc and a full screen image (4:3) on the other.
Ahhhh Yes, that can also be a factor. Good call. I almost forgot about those.
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Sounds like a settings conflict between TV and player.

My TV is set to display 16:9 Auto meaning it will display any incoming signal in the aspect ratio received. My disc player "TV aspect ratio" setting is also set to 16:9 auto meaning that it will send whatever aspect ratio the content on the disc is encoded in. All of that works fine unless you are playing an ancient non-anamorphic DVD.

From player manual:

"16:9 Wide/Auto(default)–16:9 content will be displayed in its native aspect ratio, and 4:3 content will be displayed with black borders on both sides in order to maintain the original 4:3 aspect ratio."

Most disc packaging states what aspect ratio the content is presented in and sometimes even gives you a choice. Those early flipper dvd discs had a widescreen image on one side of the dvd disc and a full screen image (4:3) on the other.
Everything works fine. I leave the tv on 16X9 all the time and the BD player sends a 16x9 picture of 4x3 so it displays correctly even though the tv is on 16x9 because the player adds the side bars, not the tv. I am never using the TV's side bars to watch 4x3 content with BD player.
If I use DVD player, then I have to switch tv back and forth between 4x3 or 16x9 depending on the content. My Samsung can't switch display modes on it's own by detection.

If I want to watch a disc that is 4x3 letterbox, setting the BD player to FULL will automatically zoom the 4x3 picture, up and down, sending the tv a picture that matches what an anamorphic widescreen disc would be.
With the DVD player I have to do it with the TV settings.
Same with open matte 4x3 of 1:85:1 movie. BD will do the zoom function horizontal and vertical and send it to tv. With DVD player have to change tv setting.

With cable tv.
If I toggle between the SD and HD signals of Walking Dead, the SD will be stretched with bars at top and bottom and the HD will display proper.
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When will this ever get a Blu-Ray release it least one could hope a 4K HDR but I highly doubt it or HBO gets the rights back so they can finally stream it on HBO Go it really ticks me off that the series was sold to some unknown studio just leaving it to collect dust when some major studio should buy the series.
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When will this ever get a Blu-Ray release it least one could hope a 4K HDR but I highly doubt it or HBO gets the rights back so they can finally stream it on HBO Go it really ticks me off that the series was sold to some unknown studio just leaving it to collect dust when some major studio should buy the series.
This is the sort of series that Shout!/ Scream Factory or Mill Creek would release if the owner is willing to license it. Horror is a popular genre and someone might get it done.
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I sent an email to Shout/Scream Factory for a title suggestion and they replied with a "thanks for letting us now there's interest" type of reply. I guess if enough people email them, it might motivate them to release it on Blu-ray. The first two seasons look ok on DVD, but the other seasons look really bad, like vhs quality bad. I don't know what they shot those episodes on
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It would be amazing if Scream Factory released this series on blu at some point. The quality of what’s available now is too low. I can’t even tell if I have the legit box set or a bootleg because of it. A new set would eliminate all of it’s issues.
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What are the rights issues with this series? Even though it was made for HBO, I saw somewhere that apparently they no longer even have it, which is why it's not on HBO Max. According to IMDb, the production companies were HBO and Tales From the Crypt Holdings. I assume the latter company has long since been dissolved.

I've always been fond of horror anthologies, and while I didn't really watch this one growing up (we didn't have HBO) I've seen some episodes and seeing them again recently made me want to get a hold of the entire series. Would love a new remastered release.
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Kind of sad that it never got a reboot.
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When I bought the TFTC set the discs were completely mixed around and the cases they came in felt like cheapest dvd cases I've ever held....brittle and thin, so I bought new ones and fixed it. It's a sin when such a gem of a show doesn't get the release it should =[
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