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Old 11-02-2018, 08:09 PM   #41
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My copy was shipped today, should have it by Monday from BB.
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Old 11-04-2018, 12:46 PM   #42
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On the features if you will. What interests me is it says it has deleted scenes. I don't recall the earlier 3-disc set having deleted scenes, outside of the director's cut. BB has their street date one week earlier than Amazon. I love this movie though.
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Really bad news...

Just tried to play the director's cut disc and the sound is lossy 5.1 ONLY along with a 2.0 PCM track. Only the theatrical cut has a lossless DTS HD Master audio.

There never were separate deleted scenes on the MGM 3-disc DVD or this release.
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Old 11-04-2018, 11:13 PM   #44
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how’s the PQ of DC and TC? thanks
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Old 11-05-2018, 07:39 AM   #45
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Yeah, is the DC in HD?
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Default Deleted Scenes...

How many are there and how long? Thx. Also, why does Best Buy have this coming a week earlier than Amazon? Yeh the deleted scenes have never been available to my knowledge. I also preferred the DC though, but can't wait to check them out. The DC makes the romantic angle a lot better since it's developed more. They have that early scene together in the car. I remember it being in the trailers, but hated when it was absent from the final film. In the theatrical cut it spends so much time with hearing her letters, but having that early scene makes more sense for him to have stronger feelings for her.
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Yeah, is the DC in HD?
Yes. The horrid edge enhancement that plagued the DVD is gone.
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How many are there and how long? Thx. Also, why does Best Buy have this coming a week earlier than Amazon? Yeh the deleted scenes have never been available to my knowledge. I also preferred the DC though, but can't wait to check them out. The DC makes the romantic angle a lot better since it's developed more. They have that early scene together in the car. I remember it being in the trailers, but hated when it was absent from the final film. In the theatrical cut it spends so much time with hearing her letters, but having that early scene makes more sense for him to have stronger feelings for her.
There is also an additional action scene where they are attacked by a sniper in a tree.
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Theatrical Cut

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Old 11-07-2018, 07:50 AM   #50
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Only lossy 5.1 sound on the DC....WTF it's 2018 not 2008
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Old 11-09-2018, 12:16 AM   #51
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Per MVD, and the fact that many people have already received the release, the release date hasn't changed despite Amazon claiming otherwise.

https://mvdb2b.com/s/Windtalkers2Dis...tion/MVD1500BR
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Only lossy 5.1 sound on the DC....WTF it's 2018 not 2008
I can´t believe this either. I was so eager to finally get the DC on blu-ray and now it only comes with a lossy 5.1 track or a shitty (sorry, it is a modern war movie that has a 5.1 track, that´s why I call it shitty) 2.0 track. They can keep it.

Guess I have to wait for a "real" quality release from somewhere else.

Wouldn´t be surprised if there will be a decent release in the UK in the near future. Fingers crossed...
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Any info if region free or A only?
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Just picked my copy ou of my mailbox. Back cover doesn't mention any deleted scenes. Does this mean they were dropped?
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Default Director's Intro and Multi-View Battle Sequences?

Can anyone with the discs please tell me if the Director Introduction to the Director's Cut Version of the film and the Multi-View Battle Sequences feature has made it over to the Blu? I don't see those two features listed on the back. I was hoping to get rid of my DVD edition but if those aren't carried over.....


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Only lossy 5.1 sound on the DC....WTF it's 2018 not 2008
... and the "English" lossy 5.1 track is just 384 kbps, yet the "French" lossy 5.1 track is 448 kbps.
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For the life of me I can't find them anywhere on mine either. Here's what's weird, DVDTALK mentions 15 minutes, but says they're the cut scenes from the DC, but I don't see them anywhere on either disc. I hope someone can fill us in.
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Old 11-23-2018, 07:53 PM   #58
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If they port over the extended cut and all the bonus features from the three disc set, this will be an easy day one
The chances of that are probably slim and none.
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The chances of that are probably slim and none.
It has nearly all the extras from the three disc DVD except for the MGM trailer gallery along with both cuts of the film. There are no seperate deleted scenes on this release.
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No deleted scenes and the introduction from John Woo is missing. Image quality of the DC seams fine to me. Audio was ok but missing the kind of punch I would expect from a post year 2000 war movie.

At around the 15 min mark in the scene with the hearing test I noticed a slight jitter of the image in some shots. Compared the scene with my UK DVD copy and it was the same. So I asume it is inherent in the filmed material.
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