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Old 07-17-2018, 10:14 PM   #41
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He shoots it down at every chance and just seems like it’s done out of spite or something imo.
OR just maybe he's told the story and is satisfied with the ending. He sees no need to go any further with it and knows anyone going further with it now 30 years later would not be able to capture the same magic.
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Old 07-17-2018, 10:22 PM   #42
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This really bothers me. Not because I desperately want a part 4 or a remake. I’m not a huge BTTF fan but I liked the movies well enough.

It just bothers me that he’s so adamant about it. Like it’s being done out of spite. Just to “stick to the man” for no reason other than nanny-nanny-boo-boo.

If there was ever a remake I’m sure everyone would lose their minds again like with Ghostbusters. However a sequel could actually work.

You just come up with a new storyline for using time travel. It’s not like Marty Mcfly was the only one who could use the car.
just to make sure I'm hearing this correctly... you're upset because a movie you didn't like isn't being remade and you think a director sticking to his ideals and not just forking over his most personal property is "sticking it to the man?"

who is "the man" in this scenario? a hollywood executive who has no nerve or original ideas and just wants to put something in production regardless of quality so he can try and wring money out of nostalgia name value? I'd hate for someone involved in production to have to take the time to actually develop something worth making.

how dare the creators of the property not try to come up with some half-assed stories to steal people's money when the story they told has come to a full conclusion.

and this hasn't been said to I hate these lazy reporters who even bother ask the artists this question. it would be one thing if there was ambiguity. but the stance has been clear for such a long time.
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Old 07-17-2018, 10:32 PM   #43
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Good. I don't need a part 4 or a remake. I wish they could've prevented 2014's RoboCop, or even 2016's Ghostbusters.

However, Blade Runner 2049 was done right, IMO compared to the previous 2 examples.

If it did happen, it would need a good screenplay going with a great script, and most importantly, a good story to give actual reason to make another. Remaking it serves no purpose other than to garner money. However a part 4 would need a good reason. I could think of one: perhaps they could play on the whole "Jennifers seeing each other" where they both passed out, but also caused a rip in the space time continuum which needs fixing, due to all iterations of Hill Valley blending together, i.e. 2015 clock tower with 1885 scaffolding and 1955 cars driving around, like a mix/mash.

That's just an idea, but I am glad that this won't be touched for as long as Zemeckis is around.
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:36 AM   #44
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just to make sure I'm hearing this correctly... you're upset because a movie you didn't like isn't being remade and you think a director sticking to his ideals and not just forking over his most personal property is "sticking it to the man?"

who is "the man" in this scenario? a hollywood executive who has no nerve or original ideas and just wants to put something in production regardless of quality so he can try and wring money out of nostalgia name value? I'd hate for someone involved in production to have to take the time to actually develop something worth making.

how dare the creators of the property not try to come up with some half-assed stories to steal people's money when the story they told has come to a full conclusion.

and this hasn't been said to I hate these lazy reporters who even bother ask the artists this question. it would be one thing if there was ambiguity. but the stance has been clear for such a long time.
I never said I disliked them. I said I LIKED them but wasn’t as huge a fan as others. If you read my other posts I said he won’t even acknowledge a part 4 hypothetically. He shoots down even the very idea every time.

To me it comes off spiteful (maybe not the right word). Like he thinks he’s 1-upping the studio or something when they’re not even hounding him about it. It’s fans that keep asking.

Oh and he’d be the one in charge. How is that giving up his idea to someone who doesn’t care about quality?

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Old 07-18-2018, 06:41 AM   #45
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I never said I disliked them. I said I LIKED them but wasn’t as huge a fan as others. If you read my other posts I said he won’t even acknowledge a part 4 hypothetically. He shoots down even the very idea every time.

To me it comes off spiteful (maybe not the right word). Like he thinks he’s 1-upping the studio or something when they’re not even hounding him about it. It’s fans that keep asking.

Oh and he’d be the one in charge. How is that giving up his idea to someone who doesn’t care about quality?
Well, maybe you just answered your own question? Perhaps it is him just getting ornery about having to repeat himself over and over again to a bunch of annoying “reporters” when there isn’t even any pressure from anyone else?

I say “reporters” because real true fans of the franchise fully understand how perfectly rounded the trilogy stands as it is. The story was wrapped up in a very pleasing and satisfactory way. There is no need to explore anything more about it or the characters.

If someone wants to revisit BTTF, there is nothing stopping them from creating a time travel script using a different method of time travel with different characters. GET ORIGINAL AND CREATIVE WITH IT!
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Well, maybe you just answered your own question? Perhaps it is him just getting ornery about having to repeat himself over and over again to a bunch of annoying “reporters” when there isn’t even any pressure from anyone else?

I say “reporters” because real true fans of the franchise fully understand how perfectly rounded the trilogy stands as it is. The story was wrapped up in a very pleasing and satisfactory way. There is no need to explore anything more about it or the characters.

If someone wants to revisit BTTF, there is nothing stopping them from creating a time travel script using a different method of time travel with different characters. GET ORIGINAL AND CREATIVE WITH IT!
Ya that’s a better explanation. I still think a sequel could work though and I’m sure he’s had ideas about it before, at least to himself, about where it could go. It’s natural to wonder about supposed storylines.
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Old 07-18-2018, 08:12 AM   #47
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If only Spielberg and Lucas had felt the same about the Indiana Jones trilogy.

All credit to Bob and Bob for showing some rare integrity in Hollywood.
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Indiana Jones is more like a serial, it’s Spielberg’s 007. The Back to the Future trilogy is one big story.
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I never said I disliked them. I said I LIKED them but wasn’t as huge a fan as others. If you read my other posts I said he won’t even acknowledge a part 4 hypothetically. He shoots down even the very idea every time.

To me it comes off spiteful (maybe not the right word). Like he thinks he’s 1-upping the studio or something when they’re not even hounding him about it. It’s fans that keep asking.

Oh and he’d be the one in charge. How is that giving up his idea to someone who doesn’t care about quality?
but how could it be spiteful if he owns the property and he can decide what happens? if anything, you're being spiteful by pressing and saying that there should be a sequel when he always said no.

he really has to shoot it down, because the second he entertains even a glimmer, there will be a million articles that say "idea for back to the future sequel."

1-upping the studio? I don't even know to say. it's not like the studio is even asking for it. it's like you're trying to plant a false demand for a property.

if anything, I'm amazed and glad that the studio shows restraint. and they should. he made a ton of money for them.
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:57 AM   #50
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but how could it be spiteful if he owns the property and he can decide what happens? if anything, you're being spiteful by pressing and saying that there should be a sequel when he always said no.

he really has to shoot it down, because the second he entertains even a glimmer, there will be a million articles that say "idea for back to the future sequel."

1-upping the studio? I don't even know to say. it's not like the studio is even asking for it. it's like you're trying to plant a false demand for a property.

if anything, I'm amazed and glad that the studio shows restraint. and they should. he made a ton of money for them.
Like I said maybe spiteful is not the right word. I just wish he was more open to the possibility of a 4th movie the way Christopher Lloyd says he’d be open to play Doc Brown again. Just a simple what if/never say never.

I mean they’d even want the estate to stop it if they passed away. You don’t think that’s pretty extreme?
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It will get rebooted eventually, everything will. Casablanca, The Godfather, and Star Wars.

If the intention of the reboot is to just cash in on a recognized name without really understanding what made it good in the first place, then of course it will be bad. But I imagine there will be a few that turn out well.
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I don't think he's "spiteful", just insistent. I am sure he was asked at least once a week for 20 years, and he wants to make sure [their answer] is as publiclic as possible, so they can get on with their lives without getting asked about a sequel all the damned time lol
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Like I said maybe spiteful is not the right word. I just wish he was more open to the possibility of a 4th movie the way Christopher Lloyd says he’d be open to play Doc Brown again. Just a simple what if/never say never.

I mean they’d even want the estate to stop it if they passed away. You don’t think that’s pretty extreme?
No! The artists have finished their work, it is complete. It is their artistic right to dig their heels and deny anyone else to tamper, taint or try to redo it.
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2015 would have been a perfect year to have released a reboot of the first film.

It would be kind of cool/funny to have a teenager go back to 1985 and have the film make fun of things that back then were considered cool/rad.

Just trying to figure out what car would be the ideal vehicle to go back in time in.
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It will get rebooted eventually, everything will. Casablanca, The Godfather, and Star Wars.

If the intention of the reboot is to just cash in on a recognized name without really understanding what made it good in the first place, then of course it will be bad. But I imagine there will be a few that turn out well.
There wouldn't really be an audience for reboots of Casablanca and The Godfather lol but stuff like BTTF and SW, yeah.
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2015 would have been a perfect year to have released a reboot of the first film.

It would be kind of cool/funny to have a teenager go back to 1985 and have the film make fun of things that back then were considered cool/rad.

Just trying to figure out what car would be the ideal vehicle to go back in time in.
It wouldn't though. There's already been a recent mining of 80's nostalgia in movies so it wouldn't seem fresh or new at all. It would seem more like it was jumping on an 80's retro bandwagon.
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2015 would have been a perfect year to have released a reboot of the first film.

It would be kind of cool/funny to have a teenager go back to 1985 and have the film make fun of things that back then were considered cool/rad.

Just trying to figure out what car would be the ideal vehicle to go back in time in.

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I never said I disliked them. I said I LIKED them but wasn’t as huge a fan as others. If you read my other posts I said he won’t even acknowledge a part 4 hypothetically. He shoots down even the very idea every time.

I remember at some point several years back, reading something on bttf.com about how in the mid-to-late 90s, Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale were "kicking around" the idea of possibly returning to the franchise and making a 4th movie. But just shortly after they started casually talking about it with each other, Michael J. Fox went public about having Parkinson's Disease and was leaving Spin City, the TV show he was on at the time, because of it.

When they found that out, they scrapped the idea of ever doing another film because they wouldn't do it without Lloyd or MJF, and MJF was in no condition to do another one.


I will say to take this with a huge grain of salt. I am being honest about having read it to the best of my recollection, but I can't prove it. I didn't dream this, and it was an article/posting on the main page of the site in which Bob Gale mentioned this which I distinctly remember reading. But when I thought about it again later on and tried to find it, I couldn't. I've been unable to find that statement on that site or anywhere else since. I swear it's some kind of Mandela Effect scenario.




At any rate, whether they ever considered it at any time long in the past or not, I don't see why you are so bothered by them not discussing the possibility of a 4th movie now and shooting it down each time it is brought up. They clearly don't want to do one and prefer to stick with their artistic integrity, which is exceedingly rare these days. I don't really see what good them entertaining the notion of a 4th movie on even a hypothetical basis would do. It would likely only give fans and possibly the studio hopes that it will actually happen at some point. And if neither of them have any intention of ever letting it happen and were only having a hypothetical discussion for "fun," then why even say or do anything to potentially put that idea in people's heads?

They aren't pulling a "George Lucas" here by changing the films and refusing to ever release the original versions again (though I personally would love a version of the first movie released with the "To Be Continued..." restored at the end, which was added for the old home video releases, but I digress as it is a relatively minor issue, and technically isn't the original version). The trilogy, as-is, is readily available for anyone who wants to watch it. They just have no desire to add to it. Why is that so terrible?

There are plenty of other movies and franchises getting endless sequels, remakes, and otherwise just being milked to death at every possible turn. What does it really matter if this is one instance where that doesn't happen?

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