Sony may well regret its victory - Article by tool

[reiella]

Originally Posted by kali

Is he part of Microsoft's answer to Phase Hydra:-)

Did anyone ever learn the code word for Microsoft sending shills to forums?

"Here's your toshiba laptop with an hd-dvd and vista preinstalled to help you review/preview Vista features. Oh, you don't have to send us the laptop back by the way."

[eat_me_cool]

This is a duplicate thread

This is the qualifications of the author

Before becoming a journalist Sathnam (among other things) worked at a burger chain, a hospital laundry, a market research firm, a sewing factory and a literacy project in New York. Between 1998 and 2006 he was at the The Financial Times, where he (variously) worked as a news reporter in the UK and the US, specialised in writing about the media industries, worked across the paper as Chief Feature Writer, and wrote a weekly column.

[Sonny]

[dialog_gvf]

Where were the articles prior to Jan. 4, 2008 saying Toshiba should be concentrating on downloads?

It's amazing how the moment HD DVD looks out of the picture, all of the sudden Microsoft and a bunch of reporters start pushing the download angle.

Gary

[SDG]

Some of these sites are looking for Click Counts. Dont help them out. When you read their FUD, you are funding more FUD. You know it is a bunch of Crap. Dont even check it out.

[ezcobar411]

people that want digital download at this time obviously aren't thinking logically about the loss in the quality that will be experienced by movies. Digital download of hd movies is definitely years away

[CptGreedle]

people like this probably bought their first DVD player last year.
Seriously though, they seem to think that the prices will never drop and have probably never seen the market change for DVD...
Just even more FUD!

[Apollo 18]

Digital Downloads? Sure i have on ocasion watched a movie or tv show direct from the internet... But I don't want it as my primary source of watching movies. For exmaple, the Netflix streaming video option is fine for a B movie i'll watch on the computer screen, but when it comes to a movie i really like - i want it in High Definition and i don't want to lose my entire collection when my hard drive crashes. Do these people preaching the future of downloads think the movie companies are going to want people making "Back up copies" (perhaps on a friends hard drive) of their Hi Def downloads? No, of course not.

That being said, i won't mind if Toshiba and M$soft give up their obsession with HD Dud to pursue digital downloads.

[mikesoba]

If Sony lives to regret it, Toshiba must be living to regret it even more.

The FT week's round up in today's (Saturday, 12 Jan) edition repeated the story that:

"Paramount is poised to drop its support of HD DVD after Warner Brothers' backing of of Sony's Blu-ray technology, in a move that could sound the death knell of HD DVD and bring the format war to an end."

There was no backing out or correction of the story today.

Source: FT 12 January, printed publication, page 16

[xwingsct]

Originally Posted by izomax

That guy must have bought HD-DVD player over Christmas.

Suc*ks to be him, LOL.

You just took the words right out of my mouth.

[JAGUAR1977]

Following the format war so closely I've learned one thing, 'expert' journalists are out of touch with reality and behind the times.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Where were the articles prior to Jan. 4, 2008 saying Toshiba should be concentrating on downloads?

It's amazing how the moment HD DVD looks out of the picture, all of the sudden Microsoft and a bunch of reporters start pushing the download angle.

Gary

Admittantly, most of the articles I recall [and I'm too lazy to dig them up so n'yah, take my word or don't :P], were just commenting that the format war as a whole was prolly pointless with the future of digital downloads coming.

Originally Posted by JAGUAR1977

Following the format war so closely I've learned one thing, 'expert' journalists are out of touch with reality and behind the times.

I think there's an obvious reason for that, coupled with the advent of the blog-space journalism.

There's no accountability for most reporting. Only in certain fields, where the threat of litigation from the folks you're reporting about comes up is there any real accountability.

Sure, you make an ill informed story, loss some audience, but you replenish that audience with time [and gain more, as others mention, if it creates a buzz].

The editorializing of general pieces to present a consumable data byte/sound byte is more important for generating those advertising dollars [and creating buzz].

[aristotles]

Speaking of tools, check this guy out:
http://ilovehddvd.com/hd-dvd-war-blu...ng-live-hd-dvd

[chan1490]

He mentioned that Sony just stopped backing Betamax in 2002. Well, it wasn't that Sony kept on pushing for Betamax, it was because it was better quality and the studios preferred it over VHS for backup.

This guy's an idiot.

[chan1490]

Originally Posted by aristotles

Speaking of tools, check this guy out:
http://ilovehddvd.com/hd-dvd-war-blu...ng-live-hd-dvd

HAHAHHA- so basically a half-assed blu ray player is better than HD DVD....what an idiot.

[camper]

Originally Posted by MallardRider

Yes, sure, Sony will regret its victory - if everyone at home has T1 connections.
Digital downloads won't take off if the infrastructure is not there.

You'd need at least a T3, not a T1. And if you've got that much bandwith coming into the home, the TELCO's aren't going to be giving it to you so that you can dedicate all traffic to downloading a film that doesn't come from them. The true reason these companies (such as verizon) are working hard to broaden the pipe to the house is so they can push a TV service to compete with the cable and satellite companies. And they want to go the VOIP route too, as well as providing internet service.

Most proponents of digital downloads live in areas like Seattle, Boston, LA, or NYC where high speed access is available. They are also the same people who are 'stunned' that everyone doesn't just rely on public transportation such as busses and subways, without having the slightest inklilng that there are places within 200 miles of where they live that have only gotten electricity (and indoor plumbing) within the past 60 years.

The 'target audience' for rentals are generally people who cannot afford to buy the film in the first place, and these people tend to live in the outlying areas (where the jobs are scarce) where the TELCO companies are not willing to absorb the costs of bringing in fiber so that the rural populatation of 5,000 can download movies in a reasonable time. If they could even afford the $200 per month service charge the TELCO's would be expecting to get.

~Camper