The Frighteners (with new 4K scan) [Turbine] - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

Muyfa666 · 11-18-2022, 09:34 AM

Way to go Turbine!

Arrow have this planned, but Turbine usually hits it out of the park.

Their Hellraiser trilogy box was awesome. :-)

the13thman · 11-18-2022, 12:13 PM

The open-matte version is what instantly sold me on the set. I went for the classic artwork but was very tempted by the new art, I probably would have gone for it if it wasn't for the big smile on the cloaked figure.

All I ask is that there are no forced subtitles. Too many European releases these days include forced subtitles for on-screen text and signage when there's absolutely no reason to do that- all subtitles should be removeable.

b_scott · 11-18-2022, 01:31 PM

I don't really know the movie, I remember seeing it at one point and it being a huge flop. But I'm intrigued. Seems like a lot of care and discs. One thing that seems odd to me is not doing the open matte version in 4K. Why?

Muyfa666 · 11-18-2022, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the13thman

The open-matte version is what instantly sold me on the set. I went for the classic artwork but was very tempted by the new art, I probably would have gone for it if it wasn't for the big smile on the cloaked figure.

All I ask is that there are no forced subtitles. Too many European releases these days include forced subtitles for on-screen text and signage when there's absolutely no reason to do that- all subtitles should be removeable.

I went with the new boxart as the inner case have the classic art, but the movie is the main attraction and both look great.

Darmok1004 · 11-18-2022, 01:54 PM

Cover A for me.

TheHutt · 11-18-2022, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b_scott

I don't really know the movie, I remember seeing it at one point and it being a huge flop. But I'm intrigued. Seems like a lot of care and discs. One thing that seems odd to me is not doing the open matte version in 4K. Why?

'Cause it's just a bonus. The official format is 2.35:1.

b_scott · 11-18-2022, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHutt

'Cause it's just a bonus. The official format is 2.35:1.

why should a bonus be in a lesser format? just press the 4K.

True_Story1011 · 11-18-2022, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profondo

His most recent comments (whilst doing the PR run for They Shall Not Grow Old) mentioned that they're using the same techniques as that, and the results are looking amazing and much better than expected. Bad Taste he said was in worse condition as it lay under a bed back home for 20+ years and has terrible mold damage!

Do you happen to have the link in which he states this??

Mosin-Nagant · 11-19-2022, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muyfa666

I went with the new boxart as the inner case have the classic art

A little annoyed by this. I would have preferred that cover A also offers the classic artwork for the inner case... I'm sure they do this so that we are tempted to take both versions.

Muyfa666 · 11-20-2022, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosin-Nagant

A little annoyed by this. I would have preferred that cover A also offers the classic artwork for the inner case... I'm sure they do this so that we are tempted to take both versions.

Yes, but doesn't really matter in the end, the movie is the main attraction. :-)

veyron · 11-20-2022, 01:11 PM

Who cares about the movie, no slipcover no sale :-).
Someone will say, not me though, ordered original cover edition :-)

-JKR- · 11-21-2022, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHutt

Doesn't look this way.

Looks great, and (finally) blows the Universal transfer out of the water!!

Source: https://turbine-shop.de/32550/the-fr...lassic-artwork

the13thman · 11-22-2022, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosin-Nagant

A little annoyed by this. I would have preferred that cover A also offers the classic artwork for the inner case... I'm sure they do this so that we are tempted to take both versions.

I like the fact that you get both artworks, just pick your favourite as the main box and have the other in the inner case.

TheHutt · 11-23-2022, 08:31 AM

I think the main difference for the New Art motif could be that the Cover B capbox is printed on silver foil, and the Cover A digipak slipcase probably isn't.

TheHutt · 11-23-2022, 02:42 PM

German review (many sliders!):

https://blu-ray-rezensionen.net/the-...dition-4k-uhd/

b_scott · 11-23-2022, 02:53 PM

is this going to be released in the US on a regular single disc non-collector's edition? because I'd like to grab this but I can't justify $80.

TheHutt · 11-23-2022, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b_scott

is this going to be released in the US on a regular single disc non-collector's edition? because I'd like to grab this but I can't justify $80.

Well, at some point Arrow might give it a shot, if they get the transfer licensed and stuff...

DTSBOY · 11-23-2022, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHutt

German review (many sliders!):

https://blu-ray-rezensionen.net/the-...dition-4k-uhd/

Very cool, those slider comparisons. The colours, even on my lowly tablet are impressive on the '22 bluray. Good review whomever wrote it.

SwissHD · 11-24-2022, 11:54 AM

I can give you all some Details about the new Turbine Edition because i have received a review sample of it.

I love the Design of the set and the whole Artwork!
But lets get straight to the important technical facts!

Disclaimer:
I can only review the 4K Remastered 1080p Blu Ray from the set because i dont own a 4K Display. I have a 4K Player but because i dont have a proper display it would be nonsense to write about the UHD Discs.
Im sure andreasy969 will write something about it if he even buy the set.

Picture Quality 4K Remastered 1080p Blu Ray:

ITS NO DNR HELL! First and most important information!
So please everybody relax. LSP Medien did the work on it. Thats the same company which did the original Dune Movie in 4K.

They did fantastic work on Frighteners!
The first thing you notice is how natural the picture looks. All the sharpening shenanigans from the Universal Blu Ray are gone!
It now has a natural appereance and the picture is sharp and detailed.
The Colors are much fresher and richer than the Universal Release.
And it has a beautiful light grain structure that gives the picture an organic and filmic look.
I cant see any signs of DNR but im sure some armchair experts here will find flaws like always

For me it looks absoluteley natural and thats its biggest strength!
It blows the universal release out of the water!

But Pictures are saying more than words.
I did a comparison with the Universal Blu Ray.
The pics are done in JPG because i did such a big comparison. I always check that my jpgs look nothing different to the pngs of course.

https://slow.pics/c/LrEkjcTE

I think i dont need to comment that any further.

Sound Quality:

Theatrical Version:
The Theatrical Version comes with English 5.1 and English 2.0.
Guess they are the same as ever and it sounds good.
I only skipped through a little because the real version for me is the Directors Cut.

Directors Cut:
The real labor of love was spent for the Directors Cut.
There is a new Dolby Atmos Mix. I dont have atmos so i can only listen to the TrueHD Core in 5.1.
HOLY GUACAMOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

It sounds very aggressive and wonderful! I liked the 5.1 Audio for the Directors Cut on the 4-Disc DVD Set back then. That was the last time i saw the Directors Cut.
But this new Atmos Mix is way more powerful. Listen to the whole opening for example. The subwoofer has a lot of work to do and it is very dynamic

Or jump to the first cemetery scene with our Full Metal Jacket hero.

The moment he fires his big guns are the real deal! You feel like your home cinema will explode.

It also has a lot of split surround activity in that scene!
I could point out a lot more scenes.
The Frighteners Audio NEVER made so much fun. Its incredible!

For purists there is also the old English 5.1 Audio present and even the 2.0 Sound is there.
So everybody should be happy here!

Bonus:

The whole Laserdisc Making Of and Commentary is there which is very good already.
But Turbine did a complete new 95 Minute Documentary with new interviews. I didnt had the time to watch it completely but it seems very interesting.
On top of that you get the big book but thats only in german of course.

The Open Matte Version

This is a fascinating Bonus here. Frighteners was shot in Super 35 which is why an open matte version is possible.
What is really interesting here is that all Special Effects shots were produced Open Matte!
So to have this version as a Bonus is cool.

Overall i think i prefer the scope version. Sometimes there is too much dead space in the open matte version.
And in one screenshot i did (and it was coincidal) you can even see a bit of the dolly camera track at the bottom of the picture.
So its obvious that despite the open matte Special Effects Work it was composed for scope.
But as Bonus i think this is really cool anyway and doesnt hurt anybody.
And i will for sure watch that thing at least once.

The Open Matte Version is the Directors Cut and has the same Audio Tracks as the Scope DC Disc.

Here is a comparison between Scope and Open Matte:
https://slow.pics/c/aVZ62BK6

Picture 20 is the shot i mentioned with the Dolly Track

Pictures 16, 17, 19 and 21 are Effect Shots.

Overall verdict

I think the technical presentation is very good.
Picture Quality is fresh, natural and filmic.
The new Audio Mix is sensational.
And you also get a very nice designed Boxset plus a lot of Bonus Features.
So if somebody still doesnt like the release its fine because i have a lot of fun with it

gazza1975 · 11-27-2022, 10:54 AM

Pre=ordered this and then watched it on streaming - for some reason i thought i liked this movie but after watching again i realise its not worth spending 70 euros on - unfortunately when i log in there is no option to cancel order ? i replied to the email with the order but no response - does anyone think thats odd that turbine doesnt have a cancel option on orders through their website ???

11-18-2022, 09:34 AM	#41
Muyfa666 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jan 2013 Location:Sweden 4K collection:524 Blu-ray collection:882 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:5	Way to go Turbine! Arrow have this planned, but Turbine usually hits it out of the park. Their Hellraiser trilogy box was awesome. :-)

11-18-2022, 12:13 PM	#42
the13thman Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2015 Location:London, England 4K collection:149 Blu-ray collection:2914 DVD collection:35 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	The open-matte version is what instantly sold me on the set. I went for the classic artwork but was very tempted by the new art, I probably would have gone for it if it wasn't for the big smile on the cloaked figure. All I ask is that there are no forced subtitles. Too many European releases these days include forced subtitles for on-screen text and signage when there's absolutely no reason to do that- all subtitles should be removeable.

11-18-2022, 01:31 PM	#43
b_scott Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2009 4K collection:88 Blu-ray collection:133 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:12	I don't really know the movie, I remember seeing it at one point and it being a huge flop. But I'm intrigued. Seems like a lot of care and discs. One thing that seems odd to me is not doing the open matte version in 4K. Why?

11-18-2022, 01:54 PM	#45
Darmok1004 Expert Member Member since:Jul 2020 Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:1192 Blu-ray collection:1861 DVD collection:315 Digital collection:58 iTunes collection:1030	Cover A for me.

11-20-2022, 01:11 PM	#51
veyron Senior Member Member since:Mar 2014 4K collection:54 Blu-ray collection:55	Who cares about the movie, no slipcover no sale :-). Someone will say, not me though, ordered original cover edition :-)

11-23-2022, 08:31 AM	#54
TheHutt Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2010 Trading Score:1	I think the main difference for the New Art motif could be that the Cover B capbox is printed on silver foil, and the Cover A digipak slipcase probably isn't.

11-23-2022, 02:42 PM	#55
TheHutt Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2010 Trading Score:1	German review (many sliders!): https://blu-ray-rezensionen.net/the-...dition-4k-uhd/

11-23-2022, 02:53 PM	#56
b_scott Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2009 4K collection:88 Blu-ray collection:133 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:12	is this going to be released in the US on a regular single disc non-collector's edition? because I'd like to grab this but I can't justify $80.

11-24-2022, 11:54 AM	#59
SwissHD Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Switzerland Blu-ray reviews:1	I can give you all some Details about the new Turbine Edition because i have received a review sample of it. I love the Design of the set and the whole Artwork! But lets get straight to the important technical facts! Disclaimer: I can only review the 4K Remastered 1080p Blu Ray from the set because i dont own a 4K Display. I have a 4K Player but because i dont have a proper display it would be nonsense to write about the UHD Discs. Im sure andreasy969 will write something about it if he even buy the set. Picture Quality 4K Remastered 1080p Blu Ray: ITS NO DNR HELL! First and most important information! So please everybody relax. LSP Medien did the work on it. Thats the same company which did the original Dune Movie in 4K. They did fantastic work on Frighteners! The first thing you notice is how natural the picture looks. All the sharpening shenanigans from the Universal Blu Ray are gone! It now has a natural appereance and the picture is sharp and detailed. The Colors are much fresher and richer than the Universal Release. And it has a beautiful light grain structure that gives the picture an organic and filmic look. I cant see any signs of DNR but im sure some armchair experts here will find flaws like always For me it looks absoluteley natural and thats its biggest strength! It blows the universal release out of the water! But Pictures are saying more than words. I did a comparison with the Universal Blu Ray. The pics are done in JPG because i did such a big comparison. I always check that my jpgs look nothing different to the pngs of course. https://slow.pics/c/LrEkjcTE I think i dont need to comment that any further. Sound Quality: Theatrical Version: The Theatrical Version comes with English 5.1 and English 2.0. Guess they are the same as ever and it sounds good. I only skipped through a little because the real version for me is the Directors Cut. Directors Cut: The real labor of love was spent for the Directors Cut. There is a new Dolby Atmos Mix. I dont have atmos so i can only listen to the TrueHD Core in 5.1. HOLY GUACAMOLE!!!!!!!!!!!! It sounds very aggressive and wonderful! I liked the 5.1 Audio for the Directors Cut on the 4-Disc DVD Set back then. That was the last time i saw the Directors Cut. But this new Atmos Mix is way more powerful. Listen to the whole opening for example. The subwoofer has a lot of work to do and it is very dynamic Or jump to the first cemetery scene with our Full Metal Jacket hero. The moment he fires his big guns are the real deal! You feel like your home cinema will explode. It also has a lot of split surround activity in that scene! I could point out a lot more scenes. The Frighteners Audio NEVER made so much fun. Its incredible! For purists there is also the old English 5.1 Audio present and even the 2.0 Sound is there. So everybody should be happy here! Bonus: The whole Laserdisc Making Of and Commentary is there which is very good already. But Turbine did a complete new 95 Minute Documentary with new interviews. I didnt had the time to watch it completely but it seems very interesting. On top of that you get the big book but thats only in german of course. The Open Matte Version This is a fascinating Bonus here. Frighteners was shot in Super 35 which is why an open matte version is possible. What is really interesting here is that all Special Effects shots were produced Open Matte! So to have this version as a Bonus is cool. Overall i think i prefer the scope version. Sometimes there is too much dead space in the open matte version. And in one screenshot i did (and it was coincidal) you can even see a bit of the dolly camera track at the bottom of the picture. So its obvious that despite the open matte Special Effects Work it was composed for scope. But as Bonus i think this is really cool anyway and doesnt hurt anybody. And i will for sure watch that thing at least once. The Open Matte Version is the Directors Cut and has the same Audio Tracks as the Scope DC Disc. Here is a comparison between Scope and Open Matte: https://slow.pics/c/aVZ62BK6 Picture 20 is the shot i mentioned with the Dolly Track Pictures 16, 17, 19 and 21 are Effect Shots. Overall verdict I think the technical presentation is very good. Picture Quality is fresh, natural and filmic. The new Audio Mix is sensational. And you also get a very nice designed Boxset plus a lot of Bonus Features. So if somebody still doesnt like the release its fine because i have a lot of fun with it

11-27-2022, 10:54 AM	#60
gazza1975 Senior Member Member since:Mar 2009 Blu-ray reviews: 10	Pre=ordered this and then watched it on streaming - for some reason i thought i liked this movie but after watching again i realise its not worth spending 70 euros on - unfortunately when i log in there is no option to cancel order ? i replied to the email with the order but no response - does anyone think thats odd that turbine doesnt have a cancel option on orders through their website ???

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