Movie Scenes That Make No Logical Sense (Spoilers!)

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by ImBlu_DaBaDee

The Rise of Skywalker

When Rey stops at a random spot on a cliff and holds up an ancient Sith dagger to the horizon and its edges line up just so with a random chunk of the wreckage of the Death Star which appeared to be exploded into molecules a mere 30 years ago pointing the way to the Sith wayfinder in Palpatine’s office. Every single aspect of the preceding sentence broke my brain.

Originally Posted by Porco Azzurro

Why do you assume it's ancient?

You know, for some dumb reason I never realized that the dagger (or its inscription) was something recent. I also assumed it was ancient--it makes much more sense that it was made in a post-ROTJ timeline.

I'm just gonna blame Aquaman for recently using the same trope where characters use an ancient bottle to find the next hidden thing. And a similar thing was done with some of the Indy movies. And The Goonies. And even The Fountain. Maybe it's just so much of a cliche now that we see the same thing being used and we all assume it's always an ancient artifact that points the way in these movies.

[KRW1]

Star Wars - 'Hold your fire, no life forms aboard'.

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by KRW1

Star Wars - 'Hold your fire, no life forms aboard'.

[Bolty]

All I'm saying is aim one round at the b****** head and then go ahead and incinerate the eggs. But we all know the real reason she doesn't shoot the queen is because she and the Queen have to have a battle 10 minutes later. Which is also the same reason that the Dropship has an unusually large wheel well for the landing skid so that a gigantic alien can fit in there without being crushed.
And the one in Terminator always was a mistake she's trying to tell Silberman but she's been improved lately when one week ago she physically assaulted him.

[Bolty]

And the one from Star Wars... would it not have made more sense if they had said don't fire the princess may be aboard. --?
They wanted her alive correct?

[Falaskan]

Anakin killing younglins and every Jedi possible to “save Padme” was way too quick. His turn should’ve been spread out over the span of two movies.

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by Bolty

And the one from Star Wars... would it not have made more sense if they had said don't fire the princess may be aboard. --?
They wanted her alive correct?

They specifically said "There are no lifeforms onboard. It must have short-circuited." So they know the princess isn't even on it, and they assumed that it was just a glitch.

Also, their goal was to find the Death Star plans the rebels stole (transmissions from Scarif, passed by hand on a disk). If they happened to blow up an escape pod with people (even the princess) on it, it wouldn't have mattered much because the leak would be sealed--people die, supposedly the plans are destroyed with them. The gunners (and their micro-managing boss) were so focused on stopping people from escaping that they didn't account for droids or somebody just throwing the plans in an empty pod. They probably should have just shot it down all the same, but like it's said in Under Siege, "assumption is the mother of all f**k-ups!"


EDIT:
Line's from Under Siege 2

[CreasyBear]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

Anakin killing younglins and every Jedi possible to “save Padme” was way too quick. His turn should’ve been spread out over the span of two movies.

It was. Three, in fact.

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by CreasyBear

It was. Three, in fact.

Durp de duurrr...you know what I mean.

[Josep5349]

Originally Posted by TheSpruceMoose

Terminator 2- painful as it may be there are some details that don't line up in my favorite film. When Silberman is talking to his group about Sarah he mentions that she stabbed him the kneecap with his pen a few weeks ago. However, later in the interview room she explains that for the last 6 months she's shown improvement and he agrees. Something's missing.

I think it’s worth remembering that whilst Sarah was right about what was to come, she had also become quite unstable, to the point she wasn’t always thinking straight.

After they watch footage of a previous episode she says she’s better now, he agrees that her attitude has improved lately (as he puts his pen away in his pocket). She then says she needs a goal, and brings up that he had previously said if she showed improvement after six months he would transfer her to a min security wing and could have visitors. He just looks at her and says “I see“. Rather than challenge her on it at that point he questions her some more and when she thinks she might be getting through to him he concludes there hasn’t been improvement and her case will be reviewed in another six months (and she attacks him again). He wants to punish her, so he strings her along giving her hope, knowing that will only enrage her, giving him unequivocal grounds to keep holding her in max security wing.

So there’s two things going on here, she is actually somewhat unstable, and he’s a vindictive prick.

[Bolty]

And yet the stolen Death Star plans WERE aboard the possibly short-circuited Escape pod and if they had blasted it that would have been the end of the Rebellion. So once again are they paying by the laser?
The point being why not fire? And to my mind the only reason not to fire is if you want the princess alive and you think she might be a board.

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by Bolty

And yet the stolen Death Star plans WERE aboard the possibly short-circuited Escape pod and if they had blasted it that would have been the end of the Rebellion. So once again are they paying by the laser?
The point being why not fire?

That was my line of thinking exactly. They should have fired--plans would have been blown up all the same.

Originally Posted by Bolty

And to my mind the only reason not to fire is if you want the princess alive and you think she might be a board.

You're right--now that I think back on it, Vader did rant and rave that he wanted all the passengers alive, which is why they stunned Leia in the first place. So why have gunners targeting escape pods anyway?

Man, this scene makes my brain hurt even more.

[Bolty]

Who knows, Darth Vader probably Force choked to death the officer who decided not to waste a shot on the Escape pod. Maybe Lucas could go back and film that

And another thing, how does an escape pod leave the ship when it's being held in a tractor beam would the tractor beam not hold the Escape pod in its grip?

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by Bolty

Who knows, Darth Vader probably Force choked to death the officer who decided not to waste a shot on the Escape pod. Maybe Lucas could go back and film that

And another thing, how does an escape pod leave the ship when it's being held in a tractor beam would the tractor beam not hold the Escape pod in its grip?

Also why were the bay doors left open? If they were closed the escape pod would have went no where.

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by mwynn

Also why were the bay doors left open? If they were closed the escape pod would have went no where.

I didn't think the Star Destroyer bays have doors. In the OT they're always wide open. I can't find any source right now to says otherwise.

EDIT:
Well, maybe they do have doors. Did find this, not sure if it's canon though.

Originally Posted by TheForce.Net

Some star destroyer hangars seem to have a huge armoured shutter door which can be lowered to physically seal the entrance. These doors may be shut when a hangar is not in use or when dangerous combat conditions might jeopardise the integrity of the atmospheric shields.

[stvn1974]

All of these Star Wars questions are answered. You just have to read 6 novels, 3 resource books, 7 comic series and 5 young adult series to get them.

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

All of these Star Wars questions are answered. You just have to read 6 novels, 3 resource books, 7 comic series and 5 young adult series to get them.

Good point. I cracked open my Episode IV novelization to check that "hold your fire" scene. It reads like this:

Originally Posted by Alan Dean Foster

When word came over the communicators that the last pocket of resistance on the rebel ship had been cleaned out, the Captain of the Imperial cruiser relaxed considerably. He was listening with pleasure to the proceedings on the captured vessel when one of his chief gunnery officers called to him. Moving to the man's position, the Captain stared into the circular viewscreen and saw a tiny dot dropping away toward the fiery world below.

"There goes another pod, sir. Instructions?" The officer's hand hovered over a computerized energy battery.

Casually, confident in the firepower and total control under his command, the Captain studied the nearby readouts monitoring the pod. All of them read blank.

"Hold your fire, Lieutenant Hija. Instruments show no life forms aboard. The pod's release mechanism must have short-circuited or received a false instruction. Don't waste your power." He turned away, to listen with satisfaction to the reports of the captured men and material coming from the rebel ship.

Boom, there it is. The captain didn't want to waste power and was kind of a pompous d*ck.

[EvaDK]

Originally Posted by JJ Sefton

Aliens:

Ripley rescues Newt from being cocooned and is carrying her out when she discovers the lair of the Alien queen. Her and Newt are under a considerable time constraint, since the entire planet is going to be nuked within a few minutes, but Ripley takes the time to destroy the eggs and numerous Aliens, pissing off the queen who comes after them while they desperately run out. The question is, of course, why did Ripley bother to waste time and effort with her endeavors and making it much more perilous for her and Newt to get out, when she could have just gotten out without being pursued by the queen and made it on to the ship with time to spare, when the planet and the Aliens were going to be blown to kingdom come anyway? Makes no sense.

There's a reason for this: ALIEN was basically about Riply running away; ALIENS is about Ripley choosing to confront the source of her nightmares again. Therefore, she needs to overcome her instinct to run away again and instead attack the Alien hive and let out all her suppressed rage and fear.

To add, a first time audience thinks this scene is the finale of the film, they have no idea that the real final showdown is still some 5 minutes later in the film aboard the Sulaco, as the Queen sneaks aboard the dropship unseen. Cameron tricks you, thinking you've seen the ending, but you haven't.

[Bolty]

Yeah the people who write the novelizations often go back and clear up the illogical stuff from the screenplay.

[Bumblefeet]

Originally Posted by storythecorgi

Regarding Aliens:

What choice did Ripley have? The eggs were triggered by their presence and started opening up. Ripley knew if they had stayed still (hell, even run for that matter) that face huggers would be all over them. So she blew them up. Anyone with a brain would do the same.

Correction: anyone with a freakin' grenade launcher would do the same. 😆