Versus (2000) coming from Arrow

[pixote]

If you haven't been checking the UK forum, all the colored filters are gone from the Arrow edition of Versus. I guess it depends if you care about them or not, but none the less there's a lot of discussion about it in the UK thread

[Kakihara]

Originally Posted by pixote

If you haven't been checking the UK forum, all the colored filters are gone from the Arrow edition of Versus. I guess it depends if you care about them or not, but none the less there's a lot of discussion about it in the UK thread

Thanks for the heads up. I do care and it's such a bummer. Will probably cancel my order now.

[KUNG FU BOB]

Originally Posted by pixote

If you haven't been checking the UK forum, all the colored filters are gone from the Arrow edition of Versus. I guess it depends if you care about them or not, but none the less there's a lot of discussion about it in the UK thread

Which "UK forum"?

I can't believe it. None of the filters?! So all the creepy blue lighting that makes the forest seem otherworldly is not there? I've seen this film so many times over the years, including in the theater, and the color schemes are such an important part of the film's mood. I'm shocked this could happen. Up until recently I had no idea these types of filters were not a part of the original film elements and that they had to be added by the companies doing home video releases. I heard about it because some "night-time" filters were missing from a scene or two in some Hong Kong films. That's bad enough, but missing from an entire film?! How on Earth was this overlooked?

[broly965]

Originally Posted by KUNG FU BOB

Which "UK forum"?

I can't believe it. None of the filters?! So all the creepy blue lighting that makes the forest seem otherworldly is not there? I've seen this film so many times over the years, including in the theater, and the color schemes are such an important part of the film's mood. I'm shocked this could happen. Up until recently I had no idea these types of filters were not a part of the original film elements and that they had to be added by the companies doing home video releases. I heard about it because some "night-time" filters were missing from a scene or two in some Hong Kong films. That's bad enough, but missing from an entire film?! How on Earth was this overlooked?

Indeed the blue and yellow filters are gone. If you watch the ultimate cut they are there a little due to the added footage still having it. I imagine the theatrical cut though won't have it at all. Haven't watched the theatrical version yet.

[Kakihara]

Originally Posted by KUNG FU BOB

Which "UK forum"?

I can't believe it. None of the filters?! So all the creepy blue lighting that makes the forest seem otherworldly is not there? I've seen this film so many times over the years, including in the theater, and the color schemes are such an important part of the film's mood. I'm shocked this could happen. Up until recently I had no idea these types of filters were not a part of the original film elements and that they had to be added by the companies doing home video releases. I heard about it because some "night-time" filters were missing from a scene or two in some Hong Kong films. That's bad enough, but missing from an entire film?! How on Earth was this overlooked?

Agreed. I cancelled my order. Bummer.

[dickdarlington]

Just got an email from Amazon with the new shipping dates:

New estimated delivery date:
Saturday, December 19, 2020 - Sunday, December 20, 2020

I need to stop pre-ordering discs from Amazon. No shipping notice on Cinema Paradiso in 4K either yet.

[Socko]

Originally Posted by dickdarlington

Just got an email from Amazon with the new shipping dates:

New estimated delivery date:
Saturday, December 19, 2020 - Sunday, December 20, 2020

I need to stop pre-ordering discs from Amazon. No shipping notice on Cinema Paradiso in 4K either yet.

My diabolikdvd order was shipped yesterday, along with Mallrats and Tremors 4k

[DukeTogo84]

I highly suggest ordering your Arrow films from Bullmoose. Cheaper than Amazon, no tax, and you actually get the films a few days before release date. You just have to order over $35 to get free shipping. If anything just throw in a pre-order for another title in there and you're good.

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

I highly suggest ordering your Arrow films from Bullmoose. Cheaper than Amazon, no tax, and you actually get the films a few days before release date. You just have to order over $35 to get free shipping. If anything just throw in a pre-order for another title in there and you're good.

What carrier do they use for shipping? USPS? (Lately I've been having bad luck with USPS sent stuff)

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by professorwho

What carrier do they use for shipping? USPS? (Lately I've been having bad luck with USPS sent stuff)

It is USPS. However, every single time they ship out to me it's 2 Day Priority. I always chose the free shipping and it still comes 2 Day.

[King_Ghidorah]

Couldn't agree more with "DukeTogo84". I have been switching most of my orders over to Bullmoose. Today I received Versus and Cinema Paradiso 4K from them. Packaged in cardboard box with bubble wrap to insure no damage.

[Mr. Chaverria]

Originally Posted by King_Ghidorah

Couldn't agree more with "DukeTogo84". I have been switching most of my orders over to Bullmoose. Today I received Versus and Cinema Paradiso 4K from them. Packaged in cardboard box with bubble wrap to insure no damage.

Could I be educated on Bullmoose? What's their history and quality of work?

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by Mr. Chaverria

Could I be educated on Bullmoose? What's their history and quality of work?

No idea about their history, but their quality of their work is top notch. I've never had to return anything due to damage or wrong items sent. No lost packages either. They also ship early. Next week releases already shipped and I should have them Friday.

[broly965]

This is unavailable on amazon now. I need a replacement too for my damaged case and now i have to wait till they get some more in stock.

[Snake2410]

Question is how big is the print run for the extras? If I don't get the extras that the first print comes with then it's not really worth me keeping the order. What's the point in pre-ordering if it's not going to be a first run copy. Guess I'll be sending it back to Amazon if that's the case.

[Xerozen]

Ordered mine in September through DiabolikDVD and got it on 12/7/2020. Only 24.99 when I ordered. One of my Top 10 movies- easily.

[professorwho]

Ordered mine in September from Diabolik as well, shipped on the 1st of December, but now it's stuck in USPS hell. Detroit is really backed up, it seems. Can't fault Diabolik at all, they shipped it out early.

[GojiraXDAN]

Was having the same problems with amazon as a few users here were stating so I called a really great record store that carries arrow video blu-rays and they had it! So I canceled my order on amazon and went there and got it.

And the transfer does look very good but i can confirm that the color filters for the scenes that had them are indeed gone. It didn't really ruin my enjoyment of the film overall but it did take some getting use to since I'm so used to the way those scenes looked on earlier home-video versions. Makes me wonder if that was the director's decision for this new remastered version or an oversight? can't imagine it would be that difficult to add a filter? Oh well, gives me a reason to hold onto my old Blu-ray.

Also for those wondering about how Ultimate Versus looks, it's a combination of the HD Remastered footage and for the 'new"/revised footage it's upscaled SD Footage since i believe the new footage was shot that way which unfortunately makes the ultimate version look rather inconsistant as a whole. But what can you do there if thats the limitation of the source.

[Sector Drone]

I ordered mine through Bull Moose. I had enough points to get it at 50% off. I got sent an email on 12/5 that it was being prepared to ship. It didn't actually arrive at USPS until 12/9. I'll be lucky to have it by Friday and I live one state away from where they ship. I guess it's the price I pay for getting it at $12.99.

[broly965]

Watched me copy of versus today and really enjoyed it. Haven't ever seen this look good since i've always had the dvd and it was so soft looking. Watched the ultimate cut to see how the added footage looked on blu, was pleased with it. Though i couldn't tell if the added scenes ran at a different frame rate or something, as they seemed to be in slow motion or something. I also noticed a few times certain ultimate cut scenes had the filters. It really was different not seeing them on this version. I feel like they added a certain added mystery or extra level of atmosphere to the forest. Still happy to have this though. Only paid 10$ thanks to amazon credit.