Basic Instinct 4K UHD (1992)

[Gunsnroses092789]

Originally Posted by Bourne1886

So what’s the point of certificates on films then? I’m not saying kids aren’t different from one to another but there is a reason for films to be certificated. It’s to protect them and I’m not sure liberal parenting is for the best. Kids need rules and boundaries. It helps them learn and develop. I don’t care how good parents are at explaining nudity and violence, the certificate is there for a reason. As a parent it’s your job to protect minors and not show them any films which might effect them psychologically. I don’t agree.

Do you agree with every law that's put into place? Probably not. Nobody does.

The certification or MPAA is just a group of people who decide what is deemed appropriate or inappropriate for certain ages... But even that is meant as a guideline. You can still bring a 5-year-old into an R-rated movie if you're their parent or guardian. If it wasn't just a guideline, they would have made it strict rules/law that denies access to children, despite what their parents believed.

Again, not one-size-fits-all for children, hence the guidelines, not strict law. They make the suggestion, the parents make the decision.

And thanks for being another judging, close-minded criticizer, as opposed to accepting that different strokes are for different folks.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Bourne1886

So what’s the point of certificates on films then? I’m not saying kids aren’t different from one to another but there is a reason for films to be certificated. It’s to protect them and I’m not sure liberal parenting is for the best. Kids need rules and boundaries. It helps them learn and develop. I don’t care how good parents are at explaining nudity and violence, the certificate is there for a reason. As a parent it’s your job to protect minors and not show them any films which might effect them psychologically. I don’t agree.

Well said. This was what I was trying to convey.

As long as we don't show Basic Extinct to kids it's okay lol but Studio Canal is there to make it Lego Instinct as someone said earlier in this thread.

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by Gunsnroses092789

Do you agree with every law that's put into place? Probably not. Nobody does.

The certification or MPAA is just a group of people who decide what is deemed appropriate or inappropriate for certain ages... But even that is meant as a guideline. You can still bring a 5-year-old into an R-rated movie if you're their parent or guardian. If it wasn't just a guideline, they would have made it strict rules/law that denies access to children, despite what their parents believed.

Again, not one-size-fits-all for children, hence the guidelines, not strict law. They make the suggestion, the parents make the decision.

And thanks for being another judging, close-minded criticizer, as opposed to accepting that different strokes are for different folks.

The U.K is different and I never said that different strokes for different folks wasn’t a thing, I just don’t agree with it. I never took my 5 year to see an ‘r’ rated film, not that they'd let you into the cinema here anyway as the BBFC rating thing is different. You’re welcome! I might not like every law but I abide by them!

[buck135]

This film features a man getting an ice pick through the eye and a brutal rape scene but a someone is bent out of shape that some guys parents let him see nudity 30 years ago? We live in strange times.

[meremortal]

Sigh. Another movie I've owned on dvd and blu but don't think I've seen in full yet.

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by buck135

This film features a man getting an ice pick through the eye and a brutal rape scene but a someone is bent out of shape that some guys parents let him see nudity 30 years ago? We live in strange times.

Well I’m not bent out of shape. I’m a parent just disagreeing with liberal parenting. You can’t show a minor a film like Basic Instinct with nudity,rape and violence! The certificate is there for a reason.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by buck135

This film features a man getting an ice pick through the eye and a brutal rape scene but a someone is bent out of shape that some guys parents let him see nudity 30 years ago? We live in strange times.

Basic Instinct is not appropriate for a child to see period. I would feel embarrass, ashamed and less of a parent if I let my child, or even somebody else's child to see it. It's a movie for adults, not kids. Do you think a elementary school would show a movie like Basic Instinct in a classroom full of children? Hell no, so why are some parents allowing their kids to see it at home.

[buck135]

Originally Posted by Bourne1886

Well I’m not bent out of shape. I’m a parent just disagreeing with liberal parenting. You can’t show a minor a film like Basic Instinct with nudity,rape and violence! The certificate is there for a reason.

I wasn't referring to you at all. You made excellent points.

[jmcecil]

Originally Posted by Bourne1886

So what’s the point of certificates on films then? I’m not saying kids aren’t different from one to another but there is a reason for films to be certificated. It’s to protect them and I’m not sure liberal parenting is for the best. Kids need rules and boundaries. It helps them learn and develop. I don’t care how good parents are at explaining nudity and violence, the certificate is there for a reason. As a parent it’s your job to protect minors and not show them any films which might effect them psychologically. I don’t agree.

Certificates are there to let parents know. Then they can make a decision. Liberal parenting will help kids integrate with their peers far better than trying to hide them from the world. Better to be on hand than to just have it done behind your back.

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by buck135

I wasn't referring to you at all. You made excellent points.

Thankyou.

[Nothing371]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Basic Instinct is not appropriate for a child to see period. I would feel embarrass, ashamed and less of a parent if I let my child, or even somebody else's child to see it. It's a movie for adults, not kids!

let's just hope they don't turn out to be internet contrarians.

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by jmcecil

Certificates are there to let parents know. Then they can make a decision. Liberal parenting will help kids integrate with their peers far better than trying to hide them from the world. Better to be on hand than to just have it done behind your back.

Like I said before BBFC certification is much different to MPAA ratings. They are there for a reason in the U.K. Even with me present I would have never shown my kids Basic Instinct or any other graphically violent film. Liberal parenting doesn’t necessarily help them integrate far better with their peers. You can educate them without showing them graphic violence etc and they can still grow up to be grounded and sensible respectful adults and be aware of what the world is like.

[Gunsnroses092789]

Originally Posted by Bourne1886

Like I said before BBFC certification is much different to MPAA ratings. They are there for a reason in the U.K. Even with me present I would have never shown my kids Basic Instinct or any other graphically violent film. Liberal parenting doesn’t necessarily help them integrate far better with their peers. You can educate them without showing them graphic violence etc and they can still grow up to be grounded and sensible respectful adults and be aware of what the world is like.

Well, your simply labeling these people "liberal" parents is not really sensible or respectful adult talk, let alone uninformed. I've known conservative parents, as well as "liberal" parents who have not been strict with their children's viewing habits. And I've known "liberal" parents who don't allow their children to watch films meant for more mature audiences...

[Monterey Jack]

When mainstream movies stopped having sex in them, it was the beginning of the entire country going to shit.

[Kyle15]

I know people who tout how "liberal" they are but their actual ideas concerning aesthetics and all these things re; fiction is akin to a hyper conservative grandma having a satanic panic attack in the 80s over metal music.

Labels are useless, and it's fun to point that out.

[Markgway]

I too was 13 when I first saw Basic Instinct on a VHS rental (aah, those were the days...).

Funnily enough it wasn't the sex that shocked me (already saw a bunch of that on those German satellite channels ) it was the ice pick thru the nose at the beginning!

But yeah, Basic Instinct was the first time I remember "playing with myself."

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by Markgway

I too was 13 when I first saw Basic Instinct on a VHS rental (aah, those were the days...).

Funnily enough it wasn't the sex that shocked me (already saw a bunch of that on those German satellite channels ) it was the ice pick thru the nose at the beginning!

But yeah, Basic Instinct was the first time I remember "playing with myself."

Exactly. Even now, when I think of this film, the first image I see is Johnny Boz getting nailed with that ice pick over and over and the close up of it going into his face.

The other thing I think of is the rape or near-rape (I don't remember the tone) of Jeanne Tripplehorn by

[Show spoiler]Michael Douglas

. There is absolutely no way you could have a scene like that in a Hollywood film today, where

[Show spoiler]the hero

engages in a highly sexualized domination of a woman, tearing her panties off and forcefully entering her from behind, and then doesn't suffer any consequences for that act.

For all the brouhaha in the Blu-ray thread about Sharon Stone's leg uncrossing scene, it's interesting that people rarely, if ever, talk about Jeanne Tripplehorn's sex scene in the film, which is about as graphic as anything Sharon Stone was asked to do.

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by Gunsnroses092789

Well, your simply labeling these people "liberal" parents is not really sensible or respectful adult talk, let alone uninformed. I've known conservative parents, as well as "liberal" parents who have not been strict with their children's viewing habits. And I've known "liberal" parents who don't allow their children to watch films meant for more mature audiences...

Look you have your ways and I have mine. Other parents have theirs! It’s not uninformed to have an opinion based on experience. It is liberal, no other way to describe it. You do get offended quick don’t you! Let’s just leave it there. Agree to disagree and move on. No point going round in circles about it.

[Mosin-Nagant]

Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

When mainstream movies stopped having sex in them, it was the beginning of the entire country going to shit.

I'm not American but there is some truth in what you say...

[JackForrester]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

For all the brouhaha in the Blu-ray thread about Sharon Stone's leg uncrossing scene, it's interesting that people rarely, if ever, talk about Jeanne Tripplehorn's sex scene in the film, which is about as graphic as anything Sharon Stone was asked to do.

I think that's because Tripplehorn never tried to change her image saying the director tricked her into making that scene.