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Old 06-12-2023, 10:31 PM   #1
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Definitely see it in 3D.

Starts off mild from the opening logos, but it got better from the DB logo. The first scene is high medium, to strong with
[Show spoiler]Unicron's introduction
.The rest of the movie has a fair balance of medium, high medium and some strong depth. Pop-outs include maybe some embers coming close to edging the screen.
I just got home from seeing it. And I can say this was pretty much my experience as well. That opening with
[Show spoiler]Unicron really looked great in 3D and had me pumped. I'm pretty sure I kept hearing his theme from the Animated movie playing subtly.
. Strongest depth moments were at the start of the film and the ending sequences. Some nice pop out moments with embers and clouds happening throughout.

Overall I liked Bumblebee more, but this one was fun. Still a lot of room for improvement.
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Liked it although is was a bit too woke for my liking
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Old 06-09-2023, 12:18 PM   #3
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Liked it although is was a bit too woke for my liking
What in the world was "woke" about Transformers? I can't think of anything unless it's because it supports transformer rights?

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Considering I was recently banned for ‘politics’ (as in calling out someone else for threadcrapping with their politics) I’d love it if that rule was actually enforced across the board. It seems like (as I’ve seen complained about on Reddit by younger home media enthusiasts that don’t even bother with this site) this site leans older and a lot of the mods lean conservative so the actual ‘politics’ that are not allowed to be discussed is anything not conservative. People are free to thread crap all day long dropping in brain dead political buzzwords like ‘woke’, lowering the IQ of myriad threads, and they’ll never see even a glint of the banhammer. I’m over it. This is a hobby site and I’d love to not have to be faced dead on with the effects of propaganda and the vast dumbing down of society when I try and discuss my hobbies, hobbies being an escapism from that sort of nonsense for most people.

Regardless of where your political affiliations lie, I’m sure most people with a brain can agree it’s much better to not have politics constantly brought up, especially as a criticism for a movie, in a forum for stereoscopic movies. Imagine yelling ‘hurrrr tHiS iS wOkE’ in the middle of a cinema screening. Doing it here is basically just as obnoxious and cringeworthy. Nobody wants to hear your garbage political takes. We’re here for the movies.
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Old 06-09-2023, 06:39 PM   #5
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Considering I was recently banned for ‘politics’ (as in calling out someone else for threadcrapping with their politics) I’d love it if that rule was actually enforced across the board. It seems like (as I’ve seen complained about on Reddit by younger home media enthusiasts that don’t even bother with this site) this site leans older and a lot of the mods lean conservative so the actual ‘politics’ that are not allowed to be discussed is anything not conservative. People are free to thread crap all day long dropping in brain dead political buzzwords like ‘woke’, lowering the IQ of myriad threads, and they’ll never see even a glint of the banhammer. I’m over it. This is a hobby site and I’d love to not have to be faced dead on with the effects of propaganda and the vast dumbing down of society when I try and discuss my hobbies, hobbies being an escapism from that sort of nonsense for most people.

Regardless of where your political affiliations lie, I’m sure most people with a brain can agree it’s much better to not have politics constantly brought up, especially as a criticism for a movie, in a forum for stereoscopic movies. Imagine yelling ‘hurrrr tHiS iS wOkE’ in the middle of a cinema screening. Doing it here is basically just as obnoxious and cringeworthy. Nobody wants to hear your garbage political takes. We’re here for the movies.
When you put it that way, it occurs to me that films themselves come close to doing this. Avatar 2 slaps the viewer with its message about whaling, but then there's Across the Spiderverse, which was packed with present-day political slogans and had characters shout out politically charged statements apropos of nothing. I enjoyed the film and laughed at those lines, but still, the film "started the conversation" about politics so discussing it inevitably comes up in discussing the film.

Especially funny was the irony of the film bashing capitalism, explicitly and by name, when it's expected to make megabucks.

Long story short, if filmmakers stop putting blatant politics into their films then folks won't be talking about politics in the film. It's probably best to do that anyhow as real-world politics can age like milk and really date a film.
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Long story short, if filmmakers stop putting blatant politics into their films then folks won't be talking about politics in the film. It's probably best to do that anyhow as real-world politics can age like milk and really date a film.
Sure, but we're in a thread about Transformers, which has none of this. At least, that I can recall, which is why I took the possible-bait and asked. There was a joke where someone was called racist for assuming a Transformer that had an accent could speak Spanish, but it was ajoke and the character even said something like "I don't see how that's racist...."

When I know what someone could be talking about, I would just ignore it, but in this particular case it's like.... Transformers? Or I can't remember. Climate change? No, not really.... Not unless someone saw Unicron as a metaphor for climate change with climate change being "planet devouring"? I have no idea. The idea that people and Transformers have to work together to solve problems?

I have a guess, but I don't even feel like putting it out there. And I hope that guess is wrong.

Oh - I think I popped into this thread mainly because I wasn't super impressed with the 3D. Then got distracted. It was OK, but I don't know if it was really a must-see in 3D. I thought Guardians 3 was a bit better.
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Old 06-09-2023, 08:04 PM   #7
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Sure, but we're in a thread about Transformers, which has none of this. At least, that I can recall, which is why I took the possible-bait and asked. There was a joke where someone was called racist for assuming a Transformer that had an accent could speak Spanish, but it was ajoke and the character even said something like "I don't see how that's racist...."

When I know what someone could be talking about, I would just ignore it, but in this particular case it's like.... Transformers? Or I can't remember. Climate change? No, not really.... Not unless someone saw Unicron as a metaphor for climate change with climate change being "planet devouring"? I have no idea. The idea that people and Transformers have to work together to solve problems?

I have a guess, but I don't even feel like putting it out there. And I hope that guess is wrong.

Oh - I think I popped into this thread mainly because I wasn't super impressed with the 3D. Then got distracted. It was OK, but I don't know if it was really a must-see in 3D. I thought Guardians 3 was a bit better.
No dumb-fun corny quips in Transformers along the lines of:
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*characters stare into black hole*

"What's that?"
"It's a metaphor for capitalism"
"No, it's way worse than that!"


Admittedly I haven't seen the Wahlberg transformers flicks in a while but the popular YouTube movie parody series about for them claim that they had some political quips in them.

If only there were a way to get the 3D in films to be taken up a notch or three. Why can't a big dumb fun film about a robot gorilla and a robot truck working with a robot car to punch other robots in the face have big fun 3D?
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Considering I was recently banned for ‘politics’ (as in calling out someone else for threadcrapping with their politics) I’d love it if that rule was actually enforced across the board. It seems like (as I’ve seen complained about on Reddit by younger home media enthusiasts that don’t even bother with this site) this site leans older and a lot of the mods lean conservative so the actual ‘politics’ that are not allowed to be discussed is anything not conservative. People are free to thread crap all day long dropping in brain dead political buzzwords like ‘woke’, lowering the IQ of myriad threads, and they’ll never see even a glint of the banhammer. I’m over it. This is a hobby site and I’d love to not have to be faced dead on with the effects of propaganda and the vast dumbing down of society when I try and discuss my hobbies, hobbies being an escapism from that sort of nonsense for most people.

Regardless of where your political affiliations lie, I’m sure most people with a brain can agree it’s much better to not have politics constantly brought up, especially as a criticism for a movie, in a forum for stereoscopic movies. Imagine yelling ‘hurrrr tHiS iS wOkE’ in the middle of a cinema screening. Doing it here is basically just as obnoxious and cringeworthy. Nobody wants to hear your garbage political takes. We’re here for the movies.
And you honestly don’t think you revealed your “politics” with that annoying rant?

This is the TF RofB 3D thread…please refrain from doing this again…

Meanwhile, I’m hopeful that Avatar 2’s 3D bluray sales will have a positive impact on the chances of a 3d blu release of this….
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Meanwhile, I’m hopeful that Avatar 2’s 3D bluray sales will have a positive impact on the chances of a 3d blu release of this….
Sorry to dash those hopes but pre-orders are already live and there's no 3D Blu-ray.
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Sorry to dash those hopes but pre-orders are already live and there's no 3D Blu-ray.
Yes, but my point was that the Avatar 2 3d Blu-ray sales might potentially cause them to reconsider…clearly the A2 3d sales have yet to be tabulated so not sure it could influence their decision just yet….yes, it’s a long shot—I know…
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And you honestly don’t think you revealed your “politics” with that annoying rant?

This is the TF RofB 3D thread…please refrain from doing this again…

Meanwhile, I’m hopeful that Avatar 2’s 3D bluray sales will have a positive impact on the chances of a 3d blu release of this….
I’m glad some part of your withered brain understands the point I was making
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“Withered brain”…? You must enjoy getting banned…
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I’m glad some part of your withered brain understands the point I was making
They really do just crawl out of the woodwork. Old Freakydrawers is an instant candidate for the Ignore button.

I’m disheartened by the fact that this isn’t coming out on 3D Blu, but not remotely surprised. Hopefully it will, oh, I don’t know, maybe end up on some sort of Russian streaming site someday, and maybe some kind wonderful soul will take it upon their talented selves to rescue it…
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Considering I was recently banned for ‘politics’ (as in calling out someone else for threadcrapping with their politics) I’d love it if that rule was actually enforced across the board. It seems like (as I’ve seen complained about on Reddit by younger home media enthusiasts that don’t even bother with this site) this site leans older and a lot of the mods lean conservative so the actual ‘politics’ that are not allowed to be discussed is anything not conservative. People are free to thread crap all day long dropping in brain dead political buzzwords like ‘woke’, lowering the IQ of myriad threads, and they’ll never see even a glint of the banhammer. I’m over it. This is a hobby site and I’d love to not have to be faced dead on with the effects of propaganda and the vast dumbing down of society when I try and discuss my hobbies, hobbies being an escapism from that sort of nonsense for most people.

Regardless of where your political affiliations lie, I’m sure most people with a brain can agree it’s much better to not have politics constantly brought up, especially as a criticism for a movie, in a forum for stereoscopic movies. Imagine yelling ‘hurrrr tHiS iS wOkE’ in the middle of a cinema screening. Doing it here is basically just as obnoxious and cringeworthy. Nobody wants to hear your garbage political takes. We’re here for the movies.
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Old 06-09-2023, 08:09 PM   #15
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Saw this in Imax 3D.

What was a little strange was that before the opening credits, they had a disclaimer to say that the film had not been specially formatted for Imax presentation. I've never seen anything like that before. It was like Imax were washing their hands of it.

In spite of this, it really was an excellent 3D presentation, with multiple pop-outs, and a strong sense of volume and depth even in quiet scenes. It also made excellent use of the Imax sound system which felt truly immense, and was particularly useful in conveying the planetary scale of Unicron.

I thought it had one of the most promising setups of any of these films. The human characters are well integrated into the storyline. They also seemed to have more robot characters than previous movies, but they all had distinct designs which avoided confusion.

I don't know if it's a good or a bad film or what kind of critical reaction it's getting. I thought it started strong and ended strong, but in the middle it felt like something wasn't quite clicking. Some of the plot developments were perhaps a bit convenient, a lot was far-fetched. I'm not convinced that should be considered a fatal flaw in a film of this nature. On the whole I found it a lot better than expected, if a mixed bag. It's more of a B-movie than previous entries in the series. No star actors or director, no ILM. I don't think they even went with one of the established 3D conversion houses. The visual effects did the job, but suffered at times. The cargo plane transformer might be the single worst case of unconvincing CGI in the series.

The cinema I saw it in had some really young and inexperienced staff on duty, and I had to correct the girl who'd given me a pair of Real D glasses, instead of the linear polarized Imax glasses required. Luckily I got to the screen before they'd dimmed the lights, because the people sitting next to me had also been given the wrong glasses. Before the screening started I must've sent somewhere between 10 and 20 people down to get their glasses changed. I hate doing this, I'm not that sort of outgoing person to go up to strangers like that. Not the first time it's happened either. Considering the cost of Imax tickets, that's just not good enough. It would really ruin the screening, and that doesn't help the case for 3D either.

But the 3D was definitely worth it. There was a nicely executed popout when one of the trucks fired a missile, and there was an effective-in-3D scene where Optimus Prime picks up the main human protagonist. Prime looked believably massive. Definitely no miniaturisation effect there. I had a visceral reaction in another scene when one of the antagonist bots swung a ball on a chain weapon towards the screen. There may have been a minor conversion error in one scene where light reflections on a Porshe ended up looking like scrapes but it didn't really matter. 3D was a major enhancement to the film in every way. I haven't seen the other films in years so it's hard to judge, but I felt it might be some of the best 3D of the series. It's 3D with impact.
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I saw this today and was disappointed with the 3D. Perhaps since I didn't see it on an Imax screen. Very few images popped and there wasn't much depth in almost any of the scenes.

The movie itself delivered with the effects. I would have enjoyed it more had there not been any people in it. For those that leave as soon as the credits start, stick around as there is a good cutscene.
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I saw this today and was disappointed with the 3D. Perhaps since I didn't see it on an Imax screen. Very few images popped and there wasn't much depth in almost any of the scenes.

The movie itself delivered with the effects. I would have enjoyed it more had there not been any people in it. For those that leave as soon as the credits start, stick around as there is a good cutscene.
Thanks. I also wouldn't mind no humans in my giant robot flicks.

IMHO if the 3D only works at IMAX then it isn't strong enough.
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Definitely see it in 3D.

Starts off mild from the opening logos, but it got better from the DB logo. The first scene is high medium, to strong with
[Show spoiler]Unicron's introduction
.The rest of the movie has a fair balance of medium, high medium and some strong depth. Pop-outs include maybe some embers coming close to edging the screen.
That sounds hopeful, thanks Creed. Glad you liked the 3D.

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Saw this in Imax 3D.

What was a little strange was that before the opening credits, they had a disclaimer to say that the film had not been specially formatted for Imax presentation. I've never seen anything like that before. It was like Imax were washing their hands of it.

In spite of this, it really was an excellent 3D presentation, with multiple pop-outs, and a strong sense of volume and depth even in quiet scenes. It also made excellent use of the Imax sound system which felt truly immense, and was particularly useful in conveying the planetary scale of Unicron.

I thought it had one of the most promising setups of any of these films. The human characters are well integrated into the storyline. They also seemed to have more robot characters than previous movies, but they all had distinct designs which avoided confusion.

I don't know if it's a good or a bad film or what kind of critical reaction it's getting. I thought it started strong and ended strong, but in the middle it felt like something wasn't quite clicking. Some of the plot developments were perhaps a bit convenient, a lot was far-fetched. I'm not convinced that should be considered a fatal flaw in a film of this nature. On the whole I found it a lot better than expected, if a mixed bag. It's more of a B-movie than previous entries in the series. No star actors or director, no ILM. I don't think they even went with one of the established 3D conversion houses. The visual effects did the job, but suffered at times. The cargo plane transformer might be the single worst case of unconvincing CGI in the series.

The cinema I saw it in had some really young and inexperienced staff on duty, and I had to correct the girl who'd given me a pair of Real D glasses, instead of the linear polarized Imax glasses required. Luckily I got to the screen before they'd dimmed the lights, because the people sitting next to me had also been given the wrong glasses. Before the screening started I must've sent somewhere between 10 and 20 people down to get their glasses changed. I hate doing this, I'm not that sort of outgoing person to go up to strangers like that. Not the first time it's happened either. Considering the cost of Imax tickets, that's just not good enough. It would really ruin the screening, and that doesn't help the case for 3D either.

But the 3D was definitely worth it. There was a nicely executed popout when one of the trucks fired a missile, and there was an effective-in-3D scene where Optimus Prime picks up the main human protagonist. Prime looked believably massive. Definitely no miniaturisation effect there. I had a visceral reaction in another scene when one of the antagonist bots swung a ball on a chain weapon towards the screen. There may have been a minor conversion error in one scene where light reflections on a Porshe ended up looking like scrapes but it didn't really matter. 3D was a major enhancement to the film in every way. I haven't seen the other films in years so it's hard to judge, but I felt it might be some of the best 3D of the series. It's 3D with impact.
Thanks for the helpful review, Interdimensional. That was nice of you to warn those people who were given the wrong types of 3D Glasses to exchange them for the Imax type 3D glasses. That happened to me one time too and I had to exchange it. The guy gave me Real D, and I thought they knew what they were doing but they didn't. You saved those people from disappointment, wondering why the 3D wouldn't be working.

Glad to hear the 3D delivers from the sound of it. Thanks.

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According to Cinemablend's review, it was done by DNeg. (And their review was a rare 35/35: I'm not generally a fan of their 3D reviews, particularly their peculiar scoring system, but they certainly make it sound like a 3D classic, for whatever that's worth.)
Cool, thanks. DNeg is formerly known as Prime Focus. I read that DNeg acquired Prime Focus. Prime Focus is responsible for the medium to strong 3D of the live-action Turtles Films, which are great conversions IMO.
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PFT, a subsidiary of DNEG’s parent company, Prime Focus Ltd., is based in Burbank and has offices across North America, the U.K. and India with 1,700 employees, including about 300 software engineers. After the deal, DNEG’s global headcount will grow to more than 11,500 across North America, Europe, Asia and Australia.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...x-1235371014/#!
Even the other big Conversion studio, Stereo D, is now known as SDFX Studios, to let filmmakers/producers probably know they have expanded beyond mostly 3D conversions and into special effects more often. Plus with the recent slow down of movie conversions since 2019 I'd say.
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Quick 3D Transformers Rise of the Beasts 3D Review:
Cinemark: Great contrast, brightness, 3D projection, mid row seat, just left of center. Great view, although it was one of the smaller theaters with a screen that only took up 50% of my view instead of 60% or more.

3D Layers: 6/10. Mostly a range of mild to low medium 3D layering, with some medium layers and few rare strong 3D shots. I took my glasses off to make sure the 3D was working and the screen often looked like a 2D movie that could many times be watched without 3D glasses, regarding the generally lite conversion work here. They probably had a smaller budget to convert the 3D with.
3D Pop Outs: A few pop outs, like when a character aims their gun out of the screen, and then some rubble flying, and some fire embers.
3D Framing: Pretty good framing for the 3D shots. No big issues IMO.
Favorite 3D shot: I think when Optimus Prime aimed his gun cannon at the screen to the right, the barrel sticking slightly out of the screen.
3D Summary: 6/10. I kept waiting to be "wow, that's strong 3D" but after a few initial opening outer space shots, the strong 3D vanished for most of the film, and instead, I noticed lots of underwhelming mild to low medium 3D shots, but thankfully some medium 3D shots in there too that made it slightly better. Just not enough medium or strong 3D to give it a better score in my view. This pales in comparison to other strong 3D conversion like Avengers Infinity War as a shining example of mostly strong 3D.

3D Rank IMO:
Transformers: Age of Extinction 3D
Transformers: Dark of the Moon 3D
Transformers: Last Knight 3D
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I saw this today and was disappointed with the 3D. Perhaps since I didn't see it on an Imax screen. Very few images popped and there wasn't much depth in almost any of the scenes.

The movie itself delivered with the effects. I would have enjoyed it more had there not been any people in it. For those that leave as soon as the credits start, stick around as there is a good cutscene.
Russweiss1, I feel the same way actually after seeing this at Cinemark, which is an awesome theater for 3D. The sound was excellent in the movie, with heavy bass, but the 3D underwhelming.
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Old 06-12-2023, 02:43 AM   #20
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Seems like mixed thoughts on the 3D. There have been times when I felt the 3D was very good in a film when others thought it was very bad.
Will just have to see how it goes for myself tomorrow.

Glad I get to check it out in IMAX 3D.
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