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Old 04-12-2023, 07:57 AM   #41
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Thought I'd have a bit more to say about this one... It occasionally has an issue where one eye's image is a bit darker than the other, causing some discomfort. Thankfully, these stints are always quite short. Otherwise, this film is a bit incomprehensible, though not unpleasant. I caught some threads of themes developing throughout, but, could not construe the overall image they were meant to convey. I'll definitely make use of the commentaries later.

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Old 04-12-2023, 12:22 PM   #42
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… It occasionally has an issue where one eye's image is a bit darker than the other, causing some discomfort. Thankfully, these stints are always quite short.
Agree. I notice this with native-shot scenes like in Dredd, where one eye shows a reflection and the other doesn’t. There are a handful of shots in Leda where the two eye views have different contrast. Not a lot, but it is definitely annoying.

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… I caught some threads of themes developing throughout, but, could not construe the overall image they were meant to convey. I'll definitely make use of the commentaries later.
It’s an art film for sure, so the plot certainly gets second billing to the visuals. The actual story is likely open to interpretation. Reminds me of the art films like Eraserhead we’d see at college festivals and then discuss into the night about how profound they were. The commentary helped a lot. I also don’t know anything about the Greek myth that it’s based on, although I found online that the whole Zeus/Leda/egg thing is a popular theme in ancient artwork.



I did enjoy how the director used 3D as art. Fade transitions can look bad in 3D, but he layered them so the shot being transitioned to fades in on a different plane than the previous shot. He used the same technique with some of the overlaid scenes, where each scene was playing in a different 3D space, which I thought was neat. Definitely experimental. Totally understand if others don’t like this film as much as I did.

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Old 04-13-2023, 01:30 AM   #43
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Kind of bizarre, but this is available on Vudu IN 3D for rent and sale ($4.99 and $16.99 US respectively). Very odd that this would show up there…
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Old 04-13-2023, 01:52 AM   #44
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Kind of bizarre, but this is available on Vudu IN 3D for rent and sale ($4.99 and $16.99 US respectively). Very odd that this would show up there…
So that just confirms that Vudu has no problem with supporting new 3D releases and the mainstream studios are just choosing to not spend a few minutes putting their 3D content for sale or rent digitally.

Well, in the US anyway. There is that lucrative Russian and Chinese VR streaming market

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Would be interesting to reach out to the filmmaker to find out exactly how much effort is actually involved when adding a 3D version to Vudu.

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Old 04-13-2023, 02:37 PM   #45
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Was thinking the same thing. I get it that pressing the discs, adding in the cases, and all the investment in producing physical copies turns people off from a small fan base such as ours but this really just seems like the companies are leaving money on the table - I for one would kill to get some titles any was I can legitimately and this would at least be a way to do that.
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Old 04-13-2023, 11:56 PM   #46
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My copy came on Tuesday and I watched it after work today with chicken fingers. So the bad first. I didn't like the movie at all and found it kind of boring. You should know the movie has 0 dialog and most of it is black and white. The story to the extent there is one I found difficult to follow, E.g. the plot summary says there was
[Show spoiler]a rape
but I never saw
[Show spoiler]a rape
so either it was very low key and implied or my mind was wondering when it happened. So as a movie I would never watch it again. I will say that is is very atmospheric and surreal and is definitely like an arthouse film so if you like those (I don't really) this might be your thing. The sound was on point, I liked that. And some scenes did have some very cool imagery.

As for the 3D, that is very very good. The majority of the film is medium strong and there are only a few times it goes medium or weak. It is all depth, I don't recall any popouts. However, the 3D works very well in this movie and with all of the surreal imagery. In some shots the depth in the scene was stunning and I had to pause to just look at it.

In contrast to the complete lack of dialog i nthe movie, I appreciated that the filmmaker gave commentary for all of the deleted, of which there are 26 minutes worth. (Although it sounds like most of them are from a completely different version of the movie they abandoned and rewrote it.) I also liked the stills gallery and his short film that is also on the disc (in 2D, with very minimal dialog).

The movie was not my thing but with the quality of the 3D and how well it works in this movie I would defintiely recommend this one, at least rent it on Vudu or something!
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Old 04-14-2023, 12:45 AM   #47
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My copy came on Tuesday and I watched it after work today with chicken fingers. So the bad first. I didn't like the movie at all and found it kind of boring. You should know the movie has 0 dialog and most of it is black and white. The story to the extent there is one I found difficult to follow, E.g. the plot summary says there was
[Show spoiler]a rape
but I never saw
[Show spoiler]a rape
so either it was very low key and implied or my mind was wondering when it happened. So as a movie I would never watch it again. I will say that is is very atmospheric and surreal and is definitely like an arthouse film so if you like those (I don't really) this might be your thing. The sound was on point, I liked that. And some scenes did have some very cool imagery.

As for the 3D, that is very very good. The majority of the film is medium strong and there are only a few times it goes medium or weak. It is all depth, I don't recall any popouts. However, the 3D works very well in this movie and with all of the surreal imagery. In some shots the depth in the scene was stunning and I had to pause to just look at it.

In contrast to the complete lack of dialog i nthe movie, I appreciated that the filmmaker gave commentary for all of the deleted, of which there are 26 minutes worth. (Although it sounds like most of them are from a completely different version of the movie they abandoned and rewrote it.) I also liked the stills gallery and his short film that is also on the disc (in 2D, with very minimal dialog).

The movie was not my thing but with the quality of the 3D and how well it works in this movie I would defintiely recommend this one, at least rent it on Vudu or something!
Helpful 3D review, thanks, EmailKing. Medium-strong 3D layering sounds good. No dialog in the film, that's interesting. Hopefully the score or sound effects help out.
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[Show spoiler]Chicken Fingers as a meal while watching. Have you tried Chicken Fries? They're shaped like fingers, available at grocery stores in the freezer section.
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Old 04-14-2023, 12:52 AM   #48
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I don't think I have lol.
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Old 04-14-2023, 12:58 AM   #49
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Got mine too. One of four titles that arrived yesterday and today.
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Kind of bizarre, but this is available on Vudu IN 3D for rent and sale ($4.99 and $16.99 US respectively). Very odd that this would show up there…
Thanks for the heads-up on this. Rented it there.

It's certainly very artsy, offering some striking B/W landscapes (reminiscent of a wall hanging), with some kaleidoscopic psychedelia tossed in and a detour down Eraserhead land in the home stretch.

Skillfully done and possibly a welcome fit for some collectors but I'm glad I was able to rent rather than buy because I wouldn't get multiple viewings out of this.
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Old 04-15-2023, 06:21 PM   #52
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Love hearing others’ take on Leda. Interesting how tastes in film can vary as much as food. And nobody’s wrong or right. Here’s what I think the plot is. If you haven’t seen it, you can come up with your own interpretation and not read this …
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Leda is a little girl being raised happily by her mother and father on some big country estate. Her mother dies of an illness, which changes everything. She begins to hallucinate about an ominous swan and an egg. Her father ends up getting killed later in a hunting accident, which pushes her into crazytown. She keeps having visions of an evil swan and an egg whenever she’s near water. She somehow gets pregnant and a female cousin visits to attend to her. She believes she was raped by a swan at a lake on the estate where she swims nude. (This is the legend of Zeus impregnating Leda in the form of a swan.) So she kills the swan and buries it, only to dig it up later and uncover the face of her father. Now fully insane, she wraps up the dead swan and takes it to her bedroom. She gives birth to a baby on a staircase, not knowing what’s happening, and ends up stabbing the cousin to death in a psychotic frenzy. Sooo …

Was she raped while swimming at the lake by her father? Or by another man we see at the estate who seems to have a romantic interest in her? Was she watching a swan on the lake while being attacked? (The attack itself is represented by the psychedelic 3D kaleidoscope scene). When she digs up the swan’s body, why does she see her father’s face? Does this just represent a repulsion to all men, like when Catherine Deneuve goes crazy in Polanski’s Repulsion?

The film hops around between past (2D with a blurry vignette), present (2D with clarity) and Leda’s mind (3D), but when it’s all put in order, that seems to be the story - at least in my mind!


Like this kind of artsy stuff or hate it, the movie has some really cool 3D imho.
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Just finished watching it. Beautifully shot and the 3D was excellent IMO. Just couldn't get into the story but will definitely research the origins to understand it better.

It was shot near me so I need to figure out exactly where now.

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Found it necessary to read up about the character in Greek mythology and now I have a better understanding of the narrative behind this art house type film. Suggest others do the same to make sense of what was shown on the screen. Surprised some of my hunches were correct.

The 3D was inconsistent. Quite often depth was noticeably mild yet other times the spatial layering was quite strong. But this isn't a bad thing. Believe it was intentional and creative to place more emphasis on significant dramatic moments. It works well in black and white.

First finding the film either over my head or just overbearing, understanding of the mythology regarding Leda allows me in retrospect to appreciate what could be referred to as "experimental" cinema.

Might not be for everybody so recommended but with discretion.
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I find Elsinore's breakdown as good as any possible explanation, and he includes questions about the enigmatic events.

At first, I was confused about the intent of the film, but later reading of the centuries-old visitations by artists intrigued with the Greek myth makes it clear that this is another rendering in a new medium to add to the fold.

The comparison to REPULSION makes sense; fans of that film should easily see the similarities and appreciate it. I suspect viewers who care more about story than style are not likely to enjoy LEDA.

I admit that it's taken some meditation on the images now lodged in my brain for me to say that I actually like the movie. I'm surprised to say that I do, honestly. It's strange how the mind can change when a little study is added to the initial viewing.
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Was she raped while swimming at the lake by her father?
So basically, a friendly 3D movie that the whole family can enjoy.
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So basically, a friendly 3D movie that the whole family can enjoy.
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Hi Elsinore

Read your hypothesis and found it very interesting. But I'm not sure if the intent was expressionistic to evoke individual moods or ideas as it was to create a specific mental image which would be difficult to understand for those not familiar with the story of Leda in Greek mythology. That's how it was for me. After reading up on it, everything then fell into place.

But again loved your analogy. Get it copywrited, then published and then follow up with a sequel!
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LOL Joe: I think I should have been more clear in my initial review when I said the movie was accessible and could be enjoyed by anyone. I should have said by anyone into arthouse films. Because it’s definitely an art film. I was comparing it to stuff like Eraserhead, which I’m not sure even has a plot, but art film fans loved anyway. Some other art films have left me totally baffled and bored, but I found this one compelling. (To be honest, I didn’t think anyone not into art films would even read the thread, but I forgot that us 3D fans will watch anything 3D.)

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Well, it is unrated by the MPA, so I guess you're right.
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